Longtime GOP Texas Gov. Perry wins another term

Republican Gov. Rick Perry has defeated Democrat Bill White to win a third four-year term as Texas governor. Full Story
APRIL FOOLS

Ballwin, MO

#17155 Apr 1, 2013
Lmao :D Love Boomeranged And Taylor Swift
Pinche Gringo

Baytown, TX

#17156 Apr 1, 2013
Bernard Forand wrote:
<quoted text>Keep in mind the various infrastructures deemed sold are actually being leased out. Of course at less than profit generation. it’s the republicans way of raising taxes for immediate cash at the expense of the taxpayers that paid for those infrastructures’ to keep debt levels down. Note as soon they are turned over to corporations they raise the rates 3 times or more. Thus increasing future debt to the taxpayers.
How does raising rates "increase future debt to taxpayers?"
Red

United States

#17157 Apr 1, 2013
Perry
Soft Words

Grapeland, TX

#17158 Apr 2, 2013
Again, more one word super genius's, delete the whole thread!
Bernard Forand

Cape Coral, FL

#17159 Apr 2, 2013
Pinche Gringo wrote:
<quoted text>
How does raising rates "increase future debt to taxpayers?"
How does raising rates increase cost to taxpayers?
Taxpayers that use the particular service that has been leased out are going to pay higher service charges. Triple and or greater than what they were paying. When lease is up do you think the charges will drop? Think not..
Bernard Forand

Cape Coral, FL

#17160 Apr 2, 2013
Defiant1 wrote:
<quoted text>
So, cutting through your pseudo-intellectual blather, the answer is yes. You are a GD Communist.
Defiant returns with the wisdom of callow sophomore. Swearing to his disapproval of some political ideology. What now? You do realize that America incorporates communist as a tool to uphold their democracy when it benefits them. Ironic you bring your god into this. Hmmm does god pay taxes or just goes ahead and shares in our democratic infrastructure?
By the way have 4 solar panels that DIYed and have 2 more going up within the next three weeks. Store bought. No loans all cash. Soon will have enough to fully charge my electric vehicle. LOL making my own fuel.. Fuel savings will buy the vehicle. Have you started yet?
Bernard Forand

Cape Coral, FL

#17161 Apr 2, 2013
Texan wrote:
It is my property bought and paid for>period, point, paragraph, end of discussion. Unless YOU yourself want to try and take it. At which point you will recieve the ultimate proof that it is indeed mine. So put that in your left wing pipe and smoke it.
Old Tex living the Dream of ownership. Consider what would occur if Tex does not pay his taxes to the sovereignty of the land. Hmm renting, leasing would be a more appropriate definition. Consider even if Tex wants to construct something he will be required to first to get permission from the sovereignty. Which then may limit construction and require certain licenses and inspections to make sure it is within the parameters of the sovereignty. This Tex defines as ownership! Dream on.. Stop paying your rent and the nightmare will commence.
Texan

Falls Church, VA

#17162 Apr 2, 2013
Did you pay taxes, and registration fees on those things you bought? If you did; per your own words they aren't yours. You can't have it both ways a--hole. If I can't own my home and land you can't own your solar panels and car.
jim

Hondo, TX

#17163 Apr 2, 2013
test
Pinche Gringo

Baytown, TX

#17164 Apr 3, 2013
Bernard Forand wrote:
<quoted text>
How does raising rates increase cost to taxpayers?
Taxpayers that use the particular service that has been leased out are going to pay higher service charges. Triple and or greater than what they were paying. When lease is up do you think the charges will drop? Think not..
The question was "How does increasing rates increase FUTURE DEBT to taxpayers?" Not costs.
My point is that toll roads are financed through bond sales, built, then leased to an operator. The lease pays the debt and the drivers pay to use the toll roads. Where do the taxpayers come into play? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Pinche Gringo

Baytown, TX

#17165 Apr 3, 2013
Bernard Forand wrote:
<quoted text>
Old Tex living the Dream of ownership. Consider what would occur if Tex does not pay his taxes to the sovereignty of the land. Hmm renting, leasing would be a more appropriate definition. Consider even if Tex wants to construct something he will be required to first to get permission from the sovereignty. Which then may limit construction and require certain licenses and inspections to make sure it is within the parameters of the sovereignty. This Tex defines as ownership! Dream on.. Stop paying your rent and the nightmare will commence.
What entity is the soveriegnty in this situation?
grizz lapp

