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Democratic Rep: Debt-ceiling blank check is like Emancipation Proclamation

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“ +IAN, AMERICAN, OHIOAN, BELLE”

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#1 Jan 5, 2013
From "CONSERVATIVE BYTE"
WASHINGTON — Democratic Illinois Rep. Danny K. Davis told The Daily Caller that President Obama should have the power to raise the nation’s debt ceiling without congressional approval, citing the example of President Abraham Lincoln issuing the Emancipation Proclamation as a good use of presidential authority.

“Sometimes when we’ve gotten great answers is when presidents have had enough authority to take some actions,” Davis told TheDC on Capitol Hill Friday.“I mean, remember that we just celebrate the 150th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation, and if Abraham Lincoln had not had the power, authority and the will to make that decision, we may have gone on with the war that was going to last several additional years and much longer, and thousands and thousands of people could have and would have, in all probability, lost their lives.”

“So, I think that we should have enough faith and confidence in the president and the president ought to have the authority to make that decision without Congress placing limits or determinates or determinations, and so yes, I think the president should have the ability to make that decision.”

“The fact is the debt limit ought to be used to bring fiscal sanity to Washington, D.C.”(RELATED VIDEO: Boehner says Obama wants same ‘unlimited’ power he opposed for Bush)

The U.S. reached the debt limit on New Year’s Eve, but the Treasury Secretary has taken steps to create an additional $200 billion in “headroom” until the ceiling is raised again. The national debt is currently $16.4 trillion.

Dismissing Republican criticism, Davis said Congress should not “hamper” the president on the issue.

“It would certainly be an expression of the kind of power that we were willing and are willing to provide the president with. Power grab? That might be going a bit far,” Davis told TheDC.

“But, it would certainly give the president the kind of power that sometimes is needed for the decision-making that must take place as opposed to the haggling, the wrangling, the discussing, the disagreeing, the cliffhanging and all of those kinds of things.”
DON W SOUTH

Grafton, OH

#2 Jan 5, 2013
I hope that fellow didn't go to law school.
There goes my name again and again and again!!

Since: Oct 10

Lucas, OH

#4 Jan 6, 2013
GOP ran up our US DEBT for VANITY WARS, and NOW refuse to pay their bills!.

“ +IAN, AMERICAN, OHIOAN, BELLE”

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#5 Jan 6, 2013
The libs on TOPIX & elsewher will use their same hypocritical arguments tyhey used back in 2011 to "RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT."

I will see if I can go back that far & post them.
It will be laughable!
Sandie

Bellefontaine, OH

#6 Jan 6, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
The libs on TOPIX & elsewher will use their same hypocritical arguments tyhey used back in 2011 to "RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT."
I will see if I can go back that far & post them.
It will be laughable!
You do realize that raising the debt ceiling is to pay for debts already spent and approved by Congress, don't you South?

Question for you: How many times did George W raise the debt ceiling?

Since: Oct 10

Lucas, OH

#7 Jan 6, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
The libs on TOPIX & elsewher will use their same hypocritical arguments tyhey used back in 2011 to "RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT."
I will see if I can go back that far & post them.
It will be laughable!
Under Bush, John Boehner & GOP Voted to Raise the Debt Ceiling 19 Times Without Spending Cuts or Offsets you stupid old wrinkle toad.

“ +IAN, AMERICAN, OHIOAN, BELLE”

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#8 Jan 7, 2013
Sandie wrote:
<quoted text>You do realize that raising the debt ceiling is to pay for debts already spent and approved by Congress, don't you South?
Question for you: How many times did George W raise the debt ceiling?
I do not know on GW. I do know this: We owe over 16T in debt. If this nation doesn't get it's in-go ou- go in order, we will no longer be a nation. This deficit spending cannot go on without dire consequences. We are starting to see some of these consequences already, with the weakened dollar and the inflation at the grocery store, down grading of the nation's credit rating,etc. I realize that you think since George Washintgton did it, it's gonna be alright, which indicates you are not taking our coming fiscal disaster seriously. In fact, you most likely think it's all the other GW'S fault. In the end, I predict nothing of any consequence will be done about our deficit spending addiction, because the situation is "going down hill, like a snowball headed for hell..." It will kills us if we do something, & kill us if we don't."

“ +IAN, AMERICAN, OHIOAN, BELLE”

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#9 Jan 7, 2013
Awoo wrote:
<quoted text> Under Bush, John Boehner & GOP Voted to Raise the Debt Ceiling 19 Times Without Spending Cuts or Offsets you stupid old wrinkle toad.
Are you saying that fact makes it OK to carry on? Can't believe you'd think just 'cause the hated reps did it, it's OK. It was not OK in 1933, it was not OK when the reps did it, & it's not OK now. You may wish you had taken this time-bomb a little more seriously instead of demogugeing the issue.

“ +IAN, AMERICAN, OHIOAN, BELLE”

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#10 Jan 7, 2013
SANDIE: "The libs on TOPIX & elsewher will use their same hypocritical arguments they used back in 2011 to "RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT."

