Is it just me?

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#21 Jan 18, 2013
USN Atheist wrote:
My, my, my...look at all of those "offtopic" judging icons. Do you think that the Silly Voice is peeved because his thread isn't going the direction he wanted to?
It must be heartbreaking for him.
I think so. It seems as though he has also taken a delusional stance on his "interpretation" of the comments made here.

WTH is he trying to say?

Or is that post a pathetic attempt to "save face" as he twists the facts, tucks tail and runs? lol.

Typical.
Pollster

Lewistown, OH

#22 Jan 18, 2013
Ethel K wrote:
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I think so. It seems as though he has also taken a delusional stance on his "interpretation" of the comments made here.
WTH is he trying to say?
Or is that post a pathetic attempt to "save face" as he twists the facts, tucks tail and runs? lol.
Typical.
Are you saying that you still want to limit the content and number of threads one may generate?

A simple yes or no will do?

“You can feel it in your guts ”

Since: May 09

Trump is completely NUTS!

#23 Jan 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
Well good! It looks like the point I made about Ethel, Humming etc complaining about the content and duration of threads can maybe finally be put to rest. As they are now claiming to have no knowledge of ever complaining about the content and number of threads created.
Always remember, more free speech not less!
Its OK not to agree, but it is always wrong to try and squelch free speech.
Ok....now please explain how I or anyone else has attempted to 'squelch" your free speech?

However, it is evident you are trying to squelch ours because you can't stand resistance. I am really sorry your attempt to gain fans and support has failed.

Create any negative thread you want.... just don't expect the rest of us to shut up and not voice our opinions back when we disagree. If you do, then that only proves it is you (not us) who wants to suppress the views of others ---all because they are different from yours. Quite frankly, you have proven it already!

“Marriage=Love+Co mmitment.....”

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#24 Jan 18, 2013
What's the matter Pollster, women getting uppity again, or just another desperate attempt to get attention?
Pollster

Lewistown, OH

#25 Jan 18, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
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Ok....now please explain how I or anyone else has attempted to 'squelch" your free speech?
However, it is evident you are trying to squelch ours because you can't stand resistance. I am really sorry your attempt to gain fans and support has failed.
Create any negative thread you want.... just don't expect the rest of us to shut up and not voice our opinions back when we disagree. If you do, then that only proves it is you (not us) who wants to suppress the views of others ---all because they are different from yours. Quite frankly, you have proven it already!
{Ok....now please explain how I or anyone else has attempted to 'squelch" your free speech?}

Your to easy! My threads have been removed in an attempt to squelch the threads and the truth of what I have been showing on a number of issues. And the only reason they were removed is because individuals whine to topix.

Look at Ethel's post alone whining about the number and content of my threads.

Thank you for making my point!

Pollster

Lewistown, OH

#26 Jan 18, 2013
LindaS wrote:
What's the matter Pollster, women getting uppity again, or just another desperate attempt to get attention?
Oh now, women should be uppity because after all, they are the reason men feel ten feet tall when they walk in a room with one. At least I feel that way about my awesome wife!

And As I have said, if God ever made anything better then the woman, he kept it for himself!

Its about time the atheist let you post, welcome back!

“You can feel it in your guts ”

Since: May 09

Trump is completely NUTS!

#27 Jan 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
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{Ok....now please explain how I or anyone else has attempted to 'squelch" your free speech?}
Your to easy! My threads have been removed in an attempt to squelch the threads and the truth of what I have been showing on a number of issues. And the only reason they were removed is because individuals whine to topix.
Look at Ethel's post alone whining about the number and content of my threads.
Thank you for making my point!
If your so called 'free speech " offends others, or threatens another group of people, then Topix monitors have every right to take down your comments. Free speech does not entitle you to yell FIRE in a crowded theater. Free speech does not entitle you to slander of libel others. You can express your opinions but that does not include your using right hate speech. You have a right to express your thoughts as long as you do not incite actions that will eventually harm others. You have freedom of speech, but that doesn't include the distribution of pornography or other offensive material. Having 'freedom" to voice your views also carries with it a responsibility for the consequences of your words. Basically, you do not have total freedom to express whatever you want to say when you know others find your words are vulgar, a threat, or offensive. Their are limits to what you can do with your right to free expression.

“You can feel it in your guts ”

Since: May 09

Trump is completely NUTS!

#28 Jan 18, 2013
There not their.
Pollster

Lewistown, OH

#29 Jan 18, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
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If your so called 'free speech " offends others, or threatens another group of people, then Topix monitors have every right to take down your comments. Free speech does not entitle you to yell FIRE in a crowded theater. Free speech does not entitle you to slander of libel others. You can express your opinions but that does not include your using right hate speech. You have a right to express your thoughts as long as you do not incite actions that will eventually harm others. You have freedom of speech, but that doesn't include the distribution of pornography or other offensive material. Having 'freedom" to voice your views also carries with it a responsibility for the consequences of your words. Basically, you do not have total freedom to express whatever you want to say when you know others find your words are vulgar, a threat, or offensive. Their are limits to what you can do with your right to free expression.
Spoken like a true liberal!

