Toyota pay cut
Shut up

Georgetown, KY

#104 Feb 16, 2013
Lucky wrote:
It's more help than you'll ever give your broke dumb and stupid you can't fix that
Maybe put some comma's and periods in that last sentence to where one might understand what you're trying to say. Then I may take offense, if thats what you're trying to achieve.
Lucky

United States

#105 Feb 17, 2013
Sniff sniff you and your alter ego are the only ones reading this fact of the matter is you are not worth the time added to correct the spelling or punctuation marks you should be in bed go to bed little boy you've got some growing to do
Fellow worker

United States

#106 Feb 17, 2013
Smile its your future wrote:
"dumbies" says he's "sure" that bonuses will improve with the profits of Toyota. Wake up. If you actually worked at TMMK, you'd know that the bonuses are a thing of the past. These are not "scare tactics" in any way shape or form. If you deny that this is Toyotas future for its employees then you have slipped into a coma. That 8% paycut coming to powertrain and plastics, I just heard that tonight.
Maybe we should just blow that rumor off too and say "that'll never happen to me" until you wake up one day and have a special meeting at the start of shift...uh oh, I'm getting a paycut! And there's nothing you're gonna be able to do about it. Do you hear that sound? It's the sound of inevitability... Wouldn't it have been nice to have a contract stating what your compensation is going to be for working for them? No set ups where you come into work one day and find out you're going to lose 1/5th of your pay and twist it to make you think you asked for it!?!
Nobody rioted this paycut of fellow team members so guess what? The rest of you just gave them the "go-ahead" the "green light" to do it to the rest of us because why? Because we're not going to do a thing about it. We're sheep...SHEEP!
The union haters can sit there and continue to run their mouths about how Toyota employees who want a voice are nothing short of a bunch of cry babies that are ungrateful for this great job they have. I'm grateful for this job I have been given but at the same time, could someone take this knife out of my back?
It's tyranny. They have absolute power and they'll do to us as they wish. If you're under the impression that Toyota has a heart and they care about you...you're delusional. We're their PAWNS, expendable, every single one of us at any given moment. Broke down like a shotgun with their repetitive manufacturing set up and they have you trained to think what they decide to pay you is actually too much and how dare you ever question them. How dare you speak of trying to organize in an effort to gain a voice for yourself. How dare you ...HOW DARE YOU, you ignorant, under educated people, how dare you question TOYOTA about how they run their business. Get back to your friggin' job, do it exactly how we tell you and shut your friggin' mouth. Keep putting on more parts per process than any other automotive manufacturing facility in the United States...17% more parts per process. Did you just stop the line!?! How dare you! Don't ever stop this line! EVER!
Now go ahead haters...pick my words apart...twist them just like Toyota does to make your lie seem like truth. When it comes to getting organized...I'm in no way thinking of myself, I'm thinking of all of us. We all work in this building for years, decades! We're headed to the end of our Toyota work life and we're gonna get there and have nothing to show for it. Your body is broken, unable to get another job and you'll die broke. It's your life spend it as you wish. I value my life and my health and if my employer takes an excessive amount of it just to produce their product...I expect compensation for it. Because, once it's gone, you'll never get it back.
This is your one chance...find your voice and change your life. This isn't a scare tactic or a threat...it's a promise.
Great post! But most people's hands are tied behind their back. It's sad
The TIE Party

Tucker, GA

#107 Feb 18, 2013
True opportunities are rare. They don't show up on pretty sunny days or when your checking account is in the black. They show up when you least expect it or maybe when you need them the most. It's always a choice. It's an informed decision. For others, it's an uneducated decision. If you knew the true purpose of having a voice in your workplace then you'd understand why it exist. But the ones against a voice will always be the ones who'll never research the idea or look at it from the opposite point of view from their own. Their point of view that keeps them slaving away and brainwashed into thinking that this is the best they can do. It is sad but its always a choice.
Lucky

United States

#108 Feb 19, 2013
The TIE Party wrote:
True opportunities are rare. They don't show up on pretty sunny days or when your checking account is in the black. They show up when you least expect it or maybe when you need them the most. It's always a choice. It's an informed decision. For others, it's an uneducated decision. If you knew the true purpose of having a voice in your workplace then you'd understand why it exist. But the ones against a voice will always be the ones who'll never research the idea or look at it from the opposite point of view from their own. Their point of view that keeps them slaving away and brainwashed into thinking that this is the best they can do. It is sad but its always a choice.
Best to stay out if debt invest in yourself then teach others how to do the same thing.Take care of themselves then they should teach others how they were taught. This way each individual has the equal chance to become self sufficient. Yes get the highest wages possible but protect yourself by learning how to make money and teach others to do the same.
Lol

