Which new grocery store should come t...

Which new grocery store should come to Belmont?

Created by Frogman on Oct 29, 2007

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Food Lion

Harris Teeter

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Since: Oct 07

Albemarle, NC

#1 Oct 29, 2007
Here is a reprint of a recent article in the Charlotte Observer. It's talking about the new Belmont Town Center across from South Point High School. Apparently, the developer said a Harris Teeter was coming, but now it's looking like Food Lion instead.

"by REBECCA SULOCK, Charlotte Observer
Here at Latest Developments, we were delighted to receive our first reader question last week.

Nick Carson wrote to ask whatís happening with the Belmont Town Center development planned across from South Point High School.

We thought that was a good question, especially considering all the discussion about the traffic impact of putting a grocery store and retail center across from a high school. We didnít just think that because he flattered our previous columns, either.

Detailed plans for the center should come to Belmontís planning department in November, said senior planner Adrian Miller.

Rumor has it the grocery store will be a Food Lion, despite neighborhood lobbying efforts for a Harris Teeter. Thatís from a conversation we had with the mayor two months ago.

The mixed-use development will be on 34 acres at South Point Road and R.L. Stowe Road, and will likely include 109 homes, a 48,000-square-foot grocery store, a 20,000-square-foot retail space, a bank, a drugstore and three other stores.

Farther down South Point Road, Charlotte developer Lockard Reed has submitted early plans for a 223-home development at Henry Chapel Road, Miller said. Belmontís planning department is looking at the project and will send suggestions back to the developer ó the next step would be for Lockard Reed to bring more details to the planning board."

Comments or feedback anyone?

Since: Oct 07

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#2 Oct 30, 2007
I was sorry to see Harris Teeter leave Belmont. I'd love to see it come back. I discussed the issue with HT when they left. It's basically a market decision. They look at demographics and other stores in the area. Grocery business is cut-throat! LOL. HT is a great store - I grew up with it. Come on back to Belmont!
Frogman

Rockingham, NC

#3 Oct 31, 2007
If anyone else wants Harris Teeter to come back to Belmont, I would strongly suggest you contact them and let them know at:

https://www.harristeeter.com/default.aspx...

If enough folks let them know, they could change their mind and come back at some point. Still love Food Lion, just want some variety!

Since: Oct 07

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#4 Oct 31, 2007
My thoughts are this is not Food Lion's or Harris Teeter's decision. Wouldn't it be the developer/owner's decision who the tenant will be? It's whoever cut the best deal with them. Business, I guess. I'm sure Food Lion will close that store on the hill - too many robberies there and the store needs an uplift. Still - wish HT could have moved into the old Winn Dixie location ( though I do like Aldi's sometimes).
Frogman

Rockingham, NC

#5 Oct 31, 2007
You mean if you owned Harris Teeter you would let developers tell you where to build your stores??? How can it NOT be their decision, when their the ones leasing the stores. The developer can only court the tenants, they have to want to come and it MIGHT help if we let them know they are wanted here.

Also, when a developer promises us Harris Teeter and gives you Food Lion (bait and switch), the city council should do something about it. After all, would the project have been approved so quickly if they were honest and told us that they were planning on relocating Food Lion to a better location and leaving us a Big Empty Box beside NAPA?

I think they knew exactly what they were doing!

Since: Oct 07

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#6 Oct 31, 2007
If Harris Teeter does not own the land they cannot tell a developer to make them let them in. HT has very picky criteria based on demographics and square footage anyway. The owner of the site will decide who the tenant is. If Food Lion made a more lucrative deal with the developer, they get the lease. I don't like it anymore than you do but that's business. I guarantee you if HT really wanted to be there, they would have cut the deal. The grocery business is very cut throat.

It's the developer that could have done you "bait and switch"...but they can't guarantee a council who the tenants will be. We have a free market - not socilism

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#7 Oct 31, 2007
Hey frogman- here's a more important question than which store is there... did the people of that neighborhood WANT a grocery store there? If so, fine. If not, council should have listened to them and acted accordingly with zoning. I don't live in that area so I don't know. The larger problem is this - forcing development that ruins the quality of life for the neighbors.
Frogman

Rockingham, NC

#8 Oct 31, 2007
Wrong forum Nugeme.

