Brownouts Hit Queens

There are 9 comments on the Patch.com story from Jun 20, 2012, titled Brownouts Hit Queens. In it, Patch.com reports that:

Con Edison has reduced voltage in 18neighborhoods in Queens due to equipment problems.

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Robert

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Jun 20, 2012
Con Edison is doing too much of a voltage reduction here in Queens... my fathers house is down to 93v (from typical 115-120v nominal). This is a crazy 20% reduction which is not going to help them reduce power usage.

I am an electrical technician and I can explain:
In the old days of normal bulbs, it helped... but now with electronics, it causes them to use more current to counteract the reduced voltage.

Plus, appliances like A/C, fridges will run longer as they are MUCH LESS efficient at lower voltages. Anything with a motor under load runs "out of sync" you could say, which puts MORE STRESS on the powerlines.

Every time coned does this to our neighborhoods, never fixing the issue. They should try to keep the reductions within REASON (10% or 103volts), to prevent more issues instead of using this as a bandaid.

Since: Jul 10

Mineola, NY

#2 Jun 21, 2012
I'm going to eat two heads of romaine lettuce today. My toilet is on a brownout alert.
shameless-li

Denver, CO

#3 Jun 21, 2012
brownouts and potholes are yearly events...

“Lovely year for a Guinness”

Since: Dec 07

Daytona Beach

#4 Jun 21, 2012
Robert wrote:
Con Edison is doing too much of a voltage reduction here in Queens... my fathers house is down to 93v (from typical 115-120v nominal). This is a crazy 20% reduction which is not going to help them reduce power usage.
I am an electrical technician and I can explain:
In the old days of normal bulbs, it helped... but now with electronics, it causes them to use more current to counteract the reduced voltage.
Plus, appliances like A/C, fridges will run longer as they are MUCH LESS efficient at lower voltages. Anything with a motor under load runs "out of sync" you could say, which puts MORE STRESS on the powerlines.
Every time coned does this to our neighborhoods, never fixing the issue. They should try to keep the reductions within REASON (10% or 103volts), to prevent more issues instead of using this as a bandaid.
hey Bob, anything in your technical background suggest that maybe shutting off your PC might help ?

“Watch out for that tree”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#5 Jun 21, 2012
Robert wrote:
Con Edison is doing too much of a voltage reduction here in Queens... my fathers house is down to 93v (from typical 115-120v nominal). This is a crazy 20% reduction which is not going to help them reduce power usage.
I am an electrical technician and I can explain:
In the old days of normal bulbs, it helped... but now with electronics, it causes them to use more current to counteract the reduced voltage.
Plus, appliances like A/C, fridges will run longer as they are MUCH LESS efficient at lower voltages. Anything with a motor under load runs "out of sync" you could say, which puts MORE STRESS on the powerlines.
Every time coned does this to our neighborhoods, never fixing the issue. They should try to keep the reductions within REASON (10% or 103volts), to prevent more issues instead of using this as a bandaid.
where do you work as a tech? the motors can't go "out of sync" if con ed doesn't change the frequency. just think what would happen to all the frequency dependent devices if they did that [including their power meters]. on another note - queens suffered from a brownout years ago.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#6 Jun 21, 2012
Robert wrote:
Con Edison is doing too much of a voltage reduction here in Queens... my fathers house is down to 93v (from typical 115-120v nominal). This is a crazy 20% reduction which is not going to help them reduce power usage.
I am an electrical technician and I can explain:
In the old days of normal bulbs, it helped... but now with electronics, it causes them to use more current to counteract the reduced voltage.
Plus, appliances like A/C, fridges will run longer as they are MUCH LESS efficient at lower voltages. Anything with a motor under load runs "out of sync" you could say, which puts MORE STRESS on the powerlines.
Every time coned does this to our neighborhoods, never fixing the issue. They should try to keep the reductions within REASON (10% or 103volts), to prevent more issues instead of using this as a bandaid.
This may be a silly question but how can any electric appliance use more current if less current is being produced at the station? Im familiar with the "v/i/r" but have no idea if it applies where electricity is being generated..
phil

Elizabethtown, NY

#7 May 19, 2013
i just shit my pants wow what a brownout.
JAMAICA IS A BROWNOUT

Monroe, NC

#8 May 19, 2013
and has been for decades!
Terd Finder

Bronx, NY

#9 May 20, 2013
It's more than a Brownout, Just look at all the crime!

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