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Larry

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#22
Jan 12, 2011
 
Ig Graves doesn't like hate speech, all he has to do is look in a mirror.

The Left is so bitter about losing the election they are throwing a temper tantrum. And as Rahm Emmanuel said: "Never let a good crisis go to waste".

Now they even want the Fairness Doctrine back. So let's see what happened when we DID have that wonderful document and there was no Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, or Oreilly.

Let's see now. Oh yeah! John F Kennedy was assassinated. Robert F kennedy was murdered. Martin Luther King was assassinated. There were two attempts on President Ford. Ronald Reagan was shot.
Yeah, the fairness Doctrine is a sure way to stop the violence!
Bruce

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#23
Jan 12, 2011
 
TruthTeller wrote:
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the shooter was an admirer of palin and the right wing.
Show me something that says he was an admirer of Palin except maybe by some leftwinger I don't consider as proof unless he can back it. And everything I have read from people that knew him he leaned left but shooting can't be blamed on that either. He was a mentally disturbed man and it had nothing to do with politics.

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#24
Jan 12, 2011
 
Reading some of these posts it's not just are politicians that need to grow up and realize we are all in this together. All the crazy/hateful talk, all the name calling that has taken over this country isn't unique to just one political party, we are all to blame. We all allow it when we only call out those from the other side. Until we all realize that there are those on both sides of the aisle who have good ideas and are willing to have good honest and grown up debates, we are not going to get very far. And let's not forget, even though we have freedom of speech (and I'm glad we do and thank all those who have fought and died to protect it) it, like everything else does not come without consequences.
Concerned

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#25
Jan 12, 2011
 
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The shooter was a right wing kook who loved Paulin. Start cheking your facts right winger.
This is not "right wing" by any stretch of the imagination:

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/201...

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/jared-lee-loug...
Bob Lieber

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#26
Jan 12, 2011
 
Reality Check wrote:
So when he goes after rich arrogant blowhards he is being mean and bitter? Now that IS funny. Just shows he knows how to hit them where it hurts. Boo hoo, Glenn and Sarah. Poor you.
Oh yes, he is bitter and angry about everything other than old movies. He has nothing positive to say even when there are positives there. And the bottom line is: there is plenty of blame to go around, it's just that in poor Alden's world, it only goes one way. I actually agree with man y of his positions, but he loses credibility becuase he communicates them through personal attacks, whihc are not justified. Issues are one thing; people are another. Don't feel sorry for me; feel sorry for Alden. That's what I do.
Concerned

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#27
Jan 13, 2011
 
TruthTeller wrote:
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The shooter was a right wing kook who loved Paulin. Start cheking your facts right winger.
Start checking your facts this unbalance, very sick individual was targeting Gabby long before Palin etc. Seems even the president does not agree with you listen to his speech. When one reads all your post in variouse threads, you look like you have quite a bit in common with Jared. You can't not write anything without name calling and insulting those that do not agree or not in lock step with your way of thinking.
Rakim Allah

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#28
Jan 14, 2011
 
If the New England Newspaper and Press Association has a "Most Ironic Column" award Mr. Graves just clinched it.

Since: Jan 09

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#29
Jan 14, 2011
 
Let me ask about your saying the "Gov Brewer public display of sympathy" How does this compare with the Democrats "Let no crisis go to wast" You know like turning the memorial into a Obama campain pep rally?
wahhhhhh

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Jan 14, 2011
 
j w mcsherry wrote:
Let me ask about your saying the "Gov Brewer public display of sympathy" How does this compare with the Democrats "Let no crisis go to wast" You know like turning the memorial into a Obama campain pep rally?
Nice of Boehner to show up. I guess that fund raiser was too important.

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Jan 14, 2011
 

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Nice of Boehner to show up. I guess that fund raiser was too important.
He might have felt he would have been booed. Or being a Republican he should not got to a Democrat campain function. Say what you will but it showed Obamas strong point. If his teleprompter is working he gives a good speech. But if people go off script as with cheering him at a time in poor taste because his teleprompter is not set up for this he does not know what to do.

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#32
Jan 14, 2011
 
Who was responsible for security at the event? Any liberal care to answer?
wahhhhhh

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Jan 14, 2011
 
j w mcsherry wrote:
<quoted text>He might have felt he would have been booed. Or being a Republican he should not got to a Democrat campain function. Say what you will but it showed Obamas strong point. If his teleprompter is working he gives a good speech. But if people go off script as with cheering him at a time in poor taste because his teleprompter is not set up for this he does not know what to do.
And if Obama didn't do anything or speak at the service, you would have bashed him for that.

Not to mention there were plenty of repubs at the service including McCain.

And get over the teleprompter, the man is using technology available to him. What do you want him to take a horse and buggy across town on his way to the stagecoach?

