Teen dies after 100-mph chase ends in...

Teen dies after 100-mph chase ends in crash in Beltrami County

There are 68 comments on the TwinCities.com story from May 11, 2011, titled Teen dies after 100-mph chase ends in crash in Beltrami County. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Authorities are investigating after a teenage boy crashed and died following a police chase in northern Minnesota that reached speeds of more than 100 mph.

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Since: Jun 08

Pine Island, MN

#3 May 11, 2011
I completely disagree. ALCOHOL and DRIVING killed that teen. The driver made a stupid choice and it cost someone their life. Even if alcohol wasn't involved, it was the driver's fault. Not the police. He made the choice to drive that way, the police didn't force him to. This argument may be true and valid elsewhere but not in this case.
lol wrote:
About 360 people are killed each year in police chases, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Proponents of more restrictive chase policies say the fatality numbers are lower than the real toll because there is no mandatory reporting system for deaths in pursuits
Geoffrey Alpert, a professor of criminology at the University of South Carolina who has studied police pursuits since the 1980s, says the actual number of fatalities is "three or four times higher." Another complicating factor: bystanders killed after police stop chasing suspects — even seconds afterward — are not counted.
About 35%-40% of all police chases end in crashes, Alpert says. He says the nation's 17,000 police departments are moving toward more restrictive chase policies "because chasing someone for a traffic offense or a property offense is not worth the risk of people's lives and well-being."
A minor traffic stop can lead to long jail sentences with Wisconsin truth in sentencing. Many pursuits are over fear of the out of control Judiciary.
Milwaukee changed its policy on pursuits after four people were killed by drivers fleeing police in three separate incidents in a two-month period. Police there now must have probable cause that a violent felony has occurred instead of reasonable suspicion before initiating a chase.
Police killing our youth.
Rich U

Austin, TX

#4 May 11, 2011
Ah yes, Darwin strikes again.
Rich U

Austin, TX

#5 May 11, 2011
lol wrote:
About 360 people are killed each year in police chases, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Proponents of more restrictive chase policies say the fatality numbers are lower than the real toll because there is no mandatory reporting system for deaths in pursuits
Geoffrey Alpert, a professor of criminology at the University of South Carolina who has studied police pursuits since the 1980s, says the actual number of fatalities is "three or four times higher." Another complicating factor: bystanders killed after police stop chasing suspects — even seconds afterward — are not counted.
About 35%-40% of all police chases end in crashes, Alpert says. He says the nation's 17,000 police departments are moving toward more restrictive chase policies "because chasing someone for a traffic offense or a property offense is not worth the risk of people's lives and well-being."
A minor traffic stop can lead to long jail sentences with Wisconsin truth in sentencing. Many pursuits are over fear of the out of control Judiciary.
Milwaukee changed its policy on pursuits after four people were killed by drivers fleeing police in three separate incidents in a two-month period. Police there now must have probable cause that a violent felony has occurred instead of reasonable suspicion before initiating a chase.
Police killing our youth.
Blow it out yer hay bag.
Ben10

Grand Rapids, MN

#6 May 11, 2011
lol wrote:
About 360 people are killed each year in police chases, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Proponents of more restrictive chase policies say the fatality numbers are lower than the real toll because there is no mandatory reporting system for deaths in pursuits
Geoffrey Alpert, a professor of criminology at the University of South Carolina who has studied police pursuits since the 1980s, says the actual number of fatalities is "three or four times higher." Another complicating factor: bystanders killed after police stop chasing suspects — even seconds afterward — are not counted.
About 35%-40% of all police chases end in crashes, Alpert says. He says the nation's 17,000 police departments are moving toward more restrictive chase policies "because chasing someone for a traffic offense or a property offense is not worth the risk of people's lives and well-being."
A minor traffic stop can lead to long jail sentences with Wisconsin truth in sentencing. Many pursuits are over fear of the out of control Judiciary.
Milwaukee changed its policy on pursuits after four people were killed by drivers fleeing police in three separate incidents in a two-month period. Police there now must have probable cause that a violent felony has occurred instead of reasonable suspicion before initiating a chase.
Police killing our youth.
Typical and silly. You must be one of the leeches, a minority plagued with the disease of greed, expecting others to take over the responsibility you should have for yourself. Childish. Grow up, dummy, and take some onus for yourself and your own actions. When will you clowns ever learn this?
Really try again

