In Northwest Town, A Local Fight Against Global Coal

Oct 26, 2011 Full story: WNYC-AM New York 9

Bellingham, Wash., a progressive college town of 81,000, could soon be home to a new coal terminal.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#1 Oct 28, 2011
Well, the quesition is really whether it is worthwhile destroying most of the scenic and health value in the community for the same of maybe twenty jobs.

Coal terminals are highly automated.

MOST of the money goes to the owners of the coal with most jobs in the dirty and dangerous deep rock and open pit mines.

But coal isn't the real problem here. This is mostly NIMBY reaction. And climate chagne isn't the problem either. High grade coal is used in China to allow higher efficiencies than the lower grade coal they have locally. This reduces the overall emissions per unit of power generated.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#2 Oct 28, 2011
Get your act together, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty, your typing is getting worse and your mind is wandering aimlessly.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#3 Oct 28, 2011
Climate change is indeed the problem. The efficiency of burning high-grade coal will be more than offset by the carbon footprint of transporting that coal 8,000 miles, with two rail/ship transfers along the way.

I know the argument raised by Richard Harris that this raise the price of coal, expediting the USA's move to cleaner gas and alternative generation, but that move is already happening at high speed.

In fact, it is America's success in closing and regulating coal plants that has American companies like Peabody pushing so hard for new markets, which is why they want to build this conveyor system to China.

This whole debacle recently came to light only because a bulk shipping company obtained a permit for a small potash port terminal near Bellingham, which they were careless enough to build in the middle of a marine life reserve; that raised the attention of environmentalists who sued for the application records, in which they discovered that this was actually an effort by Peabody Coal to build a coal port more than ten times the size of the stated potash terminal--and that an even larger terminal was being planned 200 miles south, on the Columbia River. We then looked at where the coal was originating, a thousand miles inland, where the Federal government had just opened huge new areas for strip mining in the world's largest coal field, and the scale of this monster became clear. My city will see fifty new 1.5-mile coal trains spewing diesel and dust straight through downtown, 24/7, for decades to come. The needed Spokane rail overpasses alone will cost local taxpayers over $100 million, while respiratory health problems and water pollution will grow dramatically.

As it is, Chinese mercury drift forced our state health department this year to slap a fish consumption warning on the entire state's waters. The only benefit the state would likely receive would be the few dozen port jobs these companies originally forecast, before they realized how concerned the public would be and they changed their forecasts to "hundreds" of jobs.

What liars. And what a disaster.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#4 Oct 28, 2011
Earthling-1 wrote:
Get your act together, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty, your typing is getting worse and your mind is wandering aimlessly.
In my opinion, it is better to be a little sloppy on typing than to have NOTHING worth saying.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#5 Oct 28, 2011
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, alias:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
In my opinion, it is better to be a little sloppy on typing than to have NOTHING worth saying.
So why do you continually do both, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?
Any luck with an explanation for this yet?
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow wrote:
That CO2 cannot be a 'pollutant'? Wrong. Anything CAN and IS a pollutant in a specific context. In this case, as a greenhouse gas causing 'thermal pollution' of the planet.
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The point is really that the whole claim of 'CO2 is vital to life' and 'CO2 is plant food' promoted by Earthling is not so much that it is technically wrong, but that it is IRRELEVANT to the issue of CO2 as a 'thermal pollutant'. Agreed?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
Thorthur

Bellingham, WA

#6 Mar 8, 2012
No one on this thread has mentioned the fact that all railroad tracks in the United States are Federal lands! It doesn't matter if you and I don't like it. if the terminal doesn't get built the trains are still going to come through Bellingham on there way to Canada! And once agian Bellingham will have scared away good family wage jobs!
litesong

Everett, WA

#7 Mar 8, 2012
thor the thug wrote:
..... if the terminal doesn't get built the trains are still going to come through Bellingham on there way to Canada! And once agian(sic) Bellingham will have scared away good family wage jobs!
'thor the thug'...... Let them run the trains through Canada, instead of spreading coal dust all over U.S. beauty spots, the long run along the Puget Sound & the lovely Chuckanut Drive being a supreme example.

The single line is NOT adequate to handle the minimal coal trains that Peabody will BEGIN sending, while Peabody, the world's richest & largest coal company will push for far more coal trains. Any further expansion of development & transportation for ANY other economic plans east of northern Puget Sound, other than coal shipments will be squashed.

On that line south of Everett & in other areas, continuing bluff slumps readily close the tracks, often due to rains that pour on Washington state. Because of the continuing rail repairs, the roadbed is uneven, limiting speeds. Leave it to Peabody, the world's richest coal company, to try to speed through the areas. Sometimes the slumping bluffs have carried rail cars INTO THE PUGET SOUND. The slumping bluffs have closed the rail line twice in TWO separate slumps in succeeding days! Coal train delays would be terrible & once tracks are repaired, coal train transports making up for lost time(because Peabody, the largest coal company in the world WILL have its way), will continue extensive delays of other rail transports.

Yeah, Peabody will have its way, if they are given this first step & heaven forbid if Washington state economic plans try to put Peabody in its place.

It is said that cougar populations are expanding in the high mountains of Washington state. Peabody will be like 10,000 coal-black cougars prowling Washington low lands, & pity some poor developer who crosses paths with Peabody cougars.... & maybe 'thor the thug'.
litesong

Everett, WA

#8 Mar 8, 2012
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steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling wrote:
.....your mind is wandering aimlessly.
I wish the mind of "steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling" would wander aimlessly, instead of stating slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigisms, continually. It is difficult to understand that "steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling" has a mind, because he is also,'earthling has no brain'. But it is more understandable, when you know that "steenking piddling diddling middling mudling mudslinger dirtling" is also,'eart hling(alien has no affinity to Earth)'.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#9 Mar 9, 2012
litesout wrote:
I wish
Wishing is for children.

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