As many as 9 killed in Fort Hood shootings, officials say

[Tama Samoa]

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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Say the Truth; you want to correct the spelling errors or should I?
TS; let's make sure you're in place with a gun loaded to shoot at point blank range the next guy who does. Ok? You want to fix the problem? Then be part of the solution, or STFU!

Thats is your typical liberal response to criticism about this liar in Washington. When Americans shows their frustration this liberal media demands solution but even when solution are presented they blame it on the race card or politics.

Here is my solution to solving your problem, take a gun and shoot yourself in the head because a bullet in hour head makes more sense than your stupid comments to cover up for muslim terrorist like Hasans attack on American soldiers. Don't forget to wipe your behind after you eat...

[Conservative Democrat]

Tama Samoa wrote:

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Thats is your typical liberal response to criticism about this liar in Washington. When Americans shows their frustration this liberal media demands solution but even when solution are presented they blame it on the race card or politics.
Here is my solution to solving your problem, take a gun and shoot yourself in the head because a bullet in hour head makes more sense than your stupid comments to cover up for muslim terrorist like Hasans attack on American soldiers. Don't forget to wipe your behind after you eat...

And just what makes you think I have a problem? I'm not the one with a chip on my shoulder and an itchy trigger finger.

Americans who show their frustration amount to no more than the huddle masses. Americans who keep a level head, even in the face of stupidity are the ones who lead the huddle masses.

[Conservative Democrat]

Say the Truth wrote:

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Of course, anyone captured overseas in a battle zone or onshore as an enemy combatant and not a US citizen is not afforded protection either, correct?
By the way your assertion that "only U.S. Citizens are protected under the Constitution" is 100% incorrect, you get a big FAIL, and your salary is now reduced to $0.375/hr.

Damn! I guess I'll really go hungry now. Should I surrender my professional license and close up my accounts also?

If you call being held prisoner without a formal charge and under a made up term, such as "enemy combatant," and being tortured for information a constitutional protection, then of course we can say that non U.S. Citizens have protections under our Constitution.

[Conservative Democrat]

Democrats are Retarded wrote:

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This is a common problem Democrats have.
They think we get our rights from the constitution.
We do NOT get our rights from the constitution,
The constitution only Defines and LIMITS the government.
People get their rights from nature.
These rights are only PROTECTED by the constitution.
If there was no constitution, we would still have the rights.

You're confusing fundamental rights of common law and constitutionally protected rights. OTOH, what's the point on having rights that can't be enforced and which will not be respected by anyone, especially government? Would you like to have a dictator, or a President and a democratic system of government?

[saviorself]

lilac wrote:

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True. But now that george bush has a lot o time on his hands he could try to increase his reading comprehension level. Bye.

you must have missed the memo... we have a new president now. Idiot. that's what you get from a partisan hack, though, just like the Bush brigade wanting to blame everything on Clinton and Jaime Gorelick.

[FKLBRLS]

`Let's get some perspective here on the Clinton era:

February 26, 1993 World Trade Center Bombing
October 13, 1995 riyadh Bombing
June 25, 1996 Kobhar Towers Bombing
August 7, 1998 US Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania
August 20, 1998 Clinton retaliates for the embassy bombings by firing missiles at Sudan and Afghanistan, but Osama, the mastermind behind the embassy attacks survives
October 12, 2000 Bombing of USS Cole

Clinton failed twice to give the go ahead to assassinate the Osama he'd ordered missile strikes intended to kill him. If Clinton's missile strikes weren't a "foreign national" then WTF is pal?! He was guaranteed success with Osama in the sights and we know what happened after Clinton failed to allow a justified action against a known terrorist who he'd tried to kill once before!

Al Qaeda was at war with us throughout the entire presidency of Clinton, in comparison to a vague warning at the start of Bush's presidency that offered no hope of preventing anything. I realize being someone who was never in the military and who does not follow the news, you'd rather just sit there denying the facts and pretending the lives of terrorists are more important than their victims and our soldiers.

And who are you kidding with your politicized spin on things? I blame Bush for the first bailouts, his attempts at amnesty for illegals, his failure to provide adequate troops to secure Iraq from the onset, and plenty of other things. I blame anyone caught up in valid corruption and am happy to see them leave office. Valid, not politically conjured witch hunts like the shit you you devour with a shovel from Lilac the stench flower.

Why exactly shouldn't the US have not had a policy of going after those who murder our citizens and soldiers? You have a hell of a nerve to lie about having been one.

Your one month nonsense explains nothing about Clinton's failure to address all terrorist attacks under his watch after the World Trade Center bombings as opposed to Bush preventing every terrorist plot against Americans on our soil and the planes headed to the US since 9/11. As a true leftist double standard hypocrite, you are quick to point out Clinton's short time in office and condemn Bush with his short time in office in relation to a far greater attack with not even remotely enough information to prevent it! At least I'll be honest with you and say that Clinton couldn't have prevented most of those attacks, though he had every chance to pursue and eliminate the bastards behind them.

