Minnesota Chippewa rally for rights u...

Minnesota Chippewa rally for rights under 1855 treaty

There are 151 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 13, 2010, titled Minnesota Chippewa rally for rights under 1855 treaty. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

On the eve of the Minnesota fishing opener, a high-profile Chippewa treaty rights forum and protest unfolds today in Bemidji with both sides hoping the event doesn't escalate beyond speeches and misdemeanor fishing tickets.

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Walker Guy

Nuremberg, Germany

#143 May 30, 2010
Stoney wrote:
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You are so clueless that it amazes me!
To help you keep your foot out of your mouth for the next inane post that you make, the treaties were not signed to keep the settlers from abusing the local natives, they were signed so that the Ojibway and the Souix would stop warring with each other, with the settlers in the middle.
Nope, I don't think he heard that pop yet.
Do you know anything about MN history, dude? Thats a lame explanation. Stoney as a name fits you well.
budgrantlover

Hayward, WI

#144 Jun 1, 2010
thissucks wrote:
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Did you even read what I said? First of all, Minnesota Indians didn't get "screwed." They fought the good fight, lost and to the victor went the spoils. It's time that they, and people like you got over it. Check your history book, it's been that way since the beginning of time. Who said anything about taking "away what little they have?" I said give them exactly what they want; complete sovereignty. That's not taking anything, it's giving everything. Complete sovereignty, not the version they have now. Where they're sovereign, when it works to their advantage and total US citizens when that does. In other words no more dual citizenship. They could net to their hearts content, no limits. Then when they net all the fish, in all the lakes, on the res and sell all the fish. As in Red Lake, maybe we could sell them some fingerlings to start the cycle all over again. Now do they want to be sovereign, or a citizen of the United States?
I vote yes!
budgrantlover

Hayward, WI

#145 Jun 1, 2010
I love the drama! I love that people can't let it go...Tootsweet-not from Boise, claims he and his redneck friends are going to shoot at indians next spring,(which I'm guessing our Federal friends will want to take to you after it happens). I love that the uneducated believe that they "know the answer" to the treaties. I love that people are so out in the open with their believes about solutions the the Indian problem. Embrace the hatred, people, because I do. I've been Ojibwe living in a white mans culture my whole life. I've been hated for who I am and what I do...and I love it. When I spear a fish, it's my way of getting back at the hate mongers and coonass rednecks. Childish, prehaps, but thats the way it is. So keep up the chatter, it makes me feel good about me.
Bluecoat

Saint Paul, MN

#146 Jun 1, 2010
Nobody wants to address any real history here. First off it was the Sioux who were the first main tribe in the region. The Ojibwe pushed them out of most of Minn , by force in the mid 1700's. The major battle that sealed the end for the Sioux in Northern Minn. was fought on the West side of Mille Lacs with the Sioux fleeing for there lives down the Rum river. So if we are talking treaty rights then the Sioux should be the real band that has those rights. Oh now you"ll say the Ojibwe won those rights in war. Well so did the whites so whats different?
TootSweet

Boise, ID

#147 Jun 1, 2010
budgrantlover wrote:
I love the drama! I love that people can't let it go...Tootsweet-not from Boise, claims he and his redneck friends are going to shoot at indians next spring,(which I'm guessing our Federal friends will want to take to you after it happens). I love that the uneducated believe that they "know the answer" to the treaties. I love that people are so out in the open with their believes about solutions the the Indian problem. Embrace the hatred, people, because I do. I've been Ojibwe living in a white mans culture my whole life. I've been hated for who I am and what I do...and I love it. When I spear a fish, it's my way of getting back at the hate mongers and coonass rednecks. Childish, prehaps, but thats the way it is. So keep up the chatter, it makes me feel good about me.
First off, you know that I never said that. You just like to stir the pot some more.

I have yet in my life, to hate someone for "what" they are, but yeah, an a**hole is an a**hole in my book.