Saint Paul, MN

#7 May 11, 2011
lol wrote:
About 360 people are killed each year in police chases, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Proponents of more restrictive chase policies say the fatality numbers are lower than the real toll because there is no mandatory reporting system for deaths in pursuits
Geoffrey Alpert, a professor of criminology at the University of South Carolina who has studied police pursuits since the 1980s, says the actual number of fatalities is "three or four times higher." Another complicating factor: bystanders killed after police stop chasing suspects — even seconds afterward — are not counted.
About 35%-40% of all police chases end in crashes, Alpert says. He says the nation's 17,000 police departments are moving toward more restrictive chase policies "because chasing someone for a traffic offense or a property offense is not worth the risk of people's lives and well-being."
A minor traffic stop can lead to long jail sentences with Wisconsin truth in sentencing. Many pursuits are over fear of the out of control Judiciary.
Milwaukee changed its policy on pursuits after four people were killed by drivers fleeing police in three separate incidents in a two-month period. Police there now must have probable cause that a violent felony has occurred instead of reasonable suspicion before initiating a chase.
Police killing our youth.
If it has anything to do with a cop you will spout off. Tell us again what you were arrested for?
Ya Know

Maple Plain, MN

#8 May 11, 2011
Mike the Vike wrote:
I completely disagree. ALCOHOL and DRIVING killed that teen. The driver made a stupid choice and it cost someone their life. Even if alcohol wasn't involved, it was the driver's fault. Not the police. He made the choice to drive that way, the police didn't force him to. This argument may be true and valid elsewhere but not in this case.
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If police didn't chase this kid he would not have run!

Really try again

Saint Paul, MN

#9 May 11, 2011
Ya Know wrote:
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If police didn't chase this kid he would not have run!
Did you read that he slid over into the drivers seat and took off? He was already running. The officers should have just let him go? What would your thought process be if they had let him just drive off, and he killed someone? Would it then also been the fault of the police that just let him go? When someone runs form the police it is NEVER a good thing. If he would have just sat where he was and NOT done something stupid, he would still be alive.
Javier

Minneapolis, MN

#10 May 11, 2011
Mr. "lol", do you get off by seeing how many people respond to your absolute stupidity?

The police chase didn't kill anyone. Stupidity, something you should be familiar with, killed this kid.

The argument of "if police didn't chase him, he wouldn't have run away" is total bull crap. I pay my taxes so police apprehend the people who are goiong to harm persons or property if they are not caught. What if they let this kid go and he ran someone over in a cross walk, or a sidewalk. Then as sholes like you would cry that the police should have gotten him before he ran them down!!!

People as dumb as you seriously need the crap knocked right out of you!
Really try again

Saint Paul, MN

#11 May 11, 2011
Javier wrote:
Mr. "lol", do you get off by seeing how many people respond to your absolute stupidity?
The police chase didn't kill anyone. Stupidity, something you should be familiar with, killed this kid.
The argument of "if police didn't chase him, he wouldn't have run away" is total bull crap. I pay my taxes so police apprehend the people who are goiong to harm persons or property if they are not caught. What if they let this kid go and he ran someone over in a cross walk, or a sidewalk. Then as sholes like you would cry that the police should have gotten him before he ran them down!!!
People as dumb as you seriously need the crap knocked right out of you!
You got this right. I wonder if he will ever say why he was arrested?
Really try again

Saint Paul, MN

#12 May 11, 2011
Mr lol you can judge me nuts and clueless all day long. Just shows that you can't stan anyone that calls you out on what you were arrested for. Everyone that has ever read any of your stupid comments KNOWS YOU have been arrested. You hate all police every where. You have put a blanket statement out showing how small your mind is. Now got to Judge it and give your usual nuts and clueless. I will continue to call you out on your arrests. So until your next stupid cop comment, see ya.

JTY

Since: Sep 08

Lincoln, NE

#14 May 11, 2011
Ya Know wrote:
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If police didn't chase this kid he would not have run!
If the kid didn't run the police would not have chased!
Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

#15 May 11, 2011
No spin zone wrote:
Stupid f-in cops they know who the 16 yr old is but still chase him at 100 mph. What a bunch of azs clowns.
And how exactly did the cops at the time know who was passed out and then suddenly taking off in the car? You're just a lonely cop hater from way back.

Since: Jun 09

Lincoln, NE

#17 May 11, 2011
Ya Know wrote:
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The police could have pulled the keys from the ignition.
The police could have removed the other kid from the vehicle.
IF the kid had not been chased he would be alive today, kids run from flashing lights.
Running from the police IS NOT punishable by death, nothing in Minnesota is punishable by death.
Kids are immature and make bad decisions, police are trained and "mature" supposed to make informed/mature decisions.
Of course we all know there are a lot of police officers who are in the profession for the excitment of a chase, NOT making the correct decision!
In many cases of police pursuit innocent bystanders end up dead, oh ya the poice "Got their man" in some cases but I'll just bet the officers involved wished they had NOT chased the vehicles involved. Many of these innocent deaths are famlies including wives and kids.
Where does "Protect and Serve" fit in the picture?
Right. They should have just let the drunken teenager take the car and kill somebody else. Somebody made a bad choice here, but I don't think it was the cops. Thank goodness he was the only one he killed.

