Days from retirement, Duluth officer hurt in crash

There are 25 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 15, 2011, titled Days from retirement, Duluth officer hurt in crash. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Police say a Duluth officer, just days away from retirement, is hospitalized after his squad car was hit by a repeat drunken driver.

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WOW

Rochester, MN

#1 Mar 15, 2011
This is bad luck, but glad that he is OK. But can we look into why a public employee can retire at age 50 and probably draw a significant public pension for the rest of his life?
Bally the Weerman

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Mar 15, 2011
WOW wrote:
But can we look into why a public employee can retire at age 50 and probably draw a significant public pension for the rest of his life?
Wow. He could have been killed in the line of duty and all you can see are dollar signs. Would you have been happier if he had been killed and therefore couldn't collect on the pension that he earned? You, sir, are pathetic.
red bull

United States

#3 Mar 15, 2011
If you start working at 20 years and retire at 50 years you have been there 30 years......no need to go from the work site to the grave site....
Me too

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Mar 15, 2011
WOW stated he was glad the officer was OK. And he does have a valid question about the $$$ for pensiions. So, BALLY in my opinion you "sir" are the pathetic one.
Get serious on drunks

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Mar 15, 2011
A co-worker was working in Germany and was caught DWI. The ONLY WAY he avoided a long prison sentence was to agree to leave the country and NEVER return.

The police escourted him to the airport and took the documentation allowing him to enter Germany.

In Minnesota we have law makers who have been caught DWI, is there any wonder why there are drunks all over the place?
Evangilizer

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Mar 15, 2011
red bull wrote:
If you start working at 20 years and retire at 50 years you have been there 30 years......no need to go from the work site to the grave site....
Unless your a teacher in WI or a privately employeed worker.......
Bally the Weerman

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Mar 15, 2011
Me too wrote:
WOW stated he was glad the officer was OK. And he does have a valid question about the $$$ for pensiions. So, BALLY in my opinion you "sir" are the pathetic one.
Your opinion is worthless. I am concerned about our brave men and women who daily put their lives on the line to keep us safe.
Bally the Weerman

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Mar 15, 2011
Also, Me too=WOW.
lobosffl

Duluth, MN

#9 Mar 15, 2011
I can understand 50 as a retirement age. If you look closely at old police officers, they are well on their way to the Homer Simpson body type. I guess they get that way from putting their lives on the line every day. With the new teacher licensing, now they can become a teacher and complain how hard that is.
v2v2v2

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Mar 15, 2011
Me too wrote:
WOW stated he was glad the officer was OK. And he does have a valid question about the $$$ for pensiions. So, BALLY in my opinion you "sir" are the pathetic one.
when the cop shows up to investigate the robbery, stop the disturbance or nail the idiot hitting your wife, do you stop the whole thing and ask how much he has in his pension fund, and if it is "too much", do you tell him to go away and send someone with less seniority ~ if the second cop gets hurt it won't cost so much, right? These cops are required to be ready in an instant to do what they have been trained to do. This response has to be from someone who has never had a job in their life, and are jealous of anyone who has the chutzpah to go to work each day and do their job.
fred

Holmen, WI

#13 Mar 15, 2011
Obviously it more comfortable for the wows of this world to focus on $$ than on the fact that we are a country at war. And I don't mean Afghanistan. We are a country at war with home-grown terrorists.

If you drive a certain make/model of care, there are those who will blow you brains out in a car jacking and never think twice. If you live in a neighborhood considered affluent, there are those who will invade your home and very likely kill you as they leave with your possessions. If you just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, there are those who will gun you down for whatever psychotic reason.

If you are a police officer, firefighter, EMT you are a target every time you answer a call. Don't believe me? Read about the plot in Springfield Il.

So, wow, me too, et.al, when are you going to get the education needed and put on the uniform that makes you a target every working day of your life? Since you are so concerned about $$, you can work for a lower wage, meager health insurance, without collective bargaining, and a skimpy pension if you last until you've put 50 years on the job.
WOW

Rochester, MN

#14 Mar 15, 2011
Wow, ask a simple question.......

Let's say he was making $60K a year and gets 90% of that for life.$54K for 35 years is over $1.7M, and he probably gets annual COL adjustments, putting it over $2M. No one in the Private Sector gets that. And it is just not the officers (who yes, put their lives on the line) It is the guys who cuts the grass and plow the streets and the people who answer phones and work for the Parks who get these enormous payouts - all for doing non-life-threatening everyday mundane jobs with good wages and very good healthcare.
Zingbopper

