Rockingham budget up less than 1 percent

The Selectboard is finishing up work on a 2012 budget that is just slightly higher than this year, but which is not expected to raise the municipal tax rate. Full Story

Since: May 10

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#1 Jan 1, 2011
Please keep in mind the contempt for the voters shown by the Selectboard members who ignored the will of the people who voted to restore the funds needed to fund the three positions. Despite overwhelming support for keeping those positions, the Selectboard thumbed their collective noses at the voters and cut the positions anyway. The lack of daily maintenance at the Town Hall is evidence of their "penny wise, pound foolish" attitude. Less obvious are the hidden costs of cutting the administrative support position and the town engineer, but the impact on operations is significant. When you go to the polls in March, remember who disrespected the voters and vote accordingly.
Yankee Guy

Walpole, NH

#2 Jan 1, 2011
Do the math !! If you kept the three people with salary and Beni's it would raise the budget another $150,000 !! Plus the overwhelming support looks like it came from the floor and the people in the system .
Spuds

Auburn, ME

#3 Jan 1, 2011
Yankee Guy wrote:
Do the math !! If you kept the three people with salary and Beni's it would raise the budget another $150,000 !! Plus the overwhelming support looks like it came from the floor and the people in the system .
Dozens vote at the meetings and thousands stay home and complain. There are a lot more cuts that could be made but the people in the system stand to benefit the most so the meeting rooms are lined with them. The same thing happens in the schools. Look at BF and Rockingham in the past. Taxes were a lot lower and the economy was a lot better. It doesn't take a economics major to see what they are doing isn't working.

Since: May 10

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#4 Jan 1, 2011
Spuds wrote:
<quoted text>Dozens vote at the meetings and thousands stay home and complain. There are a lot more cuts that could be made but the people in the system stand to benefit the most so the meeting rooms are lined with them. The same thing happens in the schools. Look at BF and Rockingham in the past. Taxes were a lot lower and the economy was a lot better. It doesn't take a economics major to see what they are doing isn't working.
It is a lot easier to sit back and complain about what is wrong and what isn't "working" than it is to step up and make positive suggestions, offer to contribute your time, energy and hard work or actually run for office if you are not content with the status quo. Don't criticize those who are willing to go and argue for the things that they support [including their jobs] if you are not willing to get involved and do the same. On a local level, you can make a difference if you care enough.

Since: May 10

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#5 Jan 1, 2011
Yankee Guy wrote:
Do the math !! If you kept the three people with salary and Beni's it would raise the budget another $150,000 !! Plus the overwhelming support looks like it came from the floor and the people in the system .
My bet is that if it were VT Yankee positions that were at stake, the outcry would have been deafening. The Selectboard put the cost @$125,000.00, not the voters. The vote was to restore $125,000.00 to the budget so the positions could be reinstated, not $150,000.00. The Selectboard should know what the positions cost, but the point remains that they blatantly blew off the intent and direction of the voters. There needs to be consequences of ignoring the will of the voters who elected them.
Spuds

Underhill, VT

#6 Jan 1, 2011
Dinty Moore wrote:
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My bet is that if it were VT Yankee positions that were at stake, the outcry would have been deafening. The Selectboard put the cost @$125,000.00, not the voters. The vote was to restore $125,000.00 to the budget so the positions could be reinstated, not $150,000.00. The Selectboard should know what the positions cost, but the point remains that they blatantly blew off the intent and direction of the voters. There needs to be consequences of ignoring the will of the voters who elected them.
If they are reelected, one could argue that they prevailed because they were following the will of the larger electorate and not a few dozen blowhards that draw a municipal paycheck and dominate the theater floor. We all have a responsibility to bring our suggestions to the floor and to criticize the elected leaders. We do not have a responsibility to run for office. That is impossible. There are only five seats on the board and the deck is pretty well stacked against conservatives.
Spuds

Underhill, VT

#7 Jan 1, 2011
Rip out the street lights and fire the janitor. It's
not what I would have cut, but that's what happens when progressives try to conserve. They curse the darkness and live in filth!
Spuds

