Toyota Engineers/Specialist OVERPAID

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Slave

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I bust my a** on the line and learn that these deadbeats that call themselves engineers or specialists are making close to $45/hr plus overtime and bonuses! I do way more than they do and it's ridiculous! So, if I go to college and get a degree, I deserve to be making well over $100K a year just because I have been sitting around doing nothing for 10 years or so??? I wonder how much these a**holes got as a bonus this past year end? SICK OF IT!!!!
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Close to $45 an hours is a bit of a stretch, but I guess you now know the advantages of an education. While you were partying and doing whatever, they were studying, and busting their butts in school.
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Some of these people did start working in the line and worked their way up... So before u bad mouth these people get your facts straight! Yes some of them do have degrees and worked hard to get them so yes they do deserve their jobs... Just because your not happy with your job at Toyota doesn't give you the right to bad mouth others that are happy
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Jan 17, 2013
 
they do get bonuses just like everyone else but what you don't know is is that these people instead of taking a pay cut out of they're checks took a pay cut from their bonuses.
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Oh please sniff sniff!!!
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Slave wrote:
I bust my a** on the line and learn that these deadbeats that call themselves engineers or specialists are making close to $45/hr plus overtime and bonuses! I do way more than they do and it's ridiculous! So, if I go to college and get a degree, I deserve to be making well over $100K a year just because I have been sitting around doing nothing for 10 years or so??? I wonder how much these a**holes got as a bonus this past year end? SICK OF IT!!!!
Here's what I just took away from your rant...

"I do mindless manual labor in a factory job that thousands of other people would do at half my salary, but other people get to sit behind a desk and make more than me just because they're educated! No fair!"

Uh, yeah, actually it is fair. The more people there are out there who are willing and able to do a job, the less that job is going to pay. That's a pretty basic element of labor market economics. If jobs were paid based solely on the physical effort they required, ditch diggers would be millionaires.

Count yourself lucky to be making middle class wages doing drone work at a factory, because that kind of pay is not very common for that kind of job. Most manufacturing jobs in this state pay about $13/hr, and many of those jobs are more physically demanding than yours.

Either go get educated and find a better job, or quit whining and be grateful that you make what you make for a job that others would do for HALF of what you're being paid.
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Slave wrote:
I bust my a** on the line and learn that these deadbeats that call themselves engineers or specialists are making close to $45/hr plus overtime and bonuses! I do way more than they do and it's ridiculous! So, if I go to college and get a degree, I deserve to be making well over $100K a year just because I have been sitting around doing nothing for 10 years or so??? I wonder how much these a**holes got as a bonus this past year end? SICK OF IT!!!!
How pissed are you at lawyers making $300/hr setting behind a desk or at ball players making $5 million/yr for playing games?
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Most lawyers aren't making $300/hr, unless you're counting the hours while working on a case and you own the place. Most normal lawyers don't make more than $60,000, unless they own their own firm.
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Jan 17, 2013
 
Not sure how Toyota works but every engineer I know went to school for 4 years of college at minimum with at least 2-4 years additional for masters and higher degrees. That's a good $50k in debt for many. Also, most engineers I know don't get paid hourly or overtime. They get paid salary. Easy weeks where they put in 40 they get paid the same as the weeks where deadlines areclooking and profjects are due and they are pulling 16 hour shift at work each day 7 days a week in addition to working from home on various projects and proposals after hours.. "Sitting on our butt" is not all that meets the eye
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Jan 17, 2013
 
Toyota engineers get paid overtime after 45 hours and get a bonus that is structured differently than the line workers. They do have degrees. It's also a very competitive engineering field, so these guys are talented. They deserve their money.
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Most lawyers aren't making $300/hr, unless you're counting the hours while working on a case and you own the place. Most normal lawyers don't make more than $60,000, unless they own their own firm.
and zero of the engineers at toyota earn $45/hr. so i guess its a wash
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Jan 17, 2013
 
