Irene brings worst flooding in century to Vermont

Aug 29, 2011 Full story: KIII 31

The remnants of Hurricane Irene turned placid rivers and streams into raging torrents across parts of Vermont and upstate New York on Monday, closing hundreds of roads, destroying dozens of bridges and cutting off entire communities in the worst flooding some areas have seen in a century.

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Jerry McElhatten

Hoytville, OH

#1 Aug 29, 2011
Was the Bartonsville covered bridge lost in the flood? Our family stayed at a cabin not far from there a few years ago and I believe it was on the Williams River.
Hope all in Bellows Falls and the area are safe and well.
Rita

Graniteville, VT

#2 Aug 29, 2011
The Hurricane of '38 brought a huge amount of flooding to this area. Was Irene worse than that?
stahdust

Brattleboro, VT

#3 Aug 30, 2011
Jerry McElhatten wrote:
Was the Bartonsville covered bridge lost in the flood? Our family stayed at a cabin not far from there a few years ago and I believe it was on the Williams River.
Hope all in Bellows Falls and the area are safe and well.
Gone...the video is viral replete with 4 letter words.
beaglesarecute

New York, NY

#4 Aug 30, 2011
My husband was shoveling mud yesterday on Flat Street. He said people are idiots - the mud has sewage in it and who knows what else. People were pushing baby strollers through it - people had on flip flops, sandals and bare feet. Is no one capable of independent thought - gee this might be bad for me? Maybe I should wear boots if I'm going down there.
really

Little Rock, AR

#5 Aug 31, 2011
Thinking a little dried sewage is not the end of the world. you have probley eaten worse I am sure.
really

Little Rock, AR

#6 Aug 31, 2011
But then again what do we know, the guy with the shovel and a phd said people are idiots....lol
beaglesarecute

New York, NY

#7 Aug 31, 2011
really wrote:
But then again what do we know, the guy with the shovel and a phd said people are idiots....lol
He was wearing boots, gloves, and a mask. Someone has to clean it up. You are the idiot. But you were probably there in your flip flops.
really

Little Rock, AR

#8 Aug 31, 2011
lol, touchy touchy, just making a point that it probley won't kill anybody, certainly not worth calling people idiots. maybe he should have informed them, they have no idea a sewer main broke.
Swimming in Spofford lake is more dangerous than walking down that dried road yesterday besides.
Mike Mulligan

Boston, MA

#9 Aug 31, 2011
We get more sick by our systems going haywire because we are too clean, than getting a little musty feces and other impurities going through our systems though our mouths every once in a while...

You should see how our brain is hard wired for disgust...

There is a whole thought stream we need bacteria and viruses jazzing the intensify of our immune our system...

Especially our kids need to be challenged by infectious agents...everyone needs to eat their fair share of dirt before they grow up...
beaglesarecute

New York, NY

#10 Aug 31, 2011
Mike Mulligan wrote:
We get more sick by our systems going haywire because we are too clean, than getting a little musty feces and other impurities going through our systems though our mouths every once in a while...
You should see how our brain is hard wired for disgust...
There is a whole thought stream we need bacteria and viruses jazzing the intensify of our immune our system...
Especially our kids need to be challenged by infectious agents...everyone needs to eat their fair share of dirt before they grow up...
So, you guys are taking your kids and grandkids down there to wade in it to jazz up their immune system. If not, then you're being very hyprocritical or just argumentative.
really

Little Rock, AR

#11 Aug 31, 2011
Actually just saying that it probley would not do anyone any harm in the amount that was there in that dried dirt.......I agree I would not walk around in it barefoot, but would have no problem walking there in my shoes or bringing a stroller down through there.....being that it was in fact dried I believe.......
Mike Mulligan

Boston, MA

#12 Aug 31, 2011
beaglesarecute wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you guys are taking your kids and grandkids down there to wade in it to jazz up their immune system. If not, then you're being very hyprocritical or just argumentative.
As long as you follow the five second rule!
Mike Mulligan

Boston, MA

#13 Aug 31, 2011
Mike Mulligan

Boston, MA

#14 Aug 31, 2011
I have zero worry about catching something in the mud and sediment with any of these floods...
beaglesarecute

New York, NY

#15 Aug 31, 2011
This is from the Huffington Post - there was a similar article on Fox but I knew you would think they were fear mongers.

One of these potentially unrecognized risks is what Patrick Breysse of Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health calls the "soupy mess," which is likely to flow down the streets in heavy populated areas. And dodging the risk of drowning in it may not be enough to stay safe.

Floodwaters can be contaminated by a wide array of toxins and pathogens in metropolitan areas, Breysse told HuffPost. Chemicals from cars, machinery, gas stations, dry cleaners, toxic waste dumps and oil distributors are just some of its likely ingredients. Pesticides, solvents and other household products stored in flooded basements and garages may also find their way into the mix.

"There are a lot of toxic substances that may be stored appropriately -- until there is flooding," said Knowlton. "The risk could be substantial."

Depending on what is in the water, chemicals can also penetrate through the skin and increase a person's future risk of cancer, added Breysse.

Indoor water hazards can be even worse. Indoor flooding or water intrusion due to roof damage can quickly lead to the growth of mold within spaces where people live and work.