Underhill, VT

#8 Jan 1, 2011
Look what's going on in NYC with the union workers there. Mounds of garbage and dereliction in the heart of progressive America, because they don't like tightening there belts.
I told you

Auburn, ME

#9 Jan 1, 2011
Dinty Moore wrote:
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My bet is that if it were VT Yankee positions that were at stake, the outcry would have been deafening. The Selectboard put the cost @$125,000.00, not the voters. The vote was to restore $125,000.00 to the budget so the positions could be reinstated, not $150,000.00. The Selectboard should know what the positions cost, but the point remains that they blatantly blew off the intent and direction of the voters. There needs to be consequences of ignoring the will of the voters who elected them.
You make little case for your position; the reality is that private sector jobs make public sector jobs possible.

http://www.vermonttiger.com/content/2010/06/w...

State of Working Vermont 2010
The last decade’s policies have not led to needed job creation. It’s time for a new strategy

By Jack Hoffman

Download a PDF of the report or read the text below:

The Great Recession tightened its grip on Vermont in 2009. For the first year of the crisis, 2008, the state’s private employers shed jobs at an average rate of 475 a month. In 2009, the pace quickened, and an average of 675 private sector jobs disappeared monthly. Even though the recession officially ended a year and a half ago, today Vermont has 13,500 fewer private sector jobs than it had when the recession started in December 2007.1
But the challenge facing Vermont is not just to restore the jobs lost in the last three years. The state’s economy was not producing enough jobs before the recession hit. In fact, from 2000 through 2007 Vermont was having its worst decade for job growth in the 70 years that records have been kept.

The immediate task is to get the economy moving again, so that Vermonters who lost jobs through no fault of their own can go back to work. But the state also needs to develop a new strategy to meet the demand for jobs over the long term. The policies of the last 10 years, both nationally and within Vermont, did not work. And if we look back even further, we can see that the majority of ordinary Vermonters—like the majority of people across the country—have seen little real improvement in their economic well-being in the last 30 or 35 years.

The economy is not governed by laws of nature. It is shaped by policies. If we make different decisions, we can achieve different—and better—results...

http://publicassets.org/publications/reports/...
Spuds

Underhill, VT

#10 Jan 1, 2011
Not to confuse anybody with common sense, but what "I Told You" said is true. For the government workers to pay themselves, without the private sector, they would have to be taxed at 100%. They would have to give all their pay back in taxes. Hey! Maybe we are on to something here! A tree can't feed for long off it's own roots.
get real

Pawlet, VT

#11 Jan 2, 2011
Maybe unicef will take over all these great wonderful jobs and it wont cost you anything.
most of these jobs are thankless and the only time you here from the public is when they dont like something
Yah Right

Bellows Falls, VT

#12 Jan 2, 2011
Ok, so voters added the funds for the positions the selectboard wanted to cut and they told us when they went ahead and cut the positions anyways, that this money would be used to reduce the tax burden this year. Well doesn't look like they saved a cent as we predicted. I remember McPhee saying they would go back and report to the voters on how they personnel changes actually worked out. As we suspected it saved us nothing and we still have a 40K deficit! Time to report out Selectboard!
Spuds

Underhill, VT

#13 Jan 2, 2011
Yah Right wrote:
Ok, so voters added the funds for the positions the selectboard wanted to cut and they told us when they went ahead and cut the positions anyways, that this money would be used to reduce the tax burden this year. Well doesn't look like they saved a cent as we predicted. I remember McPhee saying they would go back and report to the voters on how they personnel changes actually worked out. As we suspected it saved us nothing and we still have a 40K deficit! Time to report out Selectboard!
Hold their feet to the fire. The budget should go down not up, even 1%. People are struggling. Regulations and taxes are unattractive to new businesses. Cuts need to be made in upper management in the schools and town and village. Near new equipment should be purchased instead of brand new. The unions need to be eliminated from the system.

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