The heart of a true believing Preside...

The heart of a true believing President in thanksgiving to God!

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Marysville, OH

#3 Nov 22, 2012
and now its the biggest consumer day of the year, thanks be to coperations for all they do for us turning Thanksgiving day and Christmas in to money making for nothing else but profits
Ray

Mansfield, OH

#4 Nov 22, 2012
The Voice Of Sound Wisdom wrote:
In Obama's 2011 Thanksgiving proclamation he called the very first Thanksgiving, "a celebration of community".
How utterly ridiculous!
And of course no mention of the God that was celebrated in the first Thanksgiving can be found within the entire text. Quite telling to say the least!
But he has tried to cover his tracts with his secular 2012 proclamation.
No doubt written by some Obama wordsmith.
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stor...
And of course read from an teleprompter.
You really are a mean spirited and ignorant POS

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#5 Nov 22, 2012
The Voice Of Sound Wisdom wrote:
In Obama's 2011 Thanksgiving proclamation he called the very first Thanksgiving, "a celebration of community".
How utterly ridiculous!
And of course no mention of the God that was celebrated in the first Thanksgiving can be found within the entire text. Quite telling to say the least!
But he has tried to cover his tracts with his secular 2012 proclamation.
No doubt written by some Obama wordsmith.
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stor...
And of course read from an teleprompter.
Not surprisingly, most Native Americans think your "god" and the Thanksgiving holiday are both BS.

“ A TRUMPSTER”

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#10 Nov 22, 2012
Ray wrote:
<quoted text> You really are a mean spirited and ignorant POS
More ignorant & hateful name calling. Typical lib. No core beliefs.
standing firm

Mount Gilead, OH

#11 Nov 22, 2012
Only teabaggers would think thanksgiving is a religious holiday. Perfect example of someone in denial.

“ A TRUMPSTER”

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#12 Nov 22, 2012
standing firm wrote:
Only teabaggers would think thanksgiving is a religious holiday. Perfect example of someone in denial.
President Abraham Lincoln’s 1863 Thanksgiving Proclamation below:

The year that is drawing toward its close has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added which are of so extraordinary a nature that they can not fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever-watchful providence of Almighty GOD. In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign states to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere, except in the theater of military conflict, while that theater has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union.

Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defense have not arrested the plow, the shuttle, or the ship; the ax has enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well as the iron and coal as of our precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege, and the battlefield, and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with large increase of freedom.

No Human counsel hath devised nor hath any Mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High GOD, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.

It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently, and gratefully acknowledged, as with one heart and one voice, by the whole American people. I do therefore invite my fellow-citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next as a day of thanksgiving and praise to our beneficent FATHER who dwelleth in the HEAVENS.

And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to HIM for such singular deliverances and blessings they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to HIS tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners, or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the imposition of the ALMIGHTY hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it, as soon as may be consistent with the DEVINE purpose, to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility, and union.


“ A TRUMPSTER”

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#15 Nov 22, 2012
The Voice Of Sound Wisdom wrote:
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Thanks for posting this Don!
The words of these great men of renown continue to show how really inapt and small our current President really is.
This is how men of ability and convictions speak.
Obama would be better served keeping his mouth shut and thought a fool, rather then speaking and removing all doubt!
What an honor to read the words of these great men as they express their hearts and minds.
To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added which are of so extraordinary a nature that they can not fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever-watchful providence of Almighty GOD.
A.Lincoln
"The words of these great men of renown continue to show how really inapt and small our current President really is."

VOICE: We should include his suppoters in the above sentence. It's really disappointing to listen to how little they all seem to know about our unprecedented HERITAGE. "You can tell 'em, but you can't tell 'em much!"
standing firm

Mount Gilead, OH

#16 Nov 22, 2012
DON W SOUTH wrote:
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"The words of these great men of renown continue to show how really inapt and small our current President really is."
VOICE: We should include his suppoters in the above sentence. It's really disappointing to listen to how little they all seem to know about our unprecedented HERITAGE. "You can tell 'em, but you can't tell 'em much!"
They are great Americans but the world isn't flat anymore guys.
standing firm

Mount Gilead, OH

#18 Nov 22, 2012
The Voice Of Sound Wisdom wrote:
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Yes Don it is a very, very sad situation.
I am stunned at the lack of appreciation of these great me that lead so faithfully and the words they spoke.
One can only hope their children are unaware of their disdain for these wonderful men and what they stood for. Let the disdain cease and not be passed on to future generation's.
I swear they have no shame or intelligence! Let them slink along in their own embarrassment.
You can either be forward thinking or backwards.

If it were up to you guys we'd have faster horses and still be without motor vehicles.

