The Willow Ranch in Lacota

The Willow Ranch in Lacota

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Jimmy Valentine

Vernon Hills, IL

#2 Sep 15, 2010
Here is the link for the wikipedia stats on the community where the Willow Ranch is at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Township,...

There were 1,403 households out of which 37.0% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 56.1% were married couples living together, 11.9% had a female householder with no husband present, and 26.7% were non-families. 21.7% of all households were made up of individuals and 7.8% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.77 and the average family size was 3.20.

In the township the population was spread out with 29.6% under the age of 18, 9.0% from 18 to 24, 28.2% from 25 to 44, 21.5% from 45 to 64, and 11.6% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 35 years. For every 100 females there were 100.1 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 94.6 males.

The median income for a household in the township was $34,900, and the median income for a family was $38,125. Males had a median income of $35,712 versus $21,599 for females. The per capita income for the township was $16,499. About 7.9% of families and 10.4% of the population were below the poverty line, including 6.2% of those under age 18 and 17.9% of those age 65 or over.

Can Lacota really afford to NOT have the Willow Ranch?

I Love the Willow Ranch and the local community Janie and I were planning on moving out there to get away from the nonsense of the city. Now that we see something like this happening, which is really an injustice and a witch hunt, we are having second thoughts. This is wrong and the people of Lee township and Lacota Michigan should be thankful for one of the biggest factors currently diminishing the current economic crisis the rest of the country is feeling. It's simple economics. Perhaps this is not the progressive and forward thinking community we thought is was.

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TABITHA R

Chicago, IL

#3 Sep 15, 2010
THIS IS THE MOST PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO SILENCE AN OTHERWISE PEACEFUL LOCATION IN THE COUNTRY THAT ALLOWS SO MANY TO SHARE IN ITS BOUNDLESS BEAUTY AND TRANQUILITY. MY TIMES AT THE WILLOW RANCH HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT POSITIVE. THIS PLACE CHANGED MY WHOLE LIFE. BIM WILLOW IS A MAN OF PEACE AND VIRTUE. HE WOULD NEVER PROMOTE VIOLENCE OR CONDONE IT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. THESE FESTIVALS ARE MEANT TO BE A PEACEFUL WEEKEND RETREAT FILLED WITH MUSIC AND LOVE FOR ALL WHO ATTEND. IN THE YEARS THAT I HAVE ATTENDED THERE WAS NEVER ANY VIOLENCE AT THE EVENTS THAT COULDNT BE CONTROLLED, AND AS FAR AS THE HOME INVADER THERE IS NO PROOF THAT HE WAS A GUEST AT THE RANCH. EVERYONE GOES THERE KNOWING ITS A PLACE OF PEACE AND LOVE. WILLOW RANCH MUST REMAIN OPEN FOR THOSE PEACEFUL SOULS THAT ARE STUCK IN THE WORLD AND NEED SOME ESCAPE FROM TIME TO TIME... HELP SAVE THE WILLOW RANCH!!!!!!
Lauren

Pinckney, MI

#4 Sep 15, 2010
Being a new willow family member, I am sad to hear about this. It upsets me that the gatherings must be shut down due to the bad decisions of a few. The willow ranch is such an amazing place. I came up to Compassion Fest all by myself, and was immediately given a big hug and a plate for dinner. I left knowing many people who I still keep in touch with and hang out with on a regular basis. The ranch allows people with similar interests to gather and be peaceful. I understand the noise complaints, and from what i've read and understand, the ranch is willing to comprimise by ending music much earlier. The violense does not make any sense, and there was no proof of those people came from the ranch. The willow family has accepted me whole heartedly for who I am, and I am extremely blessed to be apart of the family.
shdweller