Your hatred for Obama makes you look like a fool. He can't do anything right by you can he? Even Fox News was giving him credit for a good speech.
Concerned

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Jan 14, 2011
 
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And if Obama didn't do anything or speak at the service, you would have bashed him for that.
Not to mention there were plenty of repubs at the service including McCain.
And get over the teleprompter, the man is using technology available to him. What do you want him to take a horse and buggy across town on his way to the stagecoach?
Your hatred for Obama makes you look like a fool. He can't do anything right by you can he? Even Fox News was giving him credit for a good speech.
Thought not an Obama Fan,I agree the speech was a decent one and he made some valid and vital points.
From the speech:
But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized -- at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do -- it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.”
“For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man's mind.“
“But what we can't do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.“
“it also forces us to look forward, to reflect on the present and the future, on the manner in which we live our lives and nurture our relationships with those who are still with us. We may ask ourselves if we've shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we are doing right by our children, or our community, and whether our priorities are in order. We recognize our own mortality, and are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -- but rather, how well we have loved, and what small part we have played in bettering the lives of others.”
wahhhhhh

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Jan 14, 2011
 
Concerned wrote:
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Thought not an Obama Fan,I agree the speech was a decent one and he made some valid and vital points.
From the speech:
But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized -- at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do -- it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.”
“For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man's mind.“
“But what we can't do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.“
“it also forces us to look forward, to reflect on the present and the future, on the manner in which we live our lives and nurture our relationships with those who are still with us. We may ask ourselves if we've shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we are doing right by our children, or our community, and whether our priorities are in order. We recognize our own mortality, and are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -- but rather, how well we have loved, and what small part we have played in bettering the lives of others.”
Agreed, but when some dope calls it a Democratic pep rally like McSherry did and thinks it's all about political games, I'm gonna respond.

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#37
Jan 14, 2011
 
wahhhhhh wrote:
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And if Obama didn't do anything or speak at the service, you would have bashed him for that.
Not to mention there were plenty of repubs at the service including McCain.
And get over the teleprompter, the man is using technology available to him. What do you want him to take a horse and buggy across town on his way to the stagecoach?
Your hatred for Obama makes you look like a fool. He can't do anything right by you can he? Even Fox News was giving him credit for a good speech.
I take offence at you saying "your hatred for Obama" I hate no one. As for his use of the teleprompter did you notice when people started cheering him it looked at a loss for something to say. I just ask is that because it was not in the teleprompter for him to read. I ask questions. Like unemployment over 9% starting in may 2009. Average work week at all time low. In Afghanistian more Americans killed in two years under Obama than 8 years under Bush. Debt going up 3 times as fast under Obama than Bush. I give Obama credit for what is happening in America. So please tell me how is high unemployment short work week increasced death total increased debt good. It must be you keep telling me how great Obama is doing

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#38
Jan 14, 2011
 
wahhhhhh wrote:
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Agreed, but when some dope calls it a Democratic pep rally like McSherry did and thinks it's all about political games, I'm gonna respond.
Don't let McNutt get to you....
He hasn't been himself every since someone hide his Sarah Palin
swimsuit poster...

Here ya go McNutt... Have the misses run this over to Kinko's
and have it enlarged.....

http://fooyoh.com/iamchiq_living_lifestyle/36...

Since: Jan 09

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Jan 14, 2011
 

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Don't let McNutt get to you....
He hasn't been himself every since someone hide his Sarah Palin
swimsuit poster...
Here ya go McNutt... Have the misses run this over to Kinko's
and have it enlarged.....
http://fooyoh.com/iamchiq_living_lifestyle/36...
I am myself. Right on point to show Ultra/Liberal/Democrat don't have any point to make. Good indifferent or poor. All they can do is go for childish name calling. Now try to answer the record for Obama? Higher unemployment than Bush. Higher numbers killed in Afghanistian. Higher rate of increase in National Debt. Which of theseis his greatest success??
Concerned

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#40
Jan 14, 2011
 
Here is a little something from Fact Check.org , I found intersting. One article on GOP and one on Reid. They point out the misinformation that both have put forth.

http://factcheck.org/2011/01/a-job-killing-la...

http://factcheck.org/2011/01/reid-wrong-on-jo...
toadstool

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#41
Jan 15, 2011
 
Gun owners have to answer one simple question.
Do you believe that the deaths of thousands of men, women and children every year from gunfire is an acceptable price to pay for your right to own a gun?
ricochet rabbit

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#42
Jan 15, 2011
 
toadstool wrote:
Gun owners have to answer one simple question.
Do you believe that the deaths of thousands of men, women and children every year from gunfire is an acceptable price to pay for your right to own a gun?
yes.

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