Ballwin, MO

#17168 Apr 5, 2013
Grizzly Adams
Yous

Alice, TX

#17171 Apr 6, 2013
grizz lapp wrote:
Grizzly Adams
Good luck Texas! We love you :)
Bernard Forand

Cape Coral, FL

#17172 Apr 6, 2013
Pinche Gringo wrote:
<quoted text>
The question was "How does increasing rates increase FUTURE DEBT to taxpayers?" Not costs.
My point is that toll roads are financed through bond sales, built, then leased to an operator. The lease pays the debt and the drivers pay to use the toll roads. Where do the taxpayers come into play? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Future debt is in the increase to say the toll charges. Debt is not paid off any more than when one rents. In business there is a break even point with properties. Then they become losses and are allow to fall into disrepair. Called bleeding the property. Just as those that rent our infrastructures will do when they reach the point of parody. Lease up and infrastructure repairs falls to the taxpayer. Roadway will then be assessed to its potential earnings of what the raised service cost was. Note; Profit of the private industry is added into the assessment, thus once again raising taxes for the infrastructure they have already paid for ,Plus the profits that were derived will be maintained . Taxpayer paid once, twice, thrice for the same infrastructure and the profits that were obtained by the private enterprise is theirs to keep and reinvest.
Another example; Mineral rights are leased out to private enterprises. Now the majority of times lease is not put up for auction, which has proven to be most effective for returns to taxpayers. Common practice its behind closed doors with one bid. Bid turns out to be say $100,000,000 for a $500 Billion transaction. Less infrastructure to recoup minerals and profits go to the leaser of say $20 Billion! Land returned to govt. in distress and taxpayers pay for the clean up and restoration both in monetary and health. If you are interested in a more in depth knowledge of these lease/rent scenarios I can refer you to Book recently written by Nobel Economic writer and author.
Bernard Forand

Cape Coral, FL

#17173 Apr 6, 2013
Pinche Gringo wrote:
<quoted text>
What entity is the soveriegnty in this situation?
The USA in this perticular situations. All nations that are reconized by the UN are soveriegn within their borders.
Bernard Forand

Cape Coral, FL

#17174 Apr 6, 2013
Texan wrote:
Did you pay taxes, and registration fees on those things you bought? If you did; per your own words they aren't yours. You can't have it both ways a--hole. If I can't own my home and land you can't own your solar panels and car.
Yes we finally agree. What I build will return back to the cosmos regardless of how I manage it. There will be others that will use it when I no longer can afford to manage it all. That is the circle of life. We are but temporary landlords, if so wish for a more proper title.

“likes pretty pictures”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#17175 Apr 7, 2013
Gov Good Hair does NOT speak for me
ranger

Ballwin, MO

#17176 Apr 7, 2013
Come and take it!
Big bad john

North Richland Hills, TX

#17177 Apr 7, 2013
Bernard Forand wrote:
<quoted text>
Future debt is in the increase to say the toll charges. Debt is not paid off any more than when one rents. In business there is a break even point with properties. Then they become losses and are allow to fall into disrepair. Called bleeding the property. Just as those that rent our infrastructures will do when they reach the point of parody. Lease up and infrastructure repairs falls to the taxpayer. Roadway will then be assessed to its potential earnings of what the raised service cost was. Note; Profit of the private industry is added into the assessment, thus once again raising taxes for the infrastructure they have already paid for ,Plus the profits that were derived will be maintained . Taxpayer paid once, twice, thrice for the same infrastructure and the profits that were obtained by the private enterprise is theirs to keep and reinvest.
Another example; Mineral rights are leased out to private enterprises. Now the majority of times lease is not put up for auction, which has proven to be most effective for returns to taxpayers. Common practice its behind closed doors with one bid. Bid turns out to be say $100,000,000 for a $500 Billion transaction. Less infrastructure to recoup minerals and profits go to the leaser of say $20 Billion! Land returned to govt. in distress and taxpayers pay for the clean up and restoration both in monetary and health. If you are interested in a more in depth knowledge of these lease/rent scenarios I can refer you to Book recently written by Nobel Economic writer and author.

You are way to long winded my friend. What brings you here in my city with all of this???Besides this thread is way out dated, go get a life.
Big bad john

North Richland Hills, TX

#17178 Apr 7, 2013
ranger wrote:
Come and take it!

Yeaaa what brings a ranger on here? This forum is outdated and closed you nuckel head.

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