You apparently don't know much. A senior level engineer does make that and everything else on top of that. I guess you only know what goes on with the line workers.
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Here's what I just took away from your rant...
"I do mindless manual labor in a factory job that thousands of other people would do at half my salary, but other people get to sit behind a desk and make more than me just because they're educated! No fair!"
Uh, yeah, actually it is fair. The more people there are out there who are willing and able to do a job, the less that job is going to pay. That's a pretty basic element of labor market economics. If jobs were paid based solely on the physical effort they required, ditch diggers would be millionaires.
Count yourself lucky to be making middle class wages doing drone work at a factory, because that kind of pay is not very common for that kind of job. Most manufacturing jobs in this state pay about $13/hr, and many of those jobs are more physically demanding than yours.
Either go get educated and find a better job, or quit whining and be grateful that you make what you make for a job that others would do for HALF of what you're being paid.
evadenaly YOU don't work there,because the jobs are WAY overburdened!!! And if you DO work for one of the affiliates,or suppliers here locally,then i know for a FACT,you don't work Near as hard as a person working the line at Toyota does!! Been there and done it.
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lol wrote:
You apparently don't know much. A senior level engineer does make that and everything else on top of that. I guess you only know what goes on with the line workers.
i guess you're right. Seeing as how i am an engineer at toyota, what do i know about it?
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flip wrote:
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i guess you're right. Seeing as how i am an engineer at toyota, what do i know about it?
What level of experience do you have? I would say that the payscale for specialists and engineers vary according to your level of experience and perceived talent level.
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Again, I invite any of the line workers pissed about their situation at Toyota to pay my husband the 60000 he spent on degrees, and I invite them to stay late and come in early and go to back to work "after hours" and answer the phone all hours of the day and night, even on days "off" and vacation, work on drafts, eork on design and calculation work on/read reports til midnight or later and not get paid a dime extra
for it. My husband worked the hard labor jobs, decided he'd rather get paid more for using his mind than breaking his body. So her put in 8 years of school and training. Noe his responsilbilities are much more but the pay is much more too. He can do the manual physical work. He's done it before, any body can. But not many can do the job he does, regardless of what you keep telling yourself.

Here is a news flash. Being an engineer is not som magical gift bestowed upon him. He earned it, and you can to. My husband came from nothing, worked his way up got an education. He could have sat there bitching in a website about how much he hates his life and job, but instead he did something about it. You should try it. Go back to school, get a degree, work your way off the lines if you hate it so much.

Oh wait. Who am I kidding, you just want something for nothing and are convincing yourself you could do his job when you can't.
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Jan 18, 2013
 
Specialists are paid by salary. Did you know maintenance makes more than specialists/ engineers?
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UMMM wrote:
<quoted text>evadenaly YOU don't work there,because the jobs are WAY overburdened!!! And if you DO work for one of the affiliates,or suppliers here locally,then i know for a FACT,you don't work Near as hard as a person working the line at Toyota does!! Been there and done it.
No, I don't work there. But I have worked there as a temp on the line, so I do know what it's like. It wasn't a hard job. It could be a strenuous job at times, it was hot, and it was definitely tedious and mind-numbing work, but what I do now is a hell of a lot more difficult than what I did there.

I was able to pick up the tasks at Toyota with a few minutes of training at each station, whereas what I'm doing now takes a college education and a willingness to continue learning everyday just to stay relevant. Nobody comes around and tells me when my job is going to change, then shows me how to do it. That's up to me. It's my job to evolve, and if I don't, the company falls behind the curve and they hire someone with a more current skill set. And my job doesn't end when a bell rings, either. My job ends when the work is done. If that only takes 40 hours, great, but if not, I work free and eat the difference.

That's why I make more today than any given line worker, and yes, I work behind a desk.

The fact of the matter is that if you could do what I do, you'd be doing it, whereas I KNOW I can do what you do because I've done it.

It wasn't that hard.

Get over yourself and quit whining.
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Jan 18, 2013
 
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No, I don't work there. But I have worked there as a temp on the line, so I do know what it's like. It wasn't a hard job. It could be a strenuous job at times, it was hot, and it was definitely tedious and mind-numbing work, but what I do now is a hell of a lot more difficult than what I did there.
I was able to pick up the tasks at Toyota with a few minutes of training at each station, whereas what I'm doing now takes a college education and a willingness to continue learning everyday just to stay relevant. Nobody comes around and tells me when my job is going to change, then shows me how to do it. That's up to me. It's my job to evolve, and if I don't, the company falls behind the curve and they hire someone with a more current skill set. And my job doesn't end when a bell rings, either. My job ends when the work is done. If that only takes 40 hours, great, but if not, I work free and eat the difference.
That's why I make more today than any given line worker, and yes, I work behind a desk.
The fact of the matter is that if you could do what I do, you'd be doing it, whereas I KNOW I can do what you do because I've done it.
It wasn't that hard.
Get over yourself and quit whining.
From the sound of things....You are the one that needs to get over yourself! Feel as you wish, you are still but a pawn to a boss at a factory!! Different chair-same seat
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Jan 18, 2013
 
I have an architectural engineering degree. I did that before toyota. I hated working behind a desk. I have been online at toyota for over 15i years. Wouldnt say i love it. But, i rather be hands on. But my point is that we should just be glad we have a job. Btw, to the lady tthat said anybody can do my job, ive seen thoousands fail at trying. Im thankful for my job even after 15you years.

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