Grayling, MI

#5 Sep 15, 2010
actually, if you read the police report, you will see that the kid who was charged with breaking and entering specifically stated he was at Willow Ranch the night before. The Rave ended at 5 am, the violence started at 6 am. He was also tested positively for PCP.
Raves til 5 am with non stop music is not being considerate of the neighbourhood. There are many other incidents that are in the police reports of kids coming off the property and going onto other peoples' property.
If Mr Willow had continued to merely hold a peace fest and shut it down at 10 pm, there would have been no issue with the neighbours.
You did not see the blood all over the walls of these people's homes, nor the terror of the families who went thru this violent act.
People are literally living with loaded shotguns under their bed now.
I hope Mr Willow continues his peacefest, and only that, and behaves in a more considerate and mannerly way to his neighbours. Stop the music at 10 pm, no more Raves, and hire local off duty cops to ensure security.
Bim Willow

Saline, MI

#6 Sep 15, 2010
The kid lived in the neigborhood and is listed on the sex offenders list for allegan county yes one of our neigbors!
The problem is outside the gates of the willow ranch that now will be closed.
The Willow Ranch event center is closed as of 9/15/10 till further notice.
Audi Jensen

Mundelein, IL

#7 Sep 16, 2010
As stated by Bim,the perpitrator of this crime lives locally in the area of the Ranch,can the Ranch be dirrectly held responsible for the actions of ones choices? This seems to be a case of a bad apple who seems to have a history of bad choices.This person should be held accountable for his actions rather than being used as an excuse to close a Peaceful venue.I cannot imagine the horror of the victims involved with the crime this man committed and how they continue to suffer because of his choices and my prayers definately go out to them. It is my hope that Mr.Willow can continue to work with nieghbors and local authorities so that the arts,music and fellowship can continue. I have never been to the Willow Ranch,but planned one day to visit ,it is my understanding it is quite beautiful there and a welcomming atmosphere for children.The idea that people are sleeping with loaded shotguns beneath thier beds is upsetting for anyone to hear much less live with.I think as a community that has this beautiful Ranch that Mr.Willow has worked so hard on should come together and find a way to benefit from each other and in the end you might just find that this is a really neat cultural asset to have in your community. Together good things can happen.
shdweller

Grayling, MI

#8 Sep 16, 2010
Audi Jensen wrote:
As stated by Bim,the perpitrator of this crime lives locally in the area of the Ranch,can the Ranch be dirrectly held responsible for the actions of ones choices? This seems to be a case of a bad apple who seems to have a history of bad choices.This person should be held accountable for his actions rather than being used as an excuse to close a Peaceful venue.I cannot imagine the horror of the victims involved with the crime this man committed and how they continue to suffer because of his choices and my prayers definately go out to them. It is my hope that Mr.Willow can continue to work with nieghbors and local authorities so that the arts,music and fellowship can continue. I have never been to the Willow Ranch,but planned one day to visit ,it is my understanding it is quite beautiful there and a welcomming atmosphere for children.The idea that people are sleeping with loaded shotguns beneath thier beds is upsetting for anyone to hear much less live with.I think as a community that has this beautiful Ranch that Mr.Willow has worked so hard on should come together and find a way to benefit from each other and in the end you might just find that this is a really neat cultural asset to have in your community. Together good things can happen.
again, when it was just a peacefest til 10 pm, the neighbours had no problem. the other incidents that have occured besides this one violent act, of people wandering onto other people's property, smashing in car windows, throwing things, car accidents of people arrested after coming out of the ranch (ask the allegan county sheriff this is in their reports)means that the place has morphed out of control. of course, the noise was unbearable to the neighbours also. The kid in question, again, stated he had come from willow ranch an hour earlier, and he was full of PCP. this was from the Rave, not the peacefest.
I dont think Raves attract the same kind of people as peacefests do.
I have complete faith in the maturity and wisdom of all involved that this can be resolved in a peaceful manner.
Freedom Fighter

United States

#9 Sep 16, 2010
I agree that raves attract a total diffrent crowd. Having the music end at ten is just silly,its not even dark at ten in the summer! Oh, I am sure members that attend the compassion fest would just Love to see Police officers walking around, give me a break, and get real!
I can see it now Police officers throwing handicapped people to the ground for medicating...
Meg

