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Jennifer Johnson

Bellefontaine, OH

#83 Feb 1, 2013
Stan Lee wrote:
Oh boy your homeschooling. I hope they don't grow up to be a dirty butt moron like you. Good thing your on government assistance to do that, because obviously you don't work!
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Wow! "Dirty butt moron"? "On government assistance"?

Not sure what I said to be a "dirty butt moron", but no I do not work! My husband and I decided I would be a stay at home mother while attending college! As for "government assistance" honey, my husband work hard and takes excellent care of us! But thank you for your concerns!
Sadness

Mount Vernon, OH

#84 Feb 1, 2013
I would like to be clear about what happened on the day the brother went to pick up these children. In your Forum letter you state that he roamed the halls and stood in front of the office to pick up your kids, this was not an included part of your story on the front page. My question would be did he go into the office and ask to take your children out or was he waiting in the hall, perhaps on a cold and snowy day, with other parents who were there to pick up children as well? In the event that he didn't ask for the children by name, why would you think that the school should be questioning him? Just because he has the tattooes and piercings? That is more the norm in this day and age. Did you call the school immediately on that day or did you wait until you had polled the people on Topix to make your decision?

I understand the need for safety in our schools considering what is happening around the country, however, trying to be sneaky about it isn't the way to win anything other than the critics coming out of the woodwork to try and knock you down a peg or two.
There it is

Sidney, OH

#85 Feb 1, 2013
Jennifer Johnson wrote:
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I gave you examples of schools that already do this with no problem!
Ok, so we're both responsible parents! But not every parent is right? What is rediculous, is to think we can change the parents! Obviously not possible, but changing policies to ensure the safety of the children in our community is!
We do not need anymore regulations on how we live our daily lives. I am sorry that there are irresponsible parents in this world. Do we all need to abide by a policy change because people are too lazy to ensure that their children are capable of functioning in the real world. The world is not going to change to accommodate our children. We need to start at an early age teaching them the skills needed to become functioning adults. I say for the parents who think a policy change is needed that their children are sent to the gym each day and the parents physically walk into the building and sign them out. The rest of the parents can continue letting their children grow and let them have a bit more responsibility in their lives while the parents safely observe them from outside and offer the guidance they need. One aspect of good parenting is offering guidance and boundaries so our childret can get on the pathway to become self-reliant adults capable of adapting and functioning in the real world. Walking from the school to an awaiting parent is a good learning skill that I think the majority of children are capable of doing under the watchful eye of their parents or a caregiver.
There it is

Sidney, OH

#86 Feb 1, 2013
Sadness wrote:
I would like to be clear about what happened on the day the brother went to pick up these children. In your Forum letter you state that he roamed the halls and stood in front of the office to pick up your kids, this was not an included part of your story on the front page. My question would be did he go into the office and ask to take your children out or was he waiting in the hall, perhaps on a cold and snowy day, with other parents who were there to pick up children as well? In the event that he didn't ask for the children by name, why would you think that the school should be questioning him? Just because he has the tattooes and piercings? That is more the norm in this day and age. Did you call the school immediately on that day or did you wait until you had polled the people on Topix to make your decision?
I understand the need for safety in our schools considering what is happening around the country, however, trying to be sneaky about it isn't the way to win anything other than the critics coming out of the woodwork to try and knock you down a peg or two.
I don't see how this "experiment" can accurate. First of all I heard that the brother was an authorized pick-up person. Secondly, he was their uncle. So I am sure the children went willingly along with the uncle. Why would any red flags be popping up for the teachers. Send a stranger in their to get your kids then tell us the results.
There it is

Sidney, OH

#87 Feb 1, 2013
*be accurate *there

“"For where your treasure is,"”

Since: Jul 09

Rural Central Ohio

#88 Feb 1, 2013
I have posted, I pick up my grandson occasionally. Where are the parents etc.supposed to park so that the teacher can deliver each child to the parent? It is not feasible.
Metro

Mansfield, OH

#89 Feb 1, 2013
Jennifer what college do you attend? In one of your posts you say, that you babysit children that attend both Southeastern and Northeastern. When do you have time to attend college? Is it University of Phoenix?
another parent

Lima, OH

#90 Feb 1, 2013
Jennifer you are basking in your 5 minutes of fame. My children also attend NE and I feel they are safe. If you have someone that the child feels safe around, but you have issues with call the school and make them aware of this unusual situation. You are just stirring the pot. And seriously, did you know you were going to get your photo taken? You can't be taken seriously when you look like such a dirt bag.