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#30 Jan 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying that you still want to limit the content and number of threads one may generate?
A simple yes or no will do?
Actually, a simple yes or no will not do, especially in this case. And I will explain why.

How many actual debates have you seen where the participants are required to give a simple yes or no answer? None?

To request a yes or no answer with no supporting dialogue makes it appear as though the one asking the question is afraid to hear a real answer that they may not be able to rebut.

So, my answer to your question is two-fold.

No, I do not want to limit the content and number of threads that honest, rational posters generate.

As far as limiting the content and number of threads that you, yourself, generate, my answer would have to be yes. Again, I will tell you why.

I do not have a problem with you expressing your opinions, whether or not I agree with any of them. I believe you should be able to express whatever opinion you wish....But when an opposing idea is presented to you, you classically do not have, nor ever have had, the ability to give a direct and honest answer in your own words. It is your style to ignore and evade, or twist words or change the subject when presented with certain facts or questions that you know you cannot answer honestly.

I will give you an example. It is pretty much common knowledge here that you manipulate polls and abuse the post judging feature. One need only take a look at some of your OPs to see that this is evident. I believe on the "What the Bible does not say" thread, your original post features 48 "agrees", 46 "interestings" and 44 "brilliants". That is just not logical. This particular thread stands out in my mind because when I asked you point blank if you could deny that you, or someone close to you, were judging your posts over and over again, you could not give me a straight answer. I have asked you this same question several times and I have seen others pose it, and similar questions to you over the years, and every single time, you ignored, twisted, or evaded. That seems to be your style when presented with truths you choose to ignore.

This is just one example of why I think you are a dishonest poster, so continue to give your opinions here, and I will continue to either ignore them, or call you out on them as I feel the need. Expect me to mostly ignore, though, as I know an honest answer is not always forthcoming where you are concerned.
Pollster

Lewistown, OH

#31 Jan 18, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
<quoted text>
If your so called 'free speech " offends others, or threatens another group of people, then Topix monitors have every right to take down your comments. Free speech does not entitle you to yell FIRE in a crowded theater. Free speech does not entitle you to slander of libel others. You can express your opinions but that does not include your using right hate speech. You have a right to express your thoughts as long as you do not incite actions that will eventually harm others. You have freedom of speech, but that doesn't include the distribution of pornography or other offensive material. Having 'freedom" to voice your views also carries with it a responsibility for the consequences of your words. Basically, you do not have total freedom to express whatever you want to say when you know others find your words are vulgar, a threat, or offensive. Their are limits to what you can do with your right to free expression.
{If your so called 'free speech " offends others}

I want you to think about your statement for a minute.

“You can feel it in your guts ”

Since: May 09

Trump is completely NUTS!

#32 Jan 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
Spoken like a true liberal!
No, spoken like a true American who believes in equality, equal rights, and justice for all......, not just a few.

“You can feel it in your guts ”

Since: May 09

Trump is completely NUTS!

#33 Jan 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
{If your so called 'free speech " offends others}
I want you to think about your statement for a minute.
Is that really too hard for you to understand?
Pollster

Lewistown, OH

#34 Jan 18, 2013
Ethel K wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, a simple yes or no will not do, especially in this case. And I will explain why.
How many actual debates have you seen where the participants are required to give a simple yes or no answer? None?
To request a yes or no answer with no supporting dialogue makes it appear as though the one asking the question is afraid to hear a real answer that they may not be able to rebut.
So, my answer to your question is two-fold.
No, I do not want to limit the content and number of threads that honest, rational posters generate.
As far as limiting the content and number of threads that you, yourself, generate, my answer would have to be yes. Again, I will tell you why.
I do not have a problem with you expressing your opinions, whether or not I agree with any of them. I believe you should be able to express whatever opinion you wish....But when an opposing idea is presented to you, you classically do not have, nor ever have had, the ability to give a direct and honest answer in your own words. It is your style to ignore and evade, or twist words or change the subject when presented with certain facts or questions that you know you cannot answer honestly.
I will give you an example. It is pretty much common knowledge here that you manipulate polls and abuse the post judging feature. One need only take a look at some of your OPs to see that this is evident. I believe on the "What the Bible does not say" thread, your original post features 48 "agrees", 46 "interestings" and 44 "brilliants". That is just not logical. This particular thread stands out in my mind because when I asked you point blank if you could deny that you, or someone close to you, were judging your posts over and over again, you could not give me a straight answer. I have asked you this same question several times and I have seen others pose it, and similar questions to you over the years, and every single time, you ignored, twisted, or evaded. That seems to be your style when presented with truths you choose to ignore.
This is just one example of why I think you are a dishonest poster, so continue to give your opinions here, and I will continue to either ignore them, or call you out on them as I feel the need. Expect me to mostly ignore, though, as I know an honest answer is not always forthcoming where you are concerned.
{as I know an honest answer is not always forthcoming where you are concerned.}

Here is what I believe you are upset with.