JTY

Since: Sep 08

Lincoln, NE

#19 May 11, 2011
Ya Know wrote:
<quoted text>
The police could have pulled the keys from the ignition.
The police could have removed the other kid from the vehicle.
IF the kid had not been chased he would be alive today, kids run from flashing lights.
Running from the police IS NOT punishable by death, nothing in Minnesota is punishable by death.
Kids are immature and make bad decisions, police are trained and "mature" supposed to make informed/mature decisions.
Of course we all know there are a lot of police officers who are in the profession for the excitment of a chase, NOT making the correct decision!
In many cases of police pursuit innocent bystanders end up dead, oh ya the poice "Got their man" in some cases but I'll just bet the officers involved wished they had NOT chased the vehicles involved. Many of these innocent deaths are famlies including wives and kids.
Where does "Protect and Serve" fit in the picture?
I can tell that the concept of personal responsibility is foreign to you.

No one force this kid to drive 100 mph, no one forced him to flee the police, and no one forced him to drink. Also it was not the police that killed him, he killed himself.
No spin zone

Forest Lake, MN

#20 May 12, 2011
Wade Gustafson wrote:
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And how exactly did the cops at the time know who was passed out and then suddenly taking off in the car? You're just a lonely cop hater from way back.
And do you think that when cops are running at 100 mph an hr NO one will get hurt!! You stupid person! They are human beings! Not SUPER human beings. They can no more handle a car at 100 mph than anyone else. It's all about their ego's and letting someone get away from the chase. Not a cop hater a stupid human being hater and this fits.
sgt Slaughter

Eau Claire, WI

#21 May 12, 2011
Im glad the little a-shole is dead, he sure wont do it again, just god thinning out the herd.
No spin zone

Forest Lake, MN

#22 May 12, 2011
sgt Slaughter wrote:
Im glad the little a-shole is dead, he sure wont do it again, just god thinning out the herd.
What if they ran over your kid at 100 mphs??? You would be the first on suing the cops! Wake up!
sgt Slaughter

Eau Claire, WI

#23 May 12, 2011
No spin zone wrote:
<quoted text>What if they ran over your kid at 100 mphs??? You would be the first on suing the cops! Wake up!
i read your crap now and then, i think you and lol shared the same cell. no gaurnty in life, lost my god son when he was 22, died from cancer, i know he wanted to live, but when you do something like this moronic kid did, he must not of cared about his life, so hes better off dead, thank gawd he didnt take anyone with him, the police had nothing to do with this kids death, stupid is stupid does.
Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

#24 May 12, 2011
No spin zone wrote:
<quoted text>And do you think that when cops are running at 100 mph an hr NO one will get hurt!! You stupid person! They are human beings! Not SUPER human beings. They can no more handle a car at 100 mph than anyone else. It's all about their ego's and letting someone get away from the chase. Not a cop hater a stupid human being hater and this fits.
Cops don't chase after bad guys because of their egos. They chase after bad guys because that's their job. They're following departmental policy and procedure. You can disagree with that if you like, but those are the facts. In urban areas many times the police do not chase after suspects of minor offenses. This was not an urban area. The alternative is to not go after the bad guys and then what kind of lawless land will we be living in?(Although that might be more to your liking. What was your offense anyway? How much time did you do? You hate cops so much you must have some sort of police record other than traffic offenses).
No spin zone

Forest Lake, MN

#25 May 12, 2011
Wade Gustafson wrote:
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Cops don't chase after bad guys because of their egos. They chase after bad guys because that's their job. They're following departmental policy and procedure. You can disagree with that if you like, but those are the facts. In urban areas many times the police do not chase after suspects of minor offenses. This was not an urban area. The alternative is to not go after the bad guys and then what kind of lawless land will we be living in?(Although that might be more to your liking. What was your offense anyway? How much time did you do? You hate cops so much you must have some sort of police record other than traffic offenses).
100 mph do you understand how fast that is???? Most likely you don't, you have very little control. Was this kid wanted for murder, rape, kidnapping, robbery NO. So chase him 100 mph. And you go find the policy that says chase someone at 100 mph for a non felony offence. PLEASE show me! You cant! I'm sure there are words to the effect to end a chase if it endanger the public in any way. Did you know that most the time IF not always if someone being chased can't see a cop behind them THEY SLOW DOWN! Good grief!

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