As for recession, the dot com bubble burst and manufacturing was about get hit hard before Clinton left office. This stuff builds up over time, ya "genius". The economy doesn't just magically explode the second a new president hits office, although our debt does when a new president signs off on a failed pork barrel payback bill posting as a stimulus. So don't sit there and lie to me that Bush didn't inherit economic problems just as Obama did. In Obama's case, his Democrat cohorts did plenty to contribute to problems he inherited, but you would have the moral spine to admit it.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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Look, you're going to blame the Democrats because they're Democrats and not Republicans. Plain and simple.

[FKLBRLS]

YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION his a crock of you know what as are the lies about professional and miltary background. You forgot to address your PHd's in economy, pschology, political science and anything else we might discuss. You made such a grandiose display in your prior post about your supposed experience and knowledge that it reeked of conjured credentials. But I'm willing to admit that your biggest lie is that you're a moderate liberal.

Let's just say that those in the center aren't crazy enough to slam on our dead soliders and bend over backwards to protect the betraying bastard Muslim Jihadist responsible for their deaths on our soil. Look I get it. You attended the same Mosque as Hasan and don't want to sully his good name while you and the Imam are out partying over his over achievement. We know you wouldn't never in a million years condmen Hasan or any other terrorist for what they've done to destroy lives nor would you ever find it acceptable to make it impossible for them to continue doing "business as usual".

You are the epitome of what makes political "correctness" that has proven all too deadly and dangerous to this country. When you go to great lengths to give comfort and shield a mass murderer while not hesitating to show complete disrespect for his victims, you show everyone where your morals lie... in the gutter!

I'm not out of line in what I said about loading the guns. You had every chance to speak truthfully about Hasan's terrorist act and at the very least show a shred of humanity and decency in caring about his victims and condemning an obvious act of evil. You made an epic fail. And there will never come a time where you have anything to say against terrorism, so I'm not holding my breath waiting.

No more of this professional opinion nonsense. Evidence is there and I don't have to do a thing to know it's real and that you are hell bent on denial, speculation and diversion. As far as Hasan being innocent until provent guilty in eyes of the law. I'll lay it out for you... he'll be found guilty soon enough and I'm fine with letting him pretend to be innocent while incarcerated until that time. I believe wholeheartedly that we must assume innocence a majority of the cases where evidence didn't suffice.

Being caught red handed with guns blazing is hardly an example by any stretch of the imagination! In real world where the truth counts. You can't change the truth, no matter how you try to disguise it. You're as credible as OJ Simpson when that glove wouldn't fit. Totally devoid of any credibility. No amount of evidence in the world would suffice for you no matter absurd it makes you look. You'd deny Hasan had any guilt even if he strapped you on his back and took you along for the ride as he shot those soldiers.

If your alliance was with our constitution, I would have seen you as being rather vocal against Obama for firing a GM CEO, attempting to silence freedom of the press, attempting to join international agreements that would forfeit our constitutional rights and pushing to grow our government and destroy free trade. None of that was the goal of the constitution! You are a far left neo marxist and nothing more. And I'm sure you were quite vocal when Dems in congress were prepared to single out AIG execs receiving bonuses and illegally tax it all back from them right? Right?

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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I'll respond to both of your posts with this.

[FKLBRLS]

Oh. So you agree that Obama was dead wrong to interfere with the sovereign rights of Honduras to remove a president who was attempting to become a dictator?

And you fully agree that as the constitution is against inciting riots, it's fully against inciting the murder of our citizens. You can't possibly be so stupid as to think our lawmakers and found founding fathers contributed to our governing document with no regard to protecting American citizens. That's what laws are designed for. With out them there is no society.

We already have a president whose steps to grow government and empower his unelected Czars to control our lives and businesses are impossible not to notice. The Dems already made it clear who has the power, so who will we blame when Obama joines his beloved dictating colleagues in a quest for complete and lasting power?

Obama's egomaniacal speech to the Olympic committee says it all. I I I I I

I didn't know the USA was the the United States of Obama. There's NOTHING Democratic or constitutional about left wing fascism. Every chance every good American has to be politically incorrect should be seized in the name of freedom such as the freedom of speech.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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You're confusing fundamental rights of common law and constitutionally protected rights. OTOH, what's the point on having rights that can't be enforced and which will not be respected by anyone, especially government? Would you like to have a dictator, or a President and a democratic system of government?