“"For where your treasure is,"”

Since: Jul 09

Rural Central Ohio

#91 Feb 1, 2013
Jennifer Johnson wrote:
If you guys all refer to earlier posts I wouldn't have to keep repeating myself!
1. I do pick up my children at the door!
2. We do teach are children "stranger danger"!
3. Again, statistics show most children are harmed by family or someone they are close to! Therefor, not looking "uncomfortable leaving with them!"
As for the grandparent who occationally picks up kids and the parents who are too lazy to get out of their vehicles, please don't lie about the obvious chaos during the children's dismissal! I've had a number of parents comment on the kids just pouring out of the school!
Finally, for my plan...
I didn't quite have a plan at first, I just knew there had to be a better way and with thousand's of educated people we had to be able to come up with one good idea! However, after the dozens of message's I have recieved today in response to the story there are so many other local schools already enforcing better policies! So I will be looking into how they do things, not for pay or tax dollars, just because I care about our children!
For example:
(I pulling these from message's of parent's from other schools)
-Indian Lake School's doors are locked all day everyday and every child is with their teaher waiting in a more orderly fashion
-my little one goes to the lake and you have to line up in your car and they bring your child to you
-My child is escorted from my car to his school and vice versa by his teacher every day, as well as all the other children in his school. I thought it was crazy at first that I couldn't just go into his school and get him, but it's their way of keeping people out.
- My daughter's school keeps the children in their last class. Then the parents line up and have either a sign on their dashboard or in their window for the "parking lot security" to read with the last name of the student and grade. They then use a walky talky system to release the children. It's not a one at a time thing so the line up isn't that bad.
-teachers are present at the doors when school lets out the students that get picked up stand outside with 6 different teachers helping sort them out and unless you have the name of your child on the dashboard of your vehicle paper provided by school you cannot have your child each child is physically taken to the vehicle with there name and they personally make sure they know who you are before the child gets in
These are just a few! I'm sure once I sort through everyone's ideas and other schools' policies I will be able to figure out something!
I am the Grandmother that picks up the child occasionally. I DID NOT LIE. I must park on the next block unless I get to school by 2:30. I walk to the front door the teacher brings the children from the class room. I do not see chaos, I see young children with boundless energy after being in a classroom for 6 1/2 hours.
All of the children come out of the front door instead of the side doors. That is what makes it look like "them children scatter from them doors"
There it is

Sidney, OH

#92 Feb 1, 2013
Sounds like Ms. Johnson wants each child physically handed from the teacher to a parent at the end of each day. I wonder at what point the child will be able to leave school on their own? Will this continue into middle school, high school, college, and their fist job? We are becoming a nation of whiners where some want our everyday life controlled by outside sources.

She states that the world is full of people who are not very nice. Yes it is. That is the reason we need to teach our children life skills. Not make them more dependent on others. We need to teach them to navigate this world while they are still young and the parents can't help guide them in the right direction. We have got to stop depending on society to the job of parents.
Jennifer Johnson

Bellefontaine, OH

#93 Feb 1, 2013
Sadness wrote:
I would like to be clear about what happened on the day the brother went to pick up these children. In your Forum letter you state that he roamed the halls and stood in front of the office to pick up your kids, this was not an included part of your story on the front page. My question would be did he go into the office and ask to take your children out or was he waiting in the hall, perhaps on a cold and snowy day, with other parents who were there to pick up children as well? In the event that he didn't ask for the children by name, why would you think that the school should be questioning him? Just because he has the tattooes and piercings? That is more the norm in this day and age. Did you call the school immediately on that day or did you wait until you had polled the people on Topix to make your decision?
I understand the need for safety in our schools considering what is happening around the country, however, trying to be sneaky about it isn't the way to win anything other than the critics coming out of the woodwork to try and knock you down a peg or two.
I am trying to be respectful and respond to all the concerns and questions, but repeating myself is becoming slightly frustrating! If you refer to the letter, I got this idea from an interview of a former FBI aggent! He suggested that all parents should test the security of their childs school, on a routine basis! If I would have announced him, it would have defeated the purpose! I called the school imediately and then the board of education, who said that it was aginest policies for any child to leave with a non-guardian if they weren't on their list! Since no one asked, no one knew if he was on the list! As for tattoo's and piercing I also have them, that was simply to show he was noticable!
Parent

Mansfield, OH

#94 Feb 1, 2013
Why would you send your brother out front to pick the kids up...of course the kids are gonna bound out the door and right to their uncle..tatoos and all! If you were truly "experimenting" why not send somebody else....somebody they don't know and isn't on the emergency pick up.
mom and grandma

Bellefontaine, OH

#95 Feb 1, 2013
first of all if your kids would have said they didnt know the gentleman then the school would have stopped it all 4 of my boys went to bellefontaine and I personally have high regards for the school system
ANOTHER DAD

Mount Vernon, OH

#96 Feb 1, 2013
I saw the "brother" the day of. I noticed that he was not a regular there. I try not to be judgmental. Tattoos and piercing doesn't mean that they are a criminal.
Now, thanks to this little stunt, there aren't going to let parents in the school, and the kids can't come out until they see the parent. This is going to slow down the whole process a lot. The kids can't see out the window because there are just so many kids in there.. I'm sure you had good intentions, but this is going to make it rougher for all of us. There really is just so much we can do . Whats next? Signing out our kids everyday after we show someone our license? I think the school does a pretty good job of watching. I normally make eye contact with the teacher. Heck I normally email the teacher if plans change and someone else his picking up my child.