Georgetown, KY

#109 Feb 19, 2013
Lucky wrote:
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Best to stay out if debt invest in yourself then teach others how to do the same thing.Take care of themselves then they should teach others how they were taught. This way each individual has the equal chance to become self sufficient. Yes get the highest wages possible but protect yourself by learning how to make money and teach others to do the same.
sweet baby jesus. Stick your Dave Ramsey book up up your ass!!
Lucky

Lexington, KY

#111 Feb 19, 2013
Poor bitter boy get to work your self esteem will be a lot higher for it.
Lucky

Lexington, KY

#112 Feb 19, 2013
Lol wrote:
<quoted text>sweet baby jesus. Stick your Dave Ramsey book up up your ass!!

So are you the head if the local communist party?
lol

United States

#113 Feb 19, 2013
Lucky wrote:
<quoted text>So are you the head if the local communist party?
i believe the communist parties' foundation is that one man (or entity) is smarter than the little people and therefore he decides how much someone is worth. all the small man should do is work and keep quite. im sure you know all about this theory since its all you preach
Lucky

Lexington, KY

#114 Feb 19, 2013
Your so stupid you haven't read a thing I've said then.your the one that preaches the communist system. I am a strong advocate of each person being responsible for there own out come and helping others achieve the same and more than me, which many have. In fact I have helped over 40 for a fact move on their way to a very relaxed worry free retirement. Many were not saving not investing. They were on the road to ruin screwing up the biggest vacation they will ever have retirement. Now over 50% of them are home free and will have assets over $1 million when they retire. They did it not me I just pointed them in the right direction. In fact two people have far surpassed me in there asset building. Why because they are far better at it than I am. They were mathematically intelligent which helps a great deal in planning and forecasting.
Lol

Georgetown, KY

#115 Feb 19, 2013
Lucky wrote:
Your so stupid you haven't read a thing I've said then.your the one that preaches the communist system. I am a strong advocate of each person being responsible for there own out come and helping others achieve the same and more than me, which many have. In fact I have helped over 40 for a fact move on their way to a very relaxed worry free retirement. Many were not saving not investing. They were on the road to ruin screwing up the biggest vacation they will ever have retirement. Now over 50% of them are home free and will have assets over $1 million when they retire. They did it not me I just pointed them in the right direction. In fact two people have far surpassed me in there asset building. Why because they are far better at it than I am. They were mathematically intelligent which helps a great deal in planning and forecasting.
Lmfao. I apologize for degrading you and calling you Dave Ramsey . You're fricken jesus Christ man! You just spoke the words "save your money" and these poor souls that were meant for a life of hell seen the light. Where did you learn such great words? "save money and invest wisely"!!!! That's amazing that you figured that out for humanity and even more amazing that you were kind enough to tell others about it. If it wasn't for you and Dave Ramsey...... Bless you my friend. P.s...it's "YOU'RE" so stupid. Lmfao
Lucky

Lexington, KY

#116 Feb 20, 2013
Your obviously broke and blame the world for it . It shows again and again that you have failed and want to blame everyone else for your problems. Your filled with so much hate and contempt for yourself you take it out by trying to discourage others. In this way you think you are elevating yourself. It's the classic signs of a person with very low self esteem and self pity . Go seek professional help with your problems. Remember it's ok for you to have a good cry. It may help release you enough from your self hate and pity for you to take the next step. That's seeking a professional mental counseler. Please help yourself!
Lol

Georgetown, KY

#117 Feb 20, 2013
Lucky wrote:
Your obviously broke and blame the world for it . It shows again and again that you have failed and want to blame everyone else for your problems. Your filled with so much hate and contempt for yourself you take it out by trying to discourage others. In this way you think you are elevating yourself. It's the classic signs of a person with very low self esteem and self pity . Go seek professional help with your problems. Remember it's ok for you to have a good cry. It may help release you enough from your self hate and pity for you to take the next step. That's seeking a professional mental counseler. Please help yourself!
Behold! More prophetic words from the great prophet of topix. And we just thought you were a financial guru.
Lucky

United States

#118 Feb 20, 2013
Lol wrote:
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Behold! More prophetic words from the great prophet of topix. And we just thought you were a financial guru.
hey I just give out good solid advice. You can use it or not your choice. Your just a whining broke loser who wants everyone else to pay for your life of mistakes and laziness
Lucky