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#19 Nov 22, 2012
standing firm wrote:
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They are great Americans but the world isn't flat anymore guys.
What does the world not being flat have to do with anything.
Makes no sense.

“ A TRUMPSTER”

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#20 Nov 22, 2012
standing firm wrote:
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You can either be forward thinking or backwards.
If it were up to you guys we'd have faster horses and still be without motor vehicles.
You are backward thinking, since you think 1930's solutions will solve 2012 challenges.
standing firm

Mount Gilead, OH

#21 Nov 22, 2012
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>What does the world not being flat have to do with anything.
Makes no sense.
You live in the past.

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#22 Nov 22, 2012
The Voice Of Sound Wisdom wrote:
<quoted text>Now dont forget to include all atheist.
Nope, atheists just do not believe in the existence of your god(s). Atheism has nothing to do with the Thanksgiving celebration other than perhaps the head shaking at those who credit a "god" with something that they did all by themselves.
Anti Devine

Marengo, OH

#23 Nov 22, 2012
DON W SOUTH wrote:
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President Abraham Lincoln’s 1863 Thanksgiving Proclamation below:...
Fervently implore the imposition of the ALMIGHTY hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it, as soon as may be consistent with the DEVINE purpose, to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility and union.
Why would Lincoln bring up DEVINE's name? The guy hadn't even been born yet. And Washington does not appear to know cannot is written as a single word. There are quite a number of other typos and capitalization idiosyncracies that come across as strangely early 21st Century... Oh well you get what you pay for... provided you are lucky and the GBA Trinity boys are not the ones doing the copying and pasting...

“ A TRUMPSTER”

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#25 Nov 22, 2012
D0N W S0UTH wrote:
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see you are just anti liberty and heritage. you ignore our history and fail to answer the questions.
Lincoln was a hard core christian, even back in the day when mitt romney's grandpa had several wives. washington, that patriot, he writt in latin so I need to translate.
Just my honest opinion.
"honest?"
John D

Zanesville, OH

#26 Nov 22, 2012
This is a Native American perspective of Thanksgiving told to me by a Cherokee elder, who was a very old, wise man .

"Many stories were passed down from tribal bands that met the first white man.
They spoke of 3 large boats that brought them from the great waters. Our ancestors watched the strange ones and could see that they were without survival skills. The year was 1621, and the pilgrims were not in good shape. They were living in dirt covered shelters and there was a shortage of food. Nearly half of those white men died during the brutal winter. They obviously needed help. My Indian ancestors brought them food, taught the Pilgrims how to hunt and farm the land, and how to build homes. We shared our knowledge of plants and their uses to combat illnesses. Above all we taught them to preserve berries, teas, and other foods to help them through the cold winters. This was a time of sharing and the Ancestors learned much from their new friends. They had a feast to celebrate their first Thanksgiving. together....but they did not live happily ever after.

Fast forward: "Now the year is 2012. The American Indians are not in good shape. Rusted- out cars and tiny, weather beaten, time-worn homes line the streets. Sometimes 2 and 3 families are forced to live in dilapidated dwellings that they call "home." There is a shortage of food and the brutal winter months and disease still threaten the lives of thousands of vulnerable Elders and young children. And sadly, there is very little Thanksgiving on the reservations again this year. "

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#29 Nov 23, 2012
The Voice Of Sound Wisdom wrote:
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{Atheism has nothing to do with the Thanksgiving...}
You have answered wisely grasshopper.
Everyone is aware of the fact that atheism is totally self-serving.
Everyone knows that they must depend upon the red cross, salvation army and other Christian organizations for help. As no atheist charitable organizations exist.
Now just to be sure some of you reading this post are not hoodwinked we need to be clear on something.
And that is the fact that all atheist groups that try to claim they are charities are in fact nothing more then secular outfits trying to ride along on legit Charitable organizations.
True Charitable organizations do not declare themselves 'atheist'
And atheism as a whole has contributed nothing of real value to the nation.
Well they do disgrace veterans and others, and tie up our court systems with frivolous lawsuits.
But this should be expected of those that believe they crawled out from under a rock.
Yes grasshopper you remain a taker and not a giver.
Enjoy your small and pathetic world of atheism.
Now let Linda back on, he may have input as well!
Thanks be to God in the highest!!!!!
More of your blah, blah, blah....anything to discredit those whose beliefs are different from your own. There are many atheist organizations that give to charity, the fact that their organization may have the word "atheist" or "humanist" (or similar) is irrelevant. If one does not wish the charitable contributions from an organization then they are welcome to refuse I am sure. I am quite confident that should you fall on hard times that you would not refuse a donation, given in charity, out of the goodness in my heart so that your family will not go hungry. And I, unlike your religious organizations, would not have any strings attached...no little bible verse stuck in the cash donation envelope. No requiring a person to sit through a sermon before the "free" meal. No guilting a person towards your "god" all for a meal or a place to sleep.

