BF mulls charging town for police, fire

BF mulls charging town for police, fire

There are 41 comments on the Brattleboro Reformer story from Nov 30, 2010, titled BF mulls charging town for police, fire. In it, Brattleboro Reformer reports that:

The village wants to charge the town of Rockingham, and the schools in town, for police and fire protection.

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7th Generation Vermonter

Cuttingsville, VT

#1 Nov 30, 2010
If village wants to play games then I say we start charging everyone who lives in B.F to use the Library no more free Library cards for B.F. Residents or using the library for meetings ect.And charge a higher rate for the kids in the Village to go to Rockingham Schools.We have one of the highest,if not the highest Special Ed.budgets in the state of Vermont in our schools. What % of those kids are from the village? Charge them more to go to Rockingham Town Schools.
Mike Kobel

United States

#2 Nov 30, 2010
Absolutely ridiculous! You elected officials can try to sugar coat and disguise this any way that you wish. The real deal here is that one way or another it's the local tax payer that is going to end up paying in the end. You can all diguise it as billing each other for services to save the taxes payers money, but what is really happening is you or put up a big mural of fiscal responsibilty trying to distract the local people from how you are just going to take more hard earned money from them. No matter how you look at it, in the end it will still be us paying the tab!
In Afghanistan

United States

#3 Nov 30, 2010
Mike Kobel wrote:
Absolutely ridiculous! You elected officials can try to sugar coat and disguise this any way that you wish. The real deal here is that one way or another it's the local tax payer that is going to end up paying in the end. You can all diguise it as billing each other for services to save the taxes payers money, but what is really happening is you or put up a big mural of fiscal responsibilty trying to distract the local people from how you are just going to take more hard earned money from them. No matter how you look at it, in the end it will still be us paying the tab!
Thatís right Mike. You should know by now that BF is not trying to balance a budget or cut back the taxes. They always look for a way to generate new tax money to spend, spend and spend some more.

Since: May 10

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#4 Nov 30, 2010
7th Generation Vermonter wrote:
If village wants to play games then I say we start charging everyone who lives in B.F to use the Library no more free Library cards for B.F. Residents or using the library for meetings ect.And charge a higher rate for the kids in the Village to go to Rockingham Schools.We have one of the highest,if not the highest Special Ed.budgets in the state of Vermont in our schools. What % of those kids are from the village? Charge them more to go to Rockingham Town Schools.
Actually, we already do charge everyone in the Village more since we pay both Village and Town taxes [including the school tax component]. Why is it unreasonable for all Town taxpayers to pay for costs associated with Town buildings located in the Village? With the current status, the Village taxpayers shoulder 100% of the cost. As Town residents as well, we would still be paying the lion's share of the costs [about 65% of the Town tax revenue is paid by Village taxpayers], but at least the rest of the Town taxpayers would be contributing their fair share.

Since: May 10

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#5 Nov 30, 2010
In Afghanistan wrote:
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Thatís right Mike. You should know by now that BF is not trying to balance a budget or cut back the taxes. They always look for a way to generate new tax money to spend, spend and spend some more.
The Town and Village residents vote on the budget, not the Selectboard or Trustees. If you want to raise or lower the budget, go to the budget meetings and offer constructive suggestions or volunteer for one of the fiscal committees trying to find ways to save money or increase revenue. Then be sure to vote at the Town and Village meetings. If you are not willing to do any of that, don't sit back and complain because you have not done anything to help put into place the changes you think are needed. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.
In Afghanistan

United States

#6 Nov 30, 2010
Dinty Moore wrote:
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The Town and Village residents vote on the budget, not the Selectboard or Trustees. If you want to raise or lower the budget, go to the budget meetings and offer constructive suggestions or volunteer for one of the fiscal committees trying to find ways to save money or increase revenue. Then be sure to vote at the Town and Village meetings. If you are not willing to do any of that, don't sit back and complain because you have not done anything to help put into place the changes you think are needed. If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.
Itís hard to attend a meeting from Afghanistan. And I did vote absentee.
John

Barre, VT

#7 Nov 30, 2010
Unreal
nancan

Bellows Falls, VT

#8 Nov 30, 2010
Wow, I have never heard of so many adults sounding like a bunch of cry babies, don't you think the merger would have resolved this issue and work as one? Whats mine is mine and yours is yours would have easily made whats mine is yours. Stop embarrassing yourselves with all this fighting with each other.
Wonderful Whites of WV

Bridgewater Corners, VT

#9 Nov 30, 2010
nancan wrote:
Wow, I have never heard of so many adults sounding like a bunch of cry babies, don't you think the merger would have resolved this issue and work as one? Whats mine is mine and yours is yours would have easily made whats mine is yours. Stop embarrassing yourselves with all this fighting with each other.
If you've ever seen the documentary, The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia, you would clearly see the similarities in brain development and culture here in lovely Bellows Falls. This entire 'village', within a town crap is about as inefficient as it is old. I can't imagine going into Springfield, marking off the relative downtown area and saying that this is now the Village of Comtu Falls, and then having each other piss and moan and charge each other for this and that - you would think the fools of BF/Rock who actually pay attention or have interest in their town would have figured it out by now. You want to call yourself Bellows Falls....?....go ahead, but end this perpetual nightmare of a local government and all their great "idears". The village v. town bit is nothing more than a tug of war of inefficient, ineffective and inbred government.
Spuds