Oxford, MI

#10 Sep 16, 2010
The willow ranch is not a venue nor is it something that the government can take away from us. We go for the music and the people, we are not there for drugs and we are not there to cause anarchy. Now we see the truth one bad apple can spoil it for everyone. But what i don't understand is that if there is a violent crime committed and it connects to the ranch, they can shut it down. but what about if there is a violent crime from a local bar, will they shut the bar down. what if there is a fight in a parking lot and they had just left the wall-mart, are they going to shut the wall-mart down. lets say someone broke in and entered someone property and they said they were at a friends house the night before and they tested positive for PCP would the police raid his friends house and shut them down taking all their valuables and memories. I think not. Nobody is the same, we are all different in many ways and if you compare the alleged violent acts with the loving and caring acts you will see that more than most of the people attending these events are here reuniting with friends and sharing a common interest of music not to cause problems and take away the dreams of a man who has put his heart and soul into this for his friends and family. Judging the whole group of people by one person is almost as bad as taking a survey with only 2 people. the probability of everyone being violent drug addicts traveling from near and far to terrorize family and children of the grand junction is highly unlikely. i everyone who is part of shutting down the ranch thinks of what they are doing. Not only are they taking away someone dream, but they are ruining vacations that family's plan with their children, money which goes into the economy and memories that will never be able to be made anywhere else. Sleep on this thought - if you were a fellow camper that spent dinners at the local big boy, bought groceries at the wall-mart, breakfast at the mcdonalds and gas at your gas station would you appreciate the the town you help support and grown shutting down your summer?
nicole

Oxford, MI

#11 Sep 16, 2010
my first summer at the ranch and i guess it will be my last. I met so many loving and caring people there and i felt at home with the workers and the security. It was family for me... The great outdoors, the good weather, and the positive vibes. everyone worked together and allot of people helped volunteer without being asked. The willow ranch was too good to be true, it was a place to take the kids for the weekend and it was a place to meet old buddies from college and have a little drink by the campfire. It was a place to meet new people and explore the music culture from all angles. The willow ranch will never die, you can tell them to take the sign down and you can tell them to shut the music down at 6pm. But no matter how hard you try, you will never be abled to take away our memories. we will always remember the ranch as a place that accepted all people, accepted all music, accepted anyone who had every felt unaccepted. It was my oasis and now it is a mere memory that is soon to fade with the rest. A town trying to rid an event that brings prosperity to the business is like a grocery store not letting costumers into buy goods. The stupidity it to immense to describe, but next summer when you see business revenue decrease just know we did what we could to help.
ross

Oxford, MI

#12 Sep 16, 2010
can we not enjoy electronic music without being accused of taking PCP. well guys i guess electronic music can only be played in homes.

quick question if someone came from a concert in a drunken violent rage would they shut their venue down? or would they punish the person who committed the crime. since it wasn't in the same vicinity as the concert?

its a good question to ponder
kayde

Oxford, MI

#13 Sep 16, 2010
if that kid lives in the area. he has probably taken pcp before and most likely walked on other peoples property before, but because it was on the same night as the festival it call for reason to shut it down. I hope you realize removing the ranch wont do anything, this kid lives on your street and buys drugs from your neighbors. He will find another music event to go to and come back and doit again. keep in mind, this was one person who obviously has mental problems and isn't getting very far with his life. by punishing a business because it doesn't turn away costumers is illegal. we are not supposed to discriminate and we are not supposed to judge, how were we to know he was a psychopath.
shdweller

Grayling, MI

#14 Sep 16, 2010
the local bars in this area are not allowed to serve alcohol to people already deemed intoxicated. If a person is too intoxicated to drive, and the local bar owner knows it, he will be held responsible if that person gets into an accident.
This place is a business, and has to be held accountable for the people who buy tickets and how they leave the place. I know it used to just be a party, but if it calls itself a business, and at 40 bucks a head with 1200 people , you do the math, they can afford ex cop security guards like they have at Rothbury, where NO drugs are allowed on the premises, and the people are kicked out if they are found with them.
That is a simple solution.
shdweller