I'll take this chance to plug my business, I offer anti-abduction classes for kids (and adults) www.throatchop.com
CarnationInstant

Bellefontaine, OH

#97 Feb 1, 2013
Jennifer Johnson wrote:
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I am trying to be respectful and respond to all the concerns and questions, but repeating myself is becoming slightly frustrating! If you refer to the letter, I got this idea from an interview of a former FBI aggent! He suggested that all parents should test the security of their childs school, on a routine basis! If I would have announced him, it would have defeated the purpose! I called the school imediately and then the board of education, who said that it was aginest policies for any child to leave with a non-guardian if they weren't on their list! Since no one asked, no one knew if he was on the list! As for tattoo's and piercing I also have them, that was simply to show he was noticable!
And you still aren't answering the question that Sadness asked. Did your brother go into the office and ask for your children by name? Did he actually roam the halls or was he standing with a group of other people there waiting to pick up other children? Was he even inside the school at all? As has been pointed out on here by many other posters, once they are out the door, it is the parents responsibility to make sure your children know who they are and are not allowed to leave with.

I don't believe you called the school or the Superintendent right away since your earliest posts on here were to ask for advice about what to do.

If you are this concerned about every child at Northeastern Elementary, I would suggest you set up a table outside of the school and keep track of everyone coming to pick up a child on their own. Make sure you require everyone to get out of their cars and line up in an orderly fashion showing acceptable identification. You might want to bring an extra person to help you, as you will then need to walk those adults and children back to their cars checking the license plates to correspond with your list and making sure the children are buckled in. You will probably be done just in time for school to begin the next day.

I would also suggest that if you are indeed taking college courses, you go back to English class and learn how to spell.

“ I AGITATE LIBERALS”

Since: Sep 11

Bellefontaine, OH

#98 Feb 1, 2013
As one can learn by the above posts, it is not very popular to criticize or suggest changes to the American Public School System. In the eyes of the American People, the system is "sacrosanct." However, few, if any, organizations are close to perfect, especially if they are established & operated by the government. Several years back, our family had had some disheartning experieces with the schools, similiar to what JJ brought has brought up which, in view of today's declining culture, I feel it is right & salutary for JJ to be concerned, and she should be listened to, not "beat up" on. After all, the "gun resticters" say that "if it saves just one little child, it's
worth it!"
From the Inside

Bellefontaine, OH

#99 Feb 1, 2013
JJ-Iím the parent of a kindergartner at Northeastern. I know where your heart is at and I commend you for being brave enough to speak your mind. Few do so publicly.

But what youíve done is like going to the grocery store, buying groceries and complaining that the store allowed you to buy them.

Thatís how itís supposed to work.

Your brother was on the emergency pick-up list.

He was authorized to pick up your children.

Yes, yes, I know you're argument. But it's moot.

Northeastern and BCS, in my opinion, do a fine job of keeping my children safe. All this may do is make it more difficult and time consuming to pick up my child.

Again, I commend your courage to speak, despite my disagreement with your stance.
tentv

Lima, OH

#100 Feb 2, 2013
Btowner

Bowling Green, KY

#101 Feb 2, 2013
I understand your concern, and it is completely normal to be concerned about your children after the recent shooting, I think you are stretching this a little too far. If a random stranger tried to take your child in a crowd of children and their parents, do you think your child would just accept it calmly, or do you think they would scream or cause a commotion? If they would scream and cause a commotion than you probably have little to worry about.

All public schools seem to operate in such a way that children pour out of the doors at the end of school, and if the school district has not ever had a problem come of this, then I would think that it isn't something to be concerned about. Teachers aren't paid enough as it is, and it isn't their job to herd your children around your school until they find you. It would also take hours to leave the school if children were required to leave the school everyday, one by one, accompanied by their teacher.

I think Bellefontaine City Schools does need to pay more attention to who is walking into their schools, and they need to have more control over who is roaming the halls, but this is difficult to do when offices are not always located in convenient places. As a parent, I would be more concerned if they let my child leave in the middle of the day with someone who wasn't even on the emergency list. Again, I understand that you are concerned about your children, but I don't think you are being reasonable in your expectations.
Justin Case

Fredericktown, OH

#102 Feb 2, 2013
tentv wrote:
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