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#9 Oct 31, 2007
You just don't like me and want to fuss. What makes that childish is we generally agree on the topic. OK - this is your little sandbox - we'll see who is coming to play with you. LOL. Silly. I'm sorry you don't want a civil discussion. Have it your way.
Frogman

Rockingham, NC

#10 Oct 31, 2007
Nugeme, your like that friend of mine in high school that I didn't like, but he was still my only friend, so your kind of right, again.

While we do agree on some things, we still disagree on alot. Doesn't mean we can't get along though. I'll try to be nicer to you from now on. OK.

Since: Oct 07

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#11 Oct 31, 2007
always willing....

Since: Oct 07

Rockingham, NC

#12 Nov 1, 2007
Back to the issue at hand...

Over at www.gastonpolitics.com , Irl Dixon has shed some light on this subject. Read the quote below and see page 3 of the web link for the full quote and question leading to his response at:

http://www.gastonpolitics.com/MessageBoard/De...

*Beginning of Quote*

This developer usually does little town centers for Harris Teeter and Eckerd's as I was told. He put this deal together thinking either Harris Teeter or Lowe's would be the anchor. So far the last thing I heard was that both had turned him down after he bought the property.

Representatives from the City met with some Harris Teeter people about 2 months ago. I think Mayor Boyce was there but don't hold me to that statemment. The Planning Department provided HT with demographics showing how the area was right for a store of their type. That means the area residents have incomes to support an HT. In other words, we were trying to recruit them to come. I was told HT said they would love to be here after the residential construction was finished in the surrounding area. It's my understanding they were told how we were going to the Town Center concept and if they didn't come now, they may lose their chance. So far, no luck.

I am being told Food Lion is ready to come but it won't be your everyday FL. It's their new upscale concept called Bloom. I think one just opened in the Davidson/Cornelius area. Let's hope that's what happens. It could be just one more rumor. I'd hate to see a run of the mill FL out there and I'm sure the residents don't want it either. No, I don't think the developer was playing us. He's probably losing a lot of money.

Irl Dixon

*End of Quote**

Thanks for that update Irl! Hopefully we can get a Bloom or similar store and keep the other Food Lion as well!

Frogman (trying to stay of topic)
mar

Auburn, AL

#13 Nov 28, 2007
I have heard the bloom in cornelius has a nice selection of organic foods. Not sure if that is true, but I'm hoping so if they plan on coming here. The trek to Earthfare is getting old.
Insight

Rockingham, NC

#14 Dec 13, 2007
Going with Harris Teeter on this one...how nice would that be?
the dude

Charlotte, NC

#15 Dec 14, 2007
irl, that is exactly the situation. he done a ht in university area. that's the point. he doesn't have a anchor. every center has to have that anchor for the other retail to make dollar sense. the grocery gets a 15 yr sweetheart with all others doing the heavy lifting. he simply has to have a anchor for it to work. working with realty depts takes time. he has to get someone for it to start. point is, nobody is charging over that building hill right now.

the most interesting thing about this project is how a certain family trust of a certain DOT official had the foresight to grossly overpay for a piece of property across the street from this property. anyone betting some road modifications in the high school area are on somebody's desk.

aahhhh, the rich getter richer through a free market system. they have promised to clean up DOT after years of scandal but the ineffectiveness of their efforts only detail how crooked the system is. reference birkdale and ballantyne.
the dude

Charlotte, NC

#16 Dec 14, 2007
also, the town center property is NOT conducive to commercial development. it is watershed with stormwater concerns. it has to be heavily buffered with stormwater controls in place. this reduces the amount of land to be developed. a retail center is dependent on impervious land. huge parking lots similar to wal-mart. plus they have creeks running right through the property which must be engineered to allow for ground water filtration and natural flow. in short, don't be messing with my creeks or a picture will be taken and emailed within a 24 hour period to my govt agency friends. time is running out my greedy friends with only another year to run through everything you can imagine that bends the environmental regulations.

lesson for developer. make your purchase contracts contingent.
Peanut

Charlotte, NC

#17 Feb 13, 2008
I'll live with the decision (though a lowes food would be nice); I'm waiting for a Domino's and a Starbucks to set up shop!

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#18 Feb 14, 2008
Peanut - Holy Grounds at the Abbey sells Starbucks products.
Paul

Charlotte, NC

#19 May 5, 2008
nugeme wrote:
Peanut - Holy Grounds at the Abbey sells Starbucks products.
Its not the same though.. Starbucks needs to come to Gastonia.

Since: Oct 07

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#20 May 5, 2008
addendum - Mt. Holly Dominos delivers to my house in Belmont.

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