As for the rest, if you are comfortable being a racist, then you are comfortable being a racist. I haven't run across one yet that anyone could change. I certainly won't try with you.
budgrantlover

Hayward, WI

#148 Jun 2, 2010
Well, you did say that, but that's not for me to decide. When poor sap and two of his friends (according to you that's a war party, right?)gets shot next year, the Bureau can figure that out. As far as civil unrest, the garbage that you and blue coat, and GA Armstrong come up with, rank right up there. and yes, I too agree that an a hole is an a hole. I bet it's hard for you to wash that stink off of yourself.
TootSweet

Boise, ID

#149 Jun 2, 2010
budgrantlover wrote:
Well, you did say that, but that's not for me to decide. When poor sap and two of his friends (according to you that's a war party, right?)gets shot next year, the Bureau can figure that out. As far as civil unrest, the garbage that you and blue coat, and GA Armstrong come up with, rank right up there. and yes, I too agree that an **** is an ****. I bet it's hard for you to wash that stink off of yourself.
Nice thing about print, ya can rub a racist's nose in it.

""And what I referred to, is if the entire treaty of 1855 is enforced, you will NOT be leaving the reservations.....at least not in groups of more than two. With your "let's spit in whitey's face because we can now" attitude, do you REALLY think some redneck wouldn't take the opportunity? I'm not talking about "throwing shots" either, I'm talking about minute of angle, and goodbye boo boo.""

I don't know YOU, and really wouldn't care to with your attitude. What I can tell YOU is YOU are a discredit to what ever race that you really are.
Lunacy Exposed

Minneapolis, MN

#150 Jun 2, 2010
TootSweet wrote:
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Nice thing about print, ya can rub a racist's nose in it.
""And what I referred to, is if the entire treaty of 1855 is enforced, you will NOT be leaving the reservations.....at least not in groups of more than two. With your "let's spit in whitey's face because we can now" attitude, do you REALLY think some redneck wouldn't take the opportunity? I'm not talking about "throwing shots" either, I'm talking about minute of angle, and goodbye boo boo.""
I don't know YOU, and really wouldn't care to with your attitude. What I can tell YOU is YOU are a discredit to what ever race that you really are.
"Toot Sweets" is a song from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, the 1968 musical motion picture. In the film it is sung by Dick Van Dyke and Sally Ann Howes. "Toot Sweets" is also featured prominently in the multi-award winning stage musical of the same name which premiered in London at the Palladium in 2002 and on Broadway in 2005 at the newly refurbished Hilton Theatre. The song was written by Robert B. Sherman and Richard M. Sherman (also known as the Sherman Brothers).

The song title is a play on words, a humorous Anglicisation of the French expression "tout de suite", meaning "at once".[1] In the context of the film and stage musical, "Toot Sweets" is about a candy cane that has holes in it, making the candy playable as an edible tin-whistle. Unfortunately for protagonist Caractacus Potts, the "Toot Sweets" act like dog whistles, calling all the local canines into the candy factory (not unlike The Pied Piper Of Hamelin), ruining the sanitary conditions of the factory and turning love interest Truly's father against him.

First time I've ever seen a bitter hated-filled candy cane with holes.
taxpayer too

Mahnomen, MN

#151 Jun 17, 2010
Sconnie Brian wrote:
Let me see if I understand this correctly. The Red Lake Native Americans overfished the lake and the fishery collapsed. Who do they turn to for help getting it restored? The Minnesota DNR. Now, they want to expand their rights to a larger territory to repeat the same thing. I supposed they expect the Minnesota government to bail them out (again) of a mess that they created? You simply can't keep changing the rules of the game and expect the people of Minnesota to calmly accept it.
http://www.rlnn.com/newsarticlespast/RLDNRCon...
WHY NOT YOUR PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENT DO IT ALL THE TIME...IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT THEY FIND A LOOPHOLE...bummer huh?
Ojibwe

Lawrence, KS

#152 Oct 18, 2011
I just would like to say that all of you people with your comments no nothing of the past 500 years of what Native americans went through. We gave up our land by getting blankets with small pox and raping our women. This may be the 20th century, but the US government signed the treaty and not you ignorant people. This is your government right?? So abide by it and shut the hell up.
rezrat

Bettendorf, IA

#153 Oct 27, 2011
stpaulguy wrote:
You guys rally for your fishing rights, the rest of us are going to rally for our Racino Rights!
up here it wont even matter,,i hope you people do get a casino,,give them sioux a run for there money,,

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