[FKLBRLS]

Now if only you were an attorney. You'd make a fair actor, but an excellent politician. The difference being that as an actor you aren't totally convincing and as a liar you'd fit perfectly in Washington. Hell, you could say you were a community activist and take the oval office.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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I already do enough pro-bono work.
You want specificity, examples and evidence of work. Ok. Get your checkbook. I'll need a 9,000.00 retainer. My hourly rate is $375.00/hr.

[FKLBRLS]

You claim to be a lawyer and yet you dare to claim abortion is a constitutional right? It's not written into the constitution anywhere nor is your mythical right to murder. The spin on a child not being born yet is utterly nauseating and shows how mentally out of touch you really are. What about the once who pop out of the womb in a botched murder attempt and then are left to die? They're now out in the open "on US soil" so to speak. Do they forfeight their rights as Americans? Or do the doctors who leave them to die or the neglectful mothers pay the price?

Are you really that bent on murder that you support partial birth abortions in a hope to kill them before they escape? Are mother's womb's stalog 13 with nazi doctors in guard towers ready to gun down attempting escapees?

You're right though. Enough about murder. That isn't what this topic is about. Oh wait a minute, yes it is.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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I'll be the first to protect the unborn of a woman who wants to carry the pregnancy to term. If she doesn't, then I'll protect her constitutional right. Seeing as only U.S. Citizens are protected under the Constitution and to be a U.S. Citizen you have to either be born or naturalized in the U.S., I say that leaves the unborn out of luck regarding constitutional protection.
Besides, you want to talk about abortion, let's go to the abortion threads. Not here.

[FKLBRLS]

Do you want everyone to comb over your posts for spelling mistakes or should you drop that condescending hypocritical tactic? Maybe you weren't bright enough to realize that spelling doesn't diminish the message being delivered and on blog that's all that matters. Typos are commonplace and especially when you're tired. Do you really want people slamming on you for such petty things? It's no wonder why so many on the far left get the reputation of being elitists. What a pitiful way to go through life.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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Say the Truth; you want to correct the spelling errors or should I?
TS; let's make sure you're in place with a gun loaded to shoot at point blank range the next guy who does. Ok? You want to fix the problem? Then be part of the solution, or STFU!

[FKLBRLS]

Go back and read Conservative Democrat's views on the victims. He wants to question whether they're saints. It's a twisted morality that must be questioned. How did our society come to question the victims over the killers? It's not a like a case where a child was beaten by his/her father and killed in self defense. Hasan plotted this and meant to do harm in the name of his religion based on radical indoctrination. Radical being the key word as the average Muslim isn't guilty for what a radical does.

All CD is showing you is that the left cares far more about those bent on ending your life than your life. Hasan says "We love death more than you love life". CD wants you to know that he loves murderers,especially Isalmic Jihadists, more than you love their innocent victims. And he's wrong, but perhaps as member of the far left, he's only trying to protect a non existent freedom... the freedom of murder. Where every murderer should be viewed as innocent no matter how much evidence amounts to show his guilt like being caught in the act.

So he's offended that you would want to to strip Hasan of it.

DeeSee wrote:

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I am sorry but some people do not deserve to be defended. This man purposely killed 13 people under the guise of religion. Are we honestly going to be defending people that do things like murder all in the name of whatever they believe it. Where is the defense for the poor innocent that are killed. We must ensure that more innocent people that are noble enough to serve our country are treated better than the likes of this man.

[Blk Independent]

Tama Samoa wrote:

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You call it baseless rhetoric and you don't even know me? Yet Obama has given so many emty promises which translate to empty rhetoric and you can't recognise that?
Are you just stupid or tood stupid to recognise who is the enemy and who is not?
Anyone who scream out "allah akbar" with explosives or guns is a muslim terrorist and deserves a bullet in da head and thats how you fix that problem.

What does that make the man that went into the Church and Killed Tiler?

This incident as it now stands is nothing more than Work Place Violence which has a common frequency here in America. Daily there is some nut killing peers in an Work Enviornment.

How do you seperate the two? There are legal definitions to confirm acts of Terrorism, this has not met those definitions as of yet. This is not the first mental health professoinal in America that's gone off his rocker and lets not fool ourselves to believe historically the military has not performed very well in treating our troops for mental health illnesses.

Recently there's been reports of a rash of military sucides, domestic abuse, and other violent acts of aggression by returning troops this has been playing itself out for a number of years recently. Let's not act like Walter Reed is a cutting edge Medical Facility, prior to the elections there was an investigation launched as to the conditions of Walter Reed Hospital, and if how we treat mental health illness in the dominant society is any indication, we aren't treating our troops and veteran for the illness they suffer.

Stop making things up people. We used to call what Hasan did, Going Postal and it became a national joke... How did anyone forget about this?