Chester, VT

#10 Nov 30, 2010
This is just another money grab for the unions.
This will amount another tax increase. We all pay town tax and if anyone in BF thinks their village taxes will go down as a result of this you should invest in swamp water. Paul Obuchowski will make it into snake oil. Rural residents already pay for street lights, sidewalks, pool, library, welfare, and so on, which most of us rarely if ever use. When will there be spending cuts? When will unionized labor be put in it's place? Police protect assets in the village from perps in the village. Get rid of the perps and you won't need the police. If you can't get rid of your perps then you pay for it!
Spuds

Chester, VT

#11 Nov 30, 2010
nancan wrote:
Wow, I have never heard of so many adults sounding like a bunch of cry babies, don't you think the merger would have resolved this issue and work as one? Whats mine is mine and yours is yours would have easily made whats mine is yours. Stop embarrassing yourselves with all this fighting with each other.
There originally was but one municipal entity which is Rockingham. Bellows Falls residents wanted additional services not offered by the town so they created the village corporation and levied an additional tax. Now the taxes are too high, so the corp. wants to steal what it can't afford. A merger could very well lead to rural residents making decisions on budget and services in the village that may not be what the villagers desire. Be careful what you wish for! We are not asleep out here with deep pockets!
thatwas

Bellows Falls, VT

#12 Nov 30, 2010
How about all of the village officials take a pay cut, instead of screwing the people more and charging them for everything just to get more money. This town vs. village war is getting interesting, although they both want the same thing.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#13 Nov 30, 2010
Eventually, one way or another, you folks will see the stupidity and start acting like a town. Just merge already.
Glad I live in NWalpole

Dodge City, KS

#14 Nov 30, 2010
It never ceases to amaze me how the Village of BF continues to see itself in such an important light as to figure out how to charge entities outside its jurisdiction in order to help with its bottom line. Any first year math student can tell you that funding a state-of-the-art, full-time fire department AND full-time police department for coverage of a one-square-mile village is not going to work in the long run. BF needs to cut back on its expenses and quit looking to non-village sources to keep the dream alive. It's no surprise that BF is in so much financial trouble when you consider how many of its residents are welfare recipients..
The village falls within the town, not the other way around. It should be the town deciding if they're going to financially help the village Not the village requiring the town to bail it out of its own mess.
Williy Makit

Methuen, MA

#15 Nov 30, 2010
The people in BF have got to be the most stupid folks on this earth.
Oh Oh, I beeter be careful, they might tax me for commenting on a story about BF.
Anonymous

Bellows Falls, VT

#16 Nov 30, 2010
If one of the schools catches on fire and they haven't paid up, do they just let it burn down?

If someone opens fire in one the schools and they haven't paid up, do they just let them keep shooting?
Jesco White

Burlington, VT

#17 Nov 30, 2010
Wonderful Whites of WV wrote:
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If you've ever seen the documentary, The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia, you would clearly see the similarities in brain development and culture here in lovely Bellows Falls. This entire 'village', within a town crap is about as inefficient as it is old. I can't imagine going into Springfield, marking off the relative downtown area and saying that this is now the Village of Comtu Falls, and then having each other **** and moan and charge each other for this and that - you would think the fools of BF/Rock who actually pay attention or have interest in their town would have figured it out by now. You want to call yourself Bellows Falls....?....go ahead, but end this perpetual nightmare of a local government and all their great "idears". The village v. town bit is nothing more than a tug of war of inefficient, ineffective and inbred government.
That movie is hilarious and it could have easily been filmed following half a dozen rockingham families
Spuds

Chester, VT

#18 Nov 30, 2010
Jesco White wrote:
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That movie is hilarious and it could have easily been filmed following half a dozen rockingham families
Bellows Falls was something to be proud of before the homeless scum from down country slithered in. There is nothing funny about a large swath of the population who can't care for themselves. You are a sick puppy if you think it is funny. The blight from the cities has spread into all the old mill towns. You don't find it much in the rural areas where people have to fend for themselves and free food and warmth isn't within walking distance. The socialist answer to poverty is always more laws, more regulations, more taxes, bigger government and more police. Had enough yet?
Spuds

Chester, VT

#19 Nov 30, 2010
"The board earlier this year voted to allow the police department into Rockingham which has brought in more than $1,200 to the village so far, and the board also is talking about starting a permit program for overnight parking in the village owned lots."
How much did it cost the village to get the $1200.00. Wouldn't a bake sale have brought in more profit?
Spuds

Chester, VT

#20 Nov 30, 2010
Social welfare is only effective if there is an incentive to get off it. In the old days the poor were taken care of on the "Town Farms". The poor were taught to grow food, preserve and prepare it. They could also hire out and learn trades while they learned to be self sufficient. Today there is little supervision with the exception of social workers and police. There is no incentive and no immediate supervision. The politicians promise more benefits and the poor vote for them. Hence the inmates are running the asylum. The fed. govt. is 13 thousand eighteen wheeler loads of hundred dollar bills in debt and poverty and debt are growing exponentially in the state local government. It is time to look to the past. Our recent ancestors had it right. To bad we ruined a good thing!

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