You accuse me of judging, hate, bigotry.

But I do none of these things.

I give you scripture, and it is in reality the Scripture that judges you.

As I have said your fight has never really been with me, but the God and scripture I speak.

There is no doubt whatsoever that the scripture has brought you under conviction as I show it to you. And this is what you are angry about as you fight against it and what God has declared.

You talk about love thine neighbor, but fight scripture and God on other issues the scripture clearly condemn. It is dishonest!

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

{and sharper than any two edged sword}

The scripture I share cuts, not physically but emotionally! It pierces the heart. This is why your angry.

[and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.}

The word discerner is the word critic. The word I share is the discerner, the critic of what you in fact carry in your heart.

This is why you are angry at God and scripture.

It is not me your angry with, its the word, the word has discerned your thoughts and intents concerning your rebellion against Gods instruction.

All scripture clearly condemns homosexuality for example. But you fight this reality within your heart.

Make your peace with God.

Pollster

Lewistown, OH

#35 Jan 18, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
<quoted text> Is that really too hard for you to understand?
Let me know when you find someone that has not offended another. You didn't think about your statement.

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#36 Jan 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
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{as I know an honest answer is not always forthcoming where you are concerned.}
Here is what I believe you are upset with.
You accuse me of judging, hate, bigotry.
But I do none of these things.
I give you scripture, and it is in reality the Scripture that judges you.
As I have said your fight has never really been with me, but the God and scripture I speak.
There is no doubt whatsoever that the scripture has brought you under conviction as I show it to you. And this is what you are angry about as you fight against it and what God has declared.
You talk about love thine neighbor, but fight scripture and God on other issues the scripture clearly condemn. It is dishonest!
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
{and sharper than any two edged sword}
The scripture I share cuts, not physically but emotionally! It pierces the heart. This is why your angry.
[and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.}
The word discerner is the word critic. The word I share is the discerner, the critic of what you in fact carry in your heart.
This is why you are angry at God and scripture.
It is not me your angry with, its the word, the word has discerned your thoughts and intents concerning your rebellion against Gods instruction.
All scripture clearly condemns homosexuality for example. But you fight this reality within your heart.
Make your peace with God.
Thank you for aiding in proving my point. You have once again attempted to change the subject by casting aspersions on my relationship with God! Unbelievable!(or not) Shall I bump my personal religious beliefs thread for you again?

Most of your post is nonsensical blather intended to deflect and cast a smoke screen on the original subject, which you introduced and have not the ability to debate straightforwardly. Typical

So I will concentrate on just this one item...."You accuse me of judging, hate, bigotry.
But I do none of these things."

I take this to mean, you are stating that you do not, nor have you ever, utilized the post judging feature on Topix?
Pollster

Lewistown, OH

#37 Jan 18, 2013
Ethel K wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for aiding in proving my point. You have once again attempted to change the subject by casting aspersions on my relationship with God! Unbelievable!(or not) Shall I bump my personal religious beliefs thread for you again?
Most of your post is nonsensical blather intended to deflect and cast a smoke screen on the original subject, which you introduced and have not the ability to debate straightforwardly. Typical
So I will concentrate on just this one item...."You accuse me of judging, hate, bigotry.
But I do none of these things."
I take this to mean, you are stating that you do not, nor have you ever, utilized the post judging feature on Topix?
{I take this to mean, you are stating that you do not, nor have you ever, utilized the post judging feature on Topix?}

Yes I do judge utilize the feature at times. But If I really had the ability to judge my post, would I have so many bad marks?

Now, Back to your anger at God and Scripture. As I have said, there is no doubt that you are under conviction.

It is much more pleasant to just believe scripture then to fight against it.

You can still love people and stand on principle. Jesus did it all the time.

Why would you consider scripture nonsensical blather?

As a man thinketh so is he. You claim to be a believer but you never have excitement concerning scripture.

Actually you seem rather narrow concerning scriptures appeal.

I have always wondered why a person that claims to believe laugh's when an atheist makes fun of God and scripture? I really dont see the humor.

Make your peace with God. I wont matter, he will!