Grayling, MI

#15 Sep 16, 2010
Freedom Fighter wrote:
I agree that raves attract a total diffrent crowd. Having the music end at ten is just silly,its not even dark at ten in the summer! Oh, I am sure members that attend the compassion fest would just Love to see Police officers walking around, give me a break, and get real!
I can see it now Police officers throwing handicapped people to the ground for medicating...
having the music end at 10 is polite. many people in the neighbourhood have to actually work at jobs and need sleep, as do their children.
shdweller

Grayling, MI

#16 Sep 16, 2010
kayde wrote:
if that kid lives in the area. he has probably taken pcp before and most likely walked on other peoples property before, but because it was on the same night as the festival it call for reason to shut it down. I hope you realize removing the ranch wont do anything, this kid lives on your street and buys drugs from your neighbors. He will find another music event to go to and come back and doit again. keep in mind, this was one person who obviously has mental problems and isn't getting very far with his life. by punishing a business because it doesn't turn away costumers is illegal. we are not supposed to discriminate and we are not supposed to judge, how were we to know he was a psychopath.
actually, the allegan county police report states he was at willow ranch that night, and he attested to it.
He should not have even been allowed on the grounds if he had PCP with him, and should have had a body search and been thrown out.
Perhaps the business was shut down due to code violations or lack of permits, also. That is a huge possibility.
Mitch

Jackson, MI

#17 Sep 16, 2010
shdweller sounds like a willow ranch hater too me.
Why don't you make better use of your time?

Perhaps The willow ranch was closed down due too narkish fat mouth people like you who cant mind there own business in life. Crack a cold beer and have a good time for once i promise it wont kill you.

Smells like bacon in this bitch.

I hate Pigs

Mitch
shdweller

Grayling, MI

#18 Sep 17, 2010
dear mitch:

nice way to win people's hearts and minds, dude.
very 'peaceful' of you.
namaste
hate is not 'peace'.
peace
out
bim willow

Greenville, MI

#19 Sep 17, 2010
The willow ranch event center is closed that does not mean the willow family has gone away.
I shut the willow ranch down because I did not like what happened either. There was no evidence that that person was at the willow only the testimony of a crazy person who upon suggestion could say anything. If this person would have come to the gate out of hand we would have called the police. And no we do not strip search anyone. Did this person have an armband on to prove him as at the ranch?. Second the willow ranch does not tolerate such drugs and did what we could to prevent the sale or distributing of such drugs. Blaming this man’s acts on the willow ranch is simply scapegoating

When I read in the paper that some of my neighbors or willing to take the law into their own hands it now appears my family is under threat. Time to stop the madness.
Mitch

Jackson, MI

#20 Sep 17, 2010
dweller i'm not trying to win over anyones hearts, especially yours.
and as far as hating yes i should take my own advice and stop hating. It's easier said than done in todays chaotic roach infested world.
I am trying to not hate anymore and love, the willow ranch had made me a better person each time i attended towards this achievement.

Then situations like this come along and my anger fuels into a substance mixed with hate.
I don't know who too point fingers at, and don't wanna play the blame game.
I just hope that all works out for bim and his family

God bless you all,
even you dirty cockroaches

Mitch
Jimmy Valentine

Vernon Hills, IL

#21 Sep 17, 2010
shdweller wrote:
the local bars in this area are not allowed to serve alcohol to people already deemed intoxicated. If a person is too intoxicated to drive, and the local bar owner knows it, he will be held responsible if that person gets into an accident.
This place is a business, and has to be held accountable for the people who buy tickets and how they leave the place. I know it used to just be a party, but if it calls itself a business, and at 40 bucks a head with 1200 people , you do the math, they can afford ex cop security guards like they have at Rothbury, where NO drugs are allowed on the premises, and the people are kicked out if they are found with them.
That is a simple solution.
Are you kidding? No drugs at Rothburry?

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