Black mold, one of the more dangerous species of the fungi, is known to cause respiratory problems, particularly for people with asthma. New York City, which falls in Irene's path, has especially high rates of childhood asthma -- up to 12 times the national average in some neighborhoods.
jgadsden

Bellows Falls, VT

#16 Aug 31, 2011
Mike Mulligan wrote:
Especially our kids need to be challenged by infectious agents...everyone needs to eat their fair share of dirt before they grow up...
"Let me tell you a true story about immunization ok. When I was a little boy in New York city in the 1940's, we swam in the Hudson river. And it was filled with raw sewage! OK? We swam in raw sewage, you know, to cool off. And at that time the big fear was polio. Thousands of kids died from polio every year. But you know something? In my neighborhood no one ever got polio. No one! EVER! You know why? Cause WE SWAM IN RAW SEWAGE! It strengthened our immune system, the polio never had a prayer. We were tempered in raw shit!

So personally I never take any precautions against germs. I don't shy away from people who sneeze and cough. I don't wipe off the telephone, I don't cover the toilet seat, and if I drop food on the floor I pick it up and eat it!Even if I'm at side walk cafe! IN CALCUTTA! THE POOR SECTION! ON NEW YEARS MORNING DURING A SOCCER RIOT! And you know something? In spite of all the so called "risky behavior ".... I never get infections. I don't get em. I don't get colds, I don't get flu, I don't get headaches, I don't get upset stomach, And you know why? Cause I got a good strong immune system! And it gets a lot of practice!

My immune system is equipped with the biological equivalent of fully automatic military assault rifles, with night vision and laser scopes. And we have recently acquired phosphorous grenades, cluster bombs and anti personnel fragmentation mines. "

-G. Carlin
Mike Mulligan

Boston, MA

#17 Aug 31, 2011
Well, I am not saying we are infectious agent superman. I am saying we got a host of consumer products bombarding us that the world is dirty and filthy...your immune system is defective...buy our product. They create in our minds the world is more dirty that it actually is...

When you study our immune systems and our body's repair capabilities...god endowed us with spectacular miracle systems that maintains us...

And I go to the doctors and take their advice, take medicines they tell me too...I generally listen to what the doctors say also...
beaglesarecute

New York, NY

#18 Aug 31, 2011
jgadsden wrote:
<quoted text>
"Let me tell you a true story about immunization ok. When I was a little boy in New York city in the 1940's, we swam in the Hudson river. And it was filled with raw sewage! OK? We swam in raw sewage, you know, to cool off. And at that time the big fear was polio. Thousands of kids died from polio every year. But you know something? In my neighborhood no one ever got polio. No one! EVER! You know why? Cause WE SWAM IN RAW SEWAGE! It strengthened our immune system, the polio never had a prayer. We were tempered in raw shit!
So personally I never take any precautions against germs. I don't shy away from people who sneeze and cough. I don't wipe off the telephone, I don't cover the toilet seat, and if I drop food on the floor I pick it up and eat it!Even if I'm at side walk cafe! IN CALCUTTA! THE POOR SECTION! ON NEW YEARS MORNING DURING A SOCCER RIOT! And you know something? In spite of all the so called "risky behavior ".... I never get infections. I don't get em. I don't get colds, I don't get flu, I don't get headaches, I don't get upset stomach, And you know why? Cause I got a good strong immune system! And it gets a lot of practice!
My immune system is equipped with the biological equivalent of fully automatic military assault rifles, with night vision and laser scopes. And we have recently acquired phosphorous grenades, cluster bombs and anti personnel fragmentation mines. "
-G. Carlin
Guess that explains what is wrong with you. You must have picked up the lazy bug somewhere.
Mike Mulligan

Boston, MA

#19 Aug 31, 2011
Wonder if i will make it to 71 years old, haven't drank or did drugs since 1979, but got diabetes take pills for it, lots of them...

Carlin had a history of cardiac problems spanning several decades, including three heart attacks (in 1978, 1982 and 1991), an arrhythmia requiring an ablation procedure in 2003, and a significant episode of heart failure in late 2005. He twice underwent angioplasty to reopen narrowed arteries.[58] In early 2005 he entered a drug rehabilitation facility for treatment of addictions to alcohol and Vicodin.[59]

On June 22, 2008, Carlin was admitted to Saint John's Health Center in Santa Monica after experiencing chest pain, and he died later that day of heart failure. He was 71 years old.[60] His death occurred one week after his last performance at The Orleans Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. There were further shows on his itinerary.[22][61][62] In accordance with his wishes, he was cremated, his ashes scattered, and no public or religious services of any kind were held.[63][64
Skeptic

Brattleboro, VT

#20 Aug 31, 2011
beaglesarecute wrote:
My husband was shoveling mud yesterday on Flat Street. He said people are idiots - the mud has sewage in it and who knows what else. People were pushing baby strollers through it - people had on flip flops, sandals and bare feet. Is no one capable of independent thought - gee this might be bad for me? Maybe I should wear boots if I'm going down there.
I don't think there was any sewage in it and if there was sewage from the broken pipe in West B it would be so diluted that it would not be dangerous.

The solution to pollution is dilution.

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