State Senate approves limited unpaste...

State Senate approves limited unpasteurized milk sales

There are 35 comments on the WisInfo story from Apr 16, 2010, titled State Senate approves limited unpasteurized milk sales. In it, WisInfo reports that:

MADISON - Wisconsin farmers could sell raw, unpasteurized milk for the next two years directly to consumers under a bill passed Thursday by the state Senate.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WisInfo.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Since: Apr 10

Omaha, NE

#21 Apr 23, 2010
Here's a good read from Boston where you can already buy it.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/ar...
bob

United States

#22 Apr 23, 2010
Stereotypes, small, large, mega, corporate, Mom and pop. 93% of all farms are family owned, i'm one of them. You want raw milk, buy your own cow. If it's to b sold it should always b pasteurized. If it weren't for lawyers i'd say "you get sick it's not my problem" but that'll never happen.
bob

United States

#23 Apr 23, 2010
Spalding wrote:
Here's a good read from Boston where you can already buy it.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/ar...
good article, thank you. I'm all for choices. I hate neighbor and government involvement. In this instance i'm more afraid of bad pr and lawsuits. look what 1 mad cow imported from Canada did to the U.S. beef industry. those were 1 in 9,000,000 odds that a dairy cow would get infected. Buy your own cow

Since: Apr 10

Omaha, NE

#24 Apr 23, 2010
Small, Large, Mega, Corporate aren't stereotypes. They are sizes.

And again you’re right. Most farms are owned by an individual family. But there is a big difference between Dad and his 2 sons working 50 head and Owner and his 2 employees working 500 head. You’re the first farmer I know that works out. The job is a workout by itself. No need to supplement.

I'm just not getting your issue here. No one is saying you can't continue just like you are. Same old, same old. The rest of us that like straight from the tap milk can now get straight from the tap milk. If you’re not selling it then you don't have to worry about lawyers. It's like you’re afraid of giving the little guy a chance again.

Since: Apr 10

Omaha, NE

#25 Apr 23, 2010
I can understand the PR fears. But many products have been recalled and all are still being sold. Even Toyota hasn't gone under yet. White Castle survived an e-coli scare but on the other hand Chi-Chi's didn't.

Worst case scenerio in my head from an industry standpoint is raw milk gets pulled from the market again. And everyone goes back to the way it was.
bob

United States

#26 Apr 23, 2010
Spalding wrote:
I can understand the PR fears. But many products have been recalled and all are still being sold. Even Toyota hasn't gone under yet. White Castle survived an e-coli scare but on the other hand Chi-Chi's didn't.
Worst case scenerio in my head from an industry standpoint is raw milk gets pulled from the market again. And everyone goes back to the way it was.
In the mean time it costs industries millions in lost revenue untill "everyone goes back to the way it was" 3 pitchers of whole raw milk have over 5,000 calories in it. good luck eating 3 meals a day with it and keeping your lean 6-4 frame. our family milks 5,000 cows, we're a small family farm compared to the neighbor who milks 12,000 cows. We make $500,000+/yr, we're poor compared to Bill Gates
bob

United States

#27 Apr 23, 2010
Spalding wrote:
Small, Large, Mega, Corporate aren't stereotypes. They are sizes.
And again you’re right. Most farms are owned by an individual family. But there is a big difference between Dad and his 2 sons working 50 head and Owner and his 2 employees working 500 head. You’re the first farmer I know that works out. The job is a workout by itself. No need to supplement.
I'm just not getting your issue here. No one is saying you can't continue just like you are. Same old, same old. The rest of us that like straight from the tap milk can now get straight from the tap milk. If you’re not selling it then you don't have to worry about lawyers. It's like you’re afraid of giving the little guy a chance again.
all the farmers you know are all thin because they work their asses off? hard to believe.
bob

United States

#28 Apr 23, 2010
Spalding wrote:
Small, Large, Mega, Corporate aren't stereotypes. They are sizes.
And again you’re right. Most farms are owned by an individual family. But there is a big difference between Dad and his 2 sons working 50 head and Owner and his 2 employees working 500 head. You’re the first farmer I know that works out. The job is a workout by itself. No need to supplement.
I'm just not getting your issue here. No one is saying you can't continue just like you are. Same old, same old. The rest of us that like straight from the tap milk can now get straight from the tap milk. If you’re not selling it then you don't have to worry about lawyers. It's like you’re afraid of giving the little guy a chance again.
what's the difference between 2 kids milking 50 cows or 2 paid kids milking 500 cows?
Spalding

AOL

#29 Apr 24, 2010
You find it hard to believe that farmers work hard or that they are thin? To answer both. Yes real farmers work their tails off everyday. And yes the majority of farmers are thin. In fact the only overweight farmers I know got that way after they had retired.

