N.J. legislators inching toward overr...

N.J. legislators inching toward override of Christie's gay marriage veto

There are 7 comments on the NJ.com story from Sep 23, 2013, titled N.J. legislators inching toward override of Christie's gay marriage veto. In it, NJ.com reports that:

TRENTON - Under the din of a bustling election season, there's a quiet movement afoot to make gay marriage a reality in New Jersey by the end of the year.

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“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#1 Sep 23, 2013
Although I see no evidence that Cristie will take the opportunity, he has a chance to look reasonable to people on both sides of the issue.

He could come up with a statement strongly (1) affirming his belief in "traditional" marriage and (2) charging the legislature to let the people (or the courts) decide. He could add that, should 2/3 of the legislature disagree and approve marriage equality, he will implement the legislature's will without hesitation.

Thus he could vehemently oppose the marriage bill while ducking the fallout of loosing a major, politically charged issue. And he would cultivate his image of a reasonable public servant.

Alas, his actual response will probably be closer to Mitt Romney's response to the Massachusetts' Supreme Judicial Court. Too bad for him.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#2 Sep 23, 2013
I hope that the New Jersey Legislature passes a Marriage Equality bill with veto-proof majorities.

It's a shame that Christie is opposing marriage equality, and i don't understand why he is doing so. I do ot think he has any shot at higher office.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#3 Sep 23, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
I hope that the New Jersey Legislature passes a Marriage Equality bill with veto-proof majorities.
New Jersey has already passed a marriage equality bill, but not with a sufficient majority to override Cristie. We are now scouring the legislators for enough votes to override.

Unfortunately, Cristie is popular [or at least respected], even among most Democratic legislators. When Vermont was in a similar position, even Republicans who had voted against marriage equality voted to override for the simple joy of overriding Governor Douglas.
It's a shame that Christie is opposing marriage equality, and i don't understand why he is doing so. I do ot think he has any shot at higher office.
It doesn't matter whether you think Cristie has a shot at higher office or not. Cristie thinks he does. Moreover, if he wants to raise lots of money and be invited to speak at PAC's and conservative "think" tanks, he needs to be on the far-right side of this issue.

One can be a player in national politics without being President. He could also become a Senator, and he'd probably like his party leadership to appoint him to choice committees.
Sgt Common Sense

Denver, CO

#4 Sep 23, 2013
Who will be the next?
Four states are teetering on becoming number 14, NJ, HI, NM and IL.
(My vote, NM, as the case is already in their Supreme Court.)

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#5 Sep 23, 2013
Sgt Common Sense wrote:
Who will be the next?
Four states are teetering on becoming number 14, NJ, HI, NM and IL.
(My vote, NM, as the case is already in their Supreme Court.)
Probably New Mexico. I lived there for awhile, but it proved too cold for my liking.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#6 Sep 23, 2013
Sgt Common Sense wrote:
Who will be the next?
Four states are teetering on becoming number 14, NJ, HI, NM and IL.
(My vote, NM, as the case is already in their Supreme Court.)
Hearings are scheduled in NM Oct 23. But there is a vote of the HI legislature scheduled October 28. We'll know whether HI goes this year or not before NM issues a decision. The fall session in IL is already scheduled for Oct 22 and ends Nov 7. So we will know for sure whether equality comes to the Land of Lincoln soon, perhaps before HI. But I'm guessing later.

As for NJ, I really don't care for lame duck congresses enacting laws that they didn't have the gonads to enact before the election. But that's what they're talking about in NJ. Of course, everyone expects Cristie to win re-election in a huge landslide, which will make crossing him that much less desirable--especially for Republicans. The override, if it occurs, will happen after Nov 5. And that will be after the HI and IL legislatures make their decisions.

Assuming that all four states enact marriage equality, I expect the order to be HI IL NM NJ. Having three more equality states in 2013 could give a real boost to supporters in NJ.

Since: Mar 09

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#7 Sep 23, 2013
I see mid-term timing at work here.

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