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#38 Jan 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
{I take this to mean, you are stating that you do not, nor have you ever, utilized the post judging feature on Topix?}
Yes I do judge utilize the feature at times. But If I really had the ability to judge my post, would I have so many bad marks?
You answered half honestly and the other half was deflection by answering a question with a question.

The half you answered honestly disproved your contention that you do not judge.

Rather than answering with a question....why not be honest and tell us whether or not you have repeatedly utilized the feature to judge your own posts in a positive light?

I will respond to the rest of your post separately....I await an honest and straightforward answer to this question.

Since: Apr 12

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#39 Jan 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>

Now, Back to your anger at God and Scripture.

Why would you consider scripture nonsensical blather?
I hope you don't mind if I break your smoke screen post down and reply a bit at a time, which I have decided to do even though it is off-topic.

Again you display your dishonesty as a poster with the top statement. You cannot know that I am angry with God. That is an assumption on your part. An incorrect one at that....why do you feel my derision of you somehow equates to hatred of God? That makes no sense.

As for the second statement, did I say scripture was nonsensical blather? No. I said your post, as a whole, was. Here is why...

You stated, "There is no doubt whatsoever that the scripture has brought you under conviction as I show it to you. And this is what you are angry about as you fight against it and what God has declared."

There is no doubt whatsoever? How can you, in all honesty, proclaim such a thing? You speak in absolutes, which you should not do in an honest discussion.(ask Don...he will agree) Then you go on to state, unequivocally, that this is what I am angry about. How in the world can you possibly, without a doubt, know that? First of all, I am not angry, I am disgusted...second of all, I am not disgusted with scripture or God, I am disgusted with you and your comments....BIG difference. And I think I have shown here the reasons for that disgust.

You go on to state, "The scripture I share cuts, not physically but emotionally! It pierces the heart. This is why your angry.".....see above explanation.

Then, again, "This is why you are angry at God and scripture.
It is not me your angry with, its the word, the word has discerned your thoughts and intents concerning your rebellion against Gods instruction."......See above....

So, there you have your answer....dishonesty in your posts and why I consider it nonsensical blather.

.

“You can feel it in your guts ”

Since: May 09

Trump is completely NUTS!

#40 Jan 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
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{
As I have said your fight has never really been with me, but the God and scripture I speak.
There is no doubt whatsoever that the scripture has brought you under conviction as I show it to you. And this is what you are angry about as you fight against it and what God has declared.
You talk about love thine neighbor, but fight scripture and God on other issues the scripture clearly condemn. It is dishonest!

The scripture I share cuts, not physically but emotionally! It pierces the heart. This is why your angry.
[and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.}
The word discerner is the word critic. The word I share is the discerner, the critic of what you in fact carry in your heart.
This is why you are angry at God and scripture.
I
Make your peace with God.
You poor man! Anyone with half a brain reading all your anti-gay rhetoric can see how you despise gays. You don't have to come right out and say, " I hate gays," for them to see it because it is written in between the lines........or should I say repeated over and over again between the lines in dozens and dozens of your threads?.
----On another thread, Ethel pulled up an old statement you made from an older thread, and it certainly expressed your hatred for gay people ........ and there's no doubt about it!!!----
Why so much trepidation and loathing for one thing you consider a "sin?' Why aren't you throwing fits about adultery? People stealing and covertness? How about LYING, or goodness, people murdering other people? If God truly views homosexuality as a sin, it is no greater than any of the others.....Sin would be sin in his eyses! Yet it obsesses you as the # ONE abomination. Your can't think of anything else. This tells me there is a psychological reason for your obsession. Either you were hurt by a homosexual....perhaps someone of the opposite sex who you loved finally came out and told you she no longer loved you because she loved a woman, OR you are fighting your own deep-seeated attraction for the same sex.
I am no stranger to the Bible, and neither am I to Christian thought. I do not pay much attention to your interpretation of scripture because it is always translated to suit your own purposes. I have never seen anyone abuse the Bible as you do in trying to convince others that your convictions and your political views are the only way to think. You also cherry- pick scripture to do this. People give you bible verses to counter your so-called interpretations of scripture, but you totally ignore any verse they give, which proves your understanding is usually wrong! Anyone can throw verses around to mean anything they want!!! You constantly take scripture out of contextt and apply it to some foolish point you are trying to make when it doesn't apply to that subject at all.
So don't flatter yourself when you make such a stupid startement as this: "As I have said your fight has never really been with me, but the God and scripture I speak.
There is no doubt whatsoever that the scripture has brought you under conviction as I show it to you."
No one really agrees with your religious views, and no one sees you as some all-knowing, guru evangelist- pro.........except for Don. Hhmmmmm......now why is that?,
Oh, and by the way. I have much peace in my own personal relationship with God. I wish you could exhibit some peace as well instead of all the fear mongering and hateful intention caused by your distorted view of such a magnificent, Loving Creator!

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