1. 450 Cows.
2. The sons are going to take more pride in doing the job right. The employees just want their paychecks.
3. Sons tend to do what the old man says. Employees tend to do it when the boss is watching.
bob

United States

#30 Apr 24, 2010
i'm sorry but unless you're directly involved in the business i just don't think you can judge or make comparisons. Bottom line here is that someone will get sick, someone will sue, someone will call the media. The headlines won't read "improperly handled raw milk, makes elderly person sick" and it'll only effect me, the farmer not u,the consumer. You'll b able to drink something else untill "everyone goes back to the way it was" i don't sell orange juice, only milk.

Since: Apr 10

Omaha, NE

#31 Apr 26, 2010
Welcome to a democracy. Everyone has a say. I've been directly involved in the business as a consumer, farm boy and cheese maker. My family is still directly involved from farming to cheese making to haulers. So I call myself involved in the business. All you have is a fear that after thousands of years people are all of a sudden going to stop drinking milk. I'll tell ya what. Give me 1 food that people stopped consuming after a recall and I'll concede the argument.
bob

United States

#32 Apr 26, 2010
Spalding wrote:
Welcome to a democracy. Everyone has a say. I've been directly involved in the business as a consumer, farm boy and cheese maker. My family is still directly involved from farming to cheese making to haulers. So I call myself involved in the business. All you have is a fear that after thousands of years people are all of a sudden going to stop drinking milk. I'll tell ya what. Give me 1 food that people stopped consuming after a recall and I'll concede the argument.
If you were a dairy farmer you would know that a 50 cow dairy farm, in a good year, only clears about $25,ooo. How do you feed a father and 2 sons on that. Double that with a niche product and that's still not enough. milk is milk, you're tring to make raw milk cheese? does it taste better or does it have magical healing powers?
bob

United States

#33 Apr 26, 2010
Spalding wrote:
Welcome to a democracy. Everyone has a say. I've been directly involved in the business as a consumer, farm boy and cheese maker. My family is still directly involved from farming to cheese making to haulers. So I call myself involved in the business. All you have is a fear that after thousands of years people are all of a sudden going to stop drinking milk. I'll tell ya what. Give me 1 food that people stopped consuming after a recall and I'll concede the argument.
not democracy, socialism. It took yrs to rebound from the beef scare 0f 2001, 4 small local feedlots whent bankrupt. There are 1 million too many cows in the today. the only way to maintain or increase demand is with exports. we need to maintain milks status as a SAFE product. The Japanese still don't import as much beef after the mad cow scare.
bob

United States

#34 Apr 26, 2010
Spalding wrote:
Who's bashing your industry? No one has said stop selling pasteurized milk. No one has said stop farming. Again you’re right. All industries are looking for niche markets. Why shouldn't the Wisconsin farm capitalize on that? Something tells me you are a large commercial farmer and you are afraid this will give the family farm a leg to stand on.
what's wrong with pasteurized milk?
Sister

Saluda, SC

#36 Jul 14, 2011
bob wrote:
It's always about money. People want to carve out niche markets to charge a little more so they come up with "all natural" "small" "family" "local" "amish"then they have "organic" taken it 1 step further with raw. What's next "extra terrestrial free? Conventional milk is safe and healthy. Stop bashing my industry.
U have know idea what u are talking about. I don't need a nanny/regulatory agency telling me what my family can consume. Hell , one can't even buy spinich anymore without getting sick. It's called FREEDOM buddy!!!!! I buy from local farms! Mansato can kiss my ass! Been drinking raw milk a long time, never been sick a day in my life, until I read your post. Lol

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Beloit Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Paul Ryan is a traitor to every breathing Ameri... Sep 17 Wicked Witch 2
Paul Ryan blocked the wall. Sep 13 Nationalist 1
News Mills Fleet Farm planned for old Delavan dog track Sep 12 Dan 1
Need help Sep 6 Conlee 3
Paul Ryan supports DACA Sep 1 real 2
News Ryan's Primary Opponent: 'Why Do We Have Muslim... (Aug '16) Sep 1 Joe Barrett 5
News Ryan sought stimulus funds while decrying program (Aug '12) Aug '17 Approval ratings ... 122

Beloit Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Beloit Mortgages