Ojibwe demand fishing rights, cite 1885 treaty

Full story: TwinCities.com

Ojibwe band members went fishing before last year's opener to force a treaty dispute into court, but the state still hasn't brought charges, and the issue is ongoing as the 2011 opener approaches.
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Nostradumas

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Leech Lake and White Earth members set nets on Lake Bemidji before last year's opener but have not been prosecuted.

Of course not, we cannot procecute the poor Indians. It is 2011 get off your
azzes and quit using the white man stole our land excuse. If they can net everyone should be able to.
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Why can't the state of Minnesota and the tribes be partners in conserving our limited natural resources? It seems to me that both have a mutual interest in protecting and preserving for the future.
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How about we let them fish all they want, but they have to give up their casinos, since those were never mentioned in the treaties from the 1800's? Their protest would probably end rather quickly.
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Nostradumas wrote:
Leech Lake and White Earth members set nets on Lake Bemidji before last year's opener but have not been prosecuted.
Of course not, we cannot procecute the poor Indians. It is 2011 get off your
**** and quit using the white man stole our land excuse. If they can net everyone should be able to.
Is using the "We have a treaty with the US government that allows us to do that" excuse alright with you?
The American Way

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These Indians should just go back to where they came from.
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Gimme Gimme I need I need
Nostradumas

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Civitas wrote:
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Is using the "We have a treaty with the US government that allows us to do that" excuse alright with you?
Yes
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Civitas wrote:
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Is using the "We have a treaty with the US government that allows us to do that" excuse alright with you?
That is what the dispute is and should be for the courts to decide. Breaking the law in the meantime is still breaking the law. Also just because you have a right to do something doesn't mean you should always do so. Netting is horrible for lakes (See Red Lake)
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The American Way wrote:
These Indians should just go back to where they came from.
They can't, the land bridge they used to cross over from Asia is now gone.
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The American Way wrote:
These Indians should just go back to where they came from.
They are where they came from.

“Ahhhh hee ahw”

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So which is it: 1885 or 1855? Big difference, because no treaty made after 3/3/1871 can be recognized by the federal government:

"No Indian nation or tribe within the territory of the United States shall be acknowledged or recognized as an independent nation, tribe, or power with whom the United States may contract by treaty; but no obligation of any treaty lawfully made and ratified with any such Indian nation or tribe prior to March 3, 1871, shall be hereby invalidated or impaired"
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meinstpaul wrote:
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They are where they came from.
Sorry, 99.9 percent of human dna has been traced to North Africa approx 40,000 years ago. We are all from Africa.
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meinstpaul wrote:
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They are where they came from.
You missed the posters sarcasm or your sense of humor is even more dry, then I give you props. lol

What Im wondering, The title in the story says 1885 but the story says 1855. Which is it? More incomplete, non proofreading, unprofessional gobbly gook from the AP.

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Anyone know where a person could get a copy of the treaty to read through?

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The treaty of 1855 also states that 3 or more Indians found off the Reservation together can be considered a war party and they can legally be shot.

Do the Natives Really wanna use this treaty to exersise their rights ?

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mncode wrote:
Anyone know where a person could get a copy of the treaty to read through?
Google Me Boy.

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I found one from 1851 that seems to be correct. But without an actual treaty name (if I missed it, would someone point it out to me?) to look up it gets kind of rough. There were quite a few treaties signed in 1855.
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Mayor of Wilfville wrote:
The treaty of 1855 also states that 3 or more Indians found off the Reservation together can be considered a war party and they can legally be shot.
The Indians misread it and thought it said do a shot.

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Mayor of Wilfville wrote:
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Google Me Boy.
Trying. Lots of junk out there.

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Are they talking about this one?

The Treaty of Traverse des Sioux, 1851

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