United States

#119 Feb 20, 2013
Lol wrote:
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Behold! More prophetic words from the great prophet of topix. And we just thought you were a financial guru.
by the way what is your plan, how is your retirement going to be? Let others learn from you or not! All you do is put down others who want to make it on there own. Show us your great plan! Help us out here.
Kevin

Ann Arbor, MI

#120 Feb 20, 2013
I thought this thread was about pay cuts at Toyota? Now its commies and Dave Ramsey? Yes they are cutting peoples pay one group at a time. The 40 or so jobs they are "re-classing" is just the start of it. Conveyance or quality jobs could be next, who knows who will be the next. Since no one around thee has the testicles to stand up and say something about it they will continue on cutting one small group at a time until it only fair that everyone take a cut. By the way, all new hires already are in a lower pay class and it takes them longer to max out and their max is lower than the people that are already their. Thats fair huh?
educated person

Louisville, KY

#121 Feb 20, 2013
lol wrote:
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i believe the communist parties' foundation is that one man (or entity) is smarter than the little people and therefore he decides how much someone is worth. all the small man should do is work and keep quite. im sure you know all about this theory since its all you preach
To me, that sounds more like how businesses are run. The owner believes himself to be smarter than his employees and he decides how much each employee is worth, and pays them accordingly. They're expected to keep quiet and do their work.

Perhaps business owners are communist?

Or perhaps you have no idea what you're talking about?

Besides, what's YOUR idea of how things should work? Are you one of the "none of us are as smart as all of us" types who believe that strict majority rule is the only way to go? Because there's another word for that; mob rule. If that's what you're suggesting, one might call you a demagogue except for the fact that you're obviously not a leader, nor one of the smarter people among the mob.

So, if you're in favor of mob rule, but you're not a demagogue, one can easily conclude that you are, in the most literal sense, just another idiot in the crowd, waiting for a demagogue to follow.

Congratulations. You should be really proud of yourself.
lol

United States

#122 Feb 20, 2013
educated person wrote:
<quoted text>To me, that sounds more like how businesses are run. The owner believes himself to be smarter than his employees and he decides how much each employee is worth, and pays them accordingly. They're expected to keep quiet and do their work.

Perhaps business owners are communist?

Or perhaps you have no idea what you're talking about?

Besides, what's YOUR idea of how things should work? Are you one of the "none of us are as smart as all of us" types who believe that strict majority rule is the only way to go? Because there's another word for that; mob rule. If that's what you're suggesting, one might call you a demagogue except for the fact that you're obviously not a leader, nor one of the smarter people among the mob.

So, if you're in favor of mob rule, but you're not a demagogue, one can easily conclude that you are, in the most literal sense, just another idiot in the crowd, waiting for a demagogue to follow.

Congratulations. You should be really proud of yourself.
yep. the only diff is that in america you have a right to bargain your pay/benefits. a right which lucky calls being greedy or communist
lol

United States

#123 Feb 20, 2013
Kevin wrote:
I thought this thread was about pay cuts at Toyota? Now its commies and Dave Ramsey? Yes they are cutting peoples pay one group at a time. The 40 or so jobs they are "re-classing" is just the start of it. Conveyance or quality jobs could be next, who knows who will be the next. Since no one around thee has the testicles to stand up and say something about it they will continue on cutting one small group at a time until it only fair that everyone take a cut. By the way, all new hires already are in a lower pay class and it takes them longer to max out and their max is lower than the people that are already their. Thats fair huh?
exactly mr kevin. lucky is just saying you're a greedy commy if you complain about pay cuts
Lucky

Lexington, KY

#124 Feb 20, 2013
lol wrote:
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exactly mr kevin. lucky is just saying you're a greedy commy if you complain about pay cuts
as usual you love to bend what I say. You have no clue what your talking about. You are a bitter jack ass. I am in a union. My whole point is at this point in the game unions get you nowhere. Why? The labor market is flooded! There are more people wanting to work than there are jobs! How can you negotiate for higher pay when there are 3 people wanting a single job at whatever pay is offered? My whole point is that everyone must be prepared for what is coming. And coming soon. There can be no wage negotiations until the labor market is short of laborers. The way to get this is make it favorable for companies to come back to the US by lowering taxes. More companies back in the US means a tighter labor pool. Which means more competition for laborers. This is the only way for unions and individuals to get pay increases. My whole point is at this time you better get off your ass and work on getting out of debt and start your own business to create your own income. Otherwise you are going to be choking on other people dust. Being in the pack of the pack as a wage earner.

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