You say atheists have contributed nothing to our nation? Must you be shown the listing (AGAIN) of the many atheists whose discoveries, inventions or other work done for the betterment of mankind that you personally enjoy on a daily basis? This is not to belittle also the many christians, buddhists, homosexuals, Blacks, Hispanics, Japanese, Italians and so on and so forth...all of the humans regardless of belief, skin color, nationality etc. who have bettered this world for the sake of mankind. You, Silly Voice, fail to see this and/or do not give credit where credit is due because of your hatred for anything that is different from yourself because of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation etc.

Disgrace veterans? Really? And please describe how atheists do this...I remind you, that your answer will be smacked down as it has before so choose your response wisely.

“ A TRUMPSTER”

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#30 Nov 23, 2012
USN Atheist wrote:
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More of your blah, blah, blah....anything to discredit those whose beliefs are different from your own. There are many atheist organizations that give to charity, the fact that their organization may have the word "atheist" or "humanist" (or similar) is irrelevant. If one does not wish the charitable contributions from an organization then they are welcome to refuse I am sure. I am quite confident that should you fall on hard times that you would not refuse a donation, given in charity, out of the goodness in my heart so that your family will not go hungry. And I, unlike your religious organizations, would not have any strings attached...no little bible verse stuck in the cash donation envelope. No requiring a person to sit through a sermon before the "free" meal. No guilting a person towards your "god" all for a meal or a place to sleep.
You say atheists have contributed nothing to our nation? Must you be shown the listing (AGAIN) of the many atheists whose discoveries, inventions or other work done for the betterment of mankind that you personally enjoy on a daily basis? This is not to belittle also the many christians, buddhists, homosexuals, Blacks, Hispanics, Japanese, Italians and so on and so forth...all of the humans regardless of belief, skin color, nationality etc. who have bettered this world for the sake of mankind. You, Silly Voice, fail to see this and/or do not give credit where credit is due because of your hatred for anything that is different from yourself because of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation etc.
Disgrace veterans? Really? And please describe how atheists do this...I remind you, that your answer will be smacked down as it has before so choose your response wisely.
Name some of "those many atheist organizations that give to charity. "Pray tell us who they are."
standing firm

Wampum, PA

#32 Nov 23, 2012
DON W SOUTH wrote:
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Name some of "those many atheist organizations that give to charity. "Pray tell us who they are."
Bill gates and warren buffet.

“ A TRUMPSTER”

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#33 Nov 24, 2012
standing firm wrote:
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Bill gates and warren buffet.
FROM "THE AMERICAN VIEW"
Scott’s BlogWarren Buffett “Agnostic,” Bill Gates Rejects Sermon On The Mount, Not “Huge Believer” In “Specific Elements” Of Christianity


WARREN BUFFET is ‘agnostic,’ according to one of his assistants.In his interview with Charlie Rose on Public TV, Bill Gates has said he is “doubly blessed” to have worked at Microsoft and now at his Foundation. But,“doubly blessed” by whom? By what? What is the religion of Bill Gates? What is the religion of Warren Buffett?

Well, in a succinct email to me, Debbie Bosanek, Assistant to Warren Buffett, says:“Mr. Buffett is agnostic.”

And Bill Gates? In a November 1995 interview of Gates by David Frost, this exchange took place:

Frost: Do you believe in the Sermon on the Mount?

Gates: I don’t. I’m not somebody who goes to church on a regular basis. The specific elements of Christianity are not something I’m a huge believer in. There’s a lot of merit in the moral aspects of religion. I think it can have a very, very positive impact.

Frost: I sometimes say to people, do you believe there is a god, or do you know there is a god? And, you’d say you don’t know?

GATES TOLD interviewer David Frost that he does not believe in the Sermon On The Mount.Gates: In terms of doing things I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don’t know if there’s a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid.

On January 13, 1996, in a “Time” magazine profile of Gates by Walter Isaacson, there was this exchange:

Isaacson: Isn’t there something special, perhaps even divine, about the human soul?

Gates: I don’t have any evidence on that.

Isaacson wrote:“Gates face suddenly becomes expressionless, his squeaky voice turns toneless, and he folds his arms across his belly and vigorously rocks back and forth in a mannerism that has become so mimicked at Microsoft that a meeting there can resemble a round table of ecstatic rabbis.”

Isaacson also quotes Gates as saying:“Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There’s a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning.”– J.L.

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