Hamel, MN

#15 Mar 15, 2011
WOW wrote:
Wow, ask a simple question.......
Let's say he was making $60K a year and gets 90% of that for life.$54K for 35 years is over $1.7M, and he probably gets annual COL adjustments, putting it over $2M. No one in the Private Sector gets that. And it is just not the officers (who yes, put their lives on the line) It is the guys who cuts the grass and plow the streets and the people who answer phones and work for the Parks who get these enormous payouts - all for doing non-life-threatening everyday mundane jobs with good wages and very good healthcare.
If you think it's such a great gig why don't you do it? Put up or s t f up.
Zingbopper

Hamel, MN

#16 Mar 15, 2011
fred wrote:
Obviously it more comfortable for the wows of this world to focus on $$ than on the fact that we are a country at war. And I don't mean Afghanistan. We are a country at war with home-grown terrorists.
If you drive a certain make/model of care, there are those who will blow you brains out in a car jacking and never think twice. If you live in a neighborhood considered affluent, there are those who will invade your home and very likely kill you as they leave with your possessions. If you just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, there are those who will gun you down for whatever psychotic reason.
If you are a police officer, firefighter, EMT you are a target every time you answer a call. Don't believe me? Read about the plot in Springfield Il.
So, wow, me too, et.al, when are you going to get the education needed and put on the uniform that makes you a target every working day of your life? Since you are so concerned about $$, you can work for a lower wage, meager health insurance, without collective bargaining, and a skimpy pension if you last until you've put 50 years on the job.
Well put.
Retired

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Mar 15, 2011
Any number of companies have pensions with 30 years service at any age. Wish I had worked for Ford or the RailRoad.
Yetti

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Mar 15, 2011
Still drunk at 6:20 a.m.? Dude.

Still hammered at 6:20 in the morning =Fail.
Hitting and injuring a cop in the process = Epic Fail!
Real numbers from a cop

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Mar 15, 2011
WOW wrote:
Wow, ask a simple question.......
Let's say he was making $60K a year and gets 90% of that for life.$54K for 35 years is over $1.7M, and he probably gets annual COL adjustments, putting it over $2M. No one in the Private Sector gets that. And it is just not the officers (who yes, put their lives on the line) It is the guys who cuts the grass and plow the streets and the people who answer phones and work for the Parks who get these enormous payouts - all for doing non-life-threatening everyday mundane jobs with good wages and very good healthcare.
Let's look at actual numbers. He'll receive 3% for each year that he worked. Because he is leaving before 55, he takes a 1.2%/year penalty for 5 years. Let's say he started at 23, giving him 27 years of work, 3% x 27 years = 81%, less his 6% penalty for leaving early, for a 75% retirement. 75% of $60,000 =$45,000/year.

Not a bad pension. But here is where it gets interesting. His pension will be covered by dollars he invested (approx 15%), dollars that his employer invested (approx 18%), with the other 67% coming from the gains made on those investments over his 27 year career. In other words, the taxpayer has contributed 18% of his pension OR $8,100.$8,100/year or $675/month.

$8,100 (reality) versus $54,000 (myth). Those are the real numbers. There is so much misinformation and plain wrong information out there. WI governor Scott Walker has villified the public employee simply to bust the unions. Tim Pawlenty sickens me with his bold-faced lies regarding our pensions. This is the same guy that has had round-the-clock protection from MN troopers for the last 8 years.

Public employee pensions did not cause our current economic problems, and Walker will find out soon enough that destroying won't make a dent in his deficit.
Andy boso

Johnson City, TN

#20 Mar 15, 2011
Hey "wow", why don't you just read the article and move along. My dad (DON BOSO) has worked hard his entire life, starting in the marines and transitioning to law enforcement. I constantly sat up all night as a child because I was worried if my dad would make it home from work that night. Now that I'm 22 and some drunk idiot hits him, causing bleeding in some of his organs, you feel the need to throw a half-assed get well soon out there and then proceed to question his wage? He retires at 50 because he had his life planned before he was a legal adult. Shame on you. Take it up with your congressman, not on my dads article. To everyone else who wished his recovery, thank you.
super44

Perham, MN

#21 Mar 15, 2011
Bally the Weerman wrote:
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Wow. He could have been killed in the line of duty and all you can see are dollar signs. Would you have been happier if he had been killed and therefore couldn't collect on the pension that he earned? You, sir, are pathetic.
No sir you are pathetic, to think public unions deserve to be funded by the tax payer. If you are not in a public union, what is the average retirement age, i will guarantee you it is not 50 or 55. Unions are corrupt, I do not care what organization you are in.
Zingbopper

Hamel, MN

#22 Mar 16, 2011
super44 wrote:
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No sir you are pathetic, to think public unions deserve to be funded by the tax payer. If you are not in a public union, what is the average retirement age, i will guarantee you it is not 50 or 55. Unions are corrupt, I do not care what organization you are in.
I've said it before and I'll say it again- if you think it's such a great job why don't you go for it? Yeah, it's easy to shoot off your fat face while you sit on your fat arse, isn't it. Put up or shut up, you lazy worthless p o s.

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