I will see if I can go back that far & post them.
It will be laughable!
Mr Phil

Ashburn, VA

#11 Jan 15, 2013
OK, if the Teaparty types want to use the debt limit to cut spending then let's hear exactly what they want to cut. Over the last three years these have been the biggest items in the federal budget: healthcare (medicare/caid), social security, and defense. These three account for 62% of federal spending. What say conservatives? How much do you recommend we cut from these big money areas?
DON W SOUTH

Massillon, OH

#12 Jan 15, 2013
Mr Phil wrote:
OK, if the Teaparty types want to use the debt limit to cut spending then let's hear exactly what they want to cut. Over the last three years these have been the biggest items in the federal budget: healthcare (medicare/caid), social security, and defense. These three account for 62% of federal spending. What say conservatives? How much do you recommend we cut from these big money areas?
They are stupid hypocrites. Good luck getting an answer.

“Truth is Good Medicine that ”

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#13 Jan 15, 2013
Raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, but simply allows the US to pay the debt that Congress already approved. Two wars and huge tax breaks for the rich helped put us on the China credit card, and we will be paying those off for a long time.

Reagan raised the debt ceiling 17 times. Bush senior--8. Clinton--4. G.W. Bush--7. Now, where was all the obstructionists then?
Grandpa Jesus

Bucyrus, OH

#14 Jan 15, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
Raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, but simply allows the US to pay the debt that Congress already approved. Two wars and huge tax breaks for the rich helped put us on the China credit card, and we will be paying those off for a long time.
Reagan raised the debt ceiling 17 times. Bush senior--8. Clinton--4. G.W. Bush--7. Now, where was all the obstructionists then?
Raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, but simply allows the US to pay the debt that Congress already approved. Repeat 1000 times daily.

“ +IAN, AMERICAN, OHIOAN, BELLE”

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#15 Jan 15, 2013
Sandie wrote:
<quoted text>You do realize that raising the debt ceiling is to pay for debts already spent and approved by Congress, don't you South?
Question for you: How many times did George W raise the debt ceiling?
I don't know. It doesn't really matter. Your premise is that since Bush raised the debt limit sooo many times, it's OK for OBAMA to raise it. Is that what you tell/told your kids. "My Joey smoked weed 10 times so it's OK for your jimmy to smoke weed---how any times?" Your premise shows you are not intellectuall able to come up with any ideas to do what is necessary to save our way-of-life, but intead are more interested in partisanship.

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#16 Jan 15, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know. It doesn't really matter. Your premise is that since Bush raised the debt limit sooo many times, it's OK for OBAMA to raise it. Is that what you tell/told your kids. "My Joey smoked weed 10 times so it's OK for your jimmy to smoke weed---how any times?" Your premise shows you are not intellectuall able to come up with any ideas to do what is necessary to save our way-of-life, but intead are more interested in partisanship.
So you are willing to let this country have another credit down-grade like the Tea-party congress caused back during the last debt ceiling debunkle? Is this what you do with your personal obligations....for instance, charge things on a charge card and then refuse to pay for them? If

You do know if government shuts down because of what the GOP threatens doing, that you won't be receiving your Social Security check in the mail, don't you? If the GOP follows through with this, then you can figure they won't be winning any elections in the near future.
Grandpa Jesus

Bucyrus, OH

#17 Jan 15, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know. It doesn't really matter. Your premise is that since Bush raised the debt limit sooo many times, it's OK for OBAMA to raise it. Is that what you tell/told your kids. "My Joey smoked weed 10 times so it's OK for your jimmy to smoke weed---how any times?" Your premise shows you are not intellectuall able to come up with any ideas to do what is necessary to save our way-of-life, but intead are more interested in partisanship.
You're dumb
say what

Zanesville, OH

#18 Jan 15, 2013
Obama was elected on hope and change. So why would he spend money like Bush did?

Right is right even if no one does it. Wrong is wrong even if every one does it.

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#19 Jan 15, 2013
say what wrote:
Obama was elected on hope and change. So why would he spend money like Bush did?
Right is right even if no one does it. Wrong is wrong even if every one does it.


Do you or do you not understand that raising the debt ceiling simply pays the bills that congress has already given their approval? It does not authorize more spending. As a country, isn't it important for us to pay our debts? How will other major governments of the world view the USA if they try to get out from all their obligations?

This is what I don't understand. The 'little' catch here is that the Republicans who claim personal responsibility and support of lower taxes, will actually cause an increase each American's share of the debt by increasing each tax payers portion of the debt if there is another downgrade in US credit. Credit downgrades lead to increased interest rates which lead to more money out of everyones pockets.

“ +IAN, AMERICAN, OHIOAN, BELLE”

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#20 Jan 15, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
<quoted text> So you are willing to let this country have another credit down-grade like the Tea-party congress caused back during the last debt ceiling debunkle? Is this what you do with your personal obligations....for instance, charge things on a charge card and then refuse to pay for them? If
You do know if government shuts down because of what the GOP threatens doing, that you won't be receiving your Social Security check in the mail, don't you? If the GOP follows through with this, then you can figure they won't be winning any elections in the near future.
So you & OBLAMA are willing to let this country have another credit down-grade like he & the democrats caused in 2011 by refusing to cut borrowing by refusing to cut spending like "youins" did back during the last debt ceiling debunkle? Is this what you do with your personal obligations....for instance, charge things on a charge card till it's maxed out, and then demand another credit card?
You do know if government shuts down because of what the GOP threatens doing, that you still should be receiving your Social Security check in the mail, don't you? You do know that SS is self funded don't you & has nothing to do with paying the interest on the 16T + national debt that you seem not concerned about, don't you? If the GOP does not follow through with this, then you can figure that they, too, like the democrats, are kicking the can down the road, bringing