[Blk Independent]

FKLBRLS wrote:

Oh. So you agree that Obama was dead wrong to interfere with the sovereign rights of Honduras to remove a president who was attempting to become a dictator?
And you fully agree that as the constitution is against inciting riots, it's fully against inciting the murder of our citizens. You can't possibly be so stupid as to think our lawmakers and found founding fathers contributed to our governing document with no regard to protecting American citizens. That's what laws are designed for. With out them there is no society.
We already have a president whose steps to grow government and empower his unelected Czars to control our lives and businesses are impossible not to notice. The Dems already made it clear who has the power, so who will we blame when Obama joines his beloved dictating colleagues in a quest for complete and lasting power?
Obama's egomaniacal speech to the Olympic committee says it all. I I I I I
I didn't know the USA was the the United States of Obama. There's NOTHING Democratic or constitutional about left wing fascism. Every chance every good American has to be politically incorrect should be seized in the name of freedom such as the freedom of speech.
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This is as juvenile an argument against abortion as I've ever heard. There is no definition that supports the argument of outlawing abortion but reserving the right to put to death murders.

There is something fundamentally flawed with those theories in my opinion.

I am not a proponent of Abortion, but I don't feel qualified to restrict a women from her right to choose, that's a constitution guarantee, not always respected but it's a right.

When does life begin is relative, those same people that look to the science on when life begins, ignores science when it comes to justification for environmental issues.

[FKLBRLS]

Sounds really simple doesn't it? It makes the man who killed Tiler a nut with guiding him down the path and no radical ideology driving him to kill. If there are any pastors or priests in this country openly calling on their parishoners to murder other Americans over abortiona clinics. Then I'd love to see them jailed or removed from their churches.

It's wonderful to make it all random when it's not. But it is clear Hasan was in idividual and had to make the decision he was indoctrinated towards on his own. Just like every suicide bomber and every one of those 9/11 hijackers, even if they acted together. What was the name of the last mass murdering Military pscyhologist who cried out Allah Akbar? It's true though that psychologists are people to. You'd just think that all that psychiatric training could be of use to them to.

Blk Independent wrote:

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What does that make the man that went into the Church and Killed Tiler?
This incident as it now stands is nothing more than Work Place Violence which has a common frequency here in America. Daily there is some nut killing peers in an Work Enviornment.
How do you seperate the two? There are legal definitions to confirm acts of Terrorism, this has not met those definitions as of yet. This is not the first mental health professoinal in America that's gone off his rocker and lets not fool ourselves to believe historically the military has not performed very well in treating our troops for mental health illnesses.
Recently there's been reports of a rash of military sucides, domestic abuse, and other violent acts of aggression by returning troops this has been playing itself out for a number of years recently. Let's not act like Walter Reed is a cutting edge Medical Facility, prior to the elections there was an investigation launched as to the conditions of Walter Reed Hospital, and if how we treat mental health illness in the dominant society is any indication, we aren't treating our troops and veteran for the illness they suffer.
Stop making things up people. We used to call what Hasan did, Going Postal and it became a national joke... How did anyone forget about this?

[FKLBRLS]

Of course not. Terminating a life shouldn't be a restricted thing now should it? There's nothing flawed about fact. Every abortion ends a human life. But hey, if gives you any comfort, I'm not here to discuss abortion and I'm not at issue with abortion in the case of a mother's life and rape. And hey, when a baby is out of the womb, please come again about a mother's body and her right to choose? Does that tie in with "I brought you into this world and I can take you out too"? Literally....

Blk Independent wrote:

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This is as juvenile an argument against abortion as I've ever heard. There is no definition that supports the argument of outlawing abortion but reserving the right to put to death murders.
There is something fundamentally flawed with those theories in my opinion.
I am not a proponent of Abortion, but I don't feel qualified to restrict a women from her right to choose, that's a constitution guarantee, not always respected but it's a right.
When does life begin is relative, those same people that look to the science on when life begins, ignores science when it comes to justification for environmental issues.

[waiting]

cant wait for the execution, of this filthy goat loving muslim! May he burn a million times in hell!

[Where to start]

waiting wrote:

cant wait for the execution, of this filthy goat loving muslim! May he burn a million times in hell!

Look at this pic of obozo!
LMAO!
http://leftwingnuts.blogspot.com/2009/11/nice...

[pinebeetle]

Where to start wrote:

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Look at this pic of obozo!
LMAO!
http://leftwingnuts.blogspot.com/2009/11/nice...

the bastard will be but a bad memory.

[Say the Truth]

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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Damn! I guess I'll really go hungry now. Should I surrender my professional license and close up my accounts also?
If you call being held prisoner without a formal charge and under a made up term, such as "enemy combatant," and being tortured for information a constitutional protection, then of course we can say that non U.S. Citizens have protections under our Constitution.

"Should I surrender my professional license and close up my accounts also? "

That's my advice. You'll be doing the public a service.

If you don't like the term "enemy combatant" how about "spy" or "saboteur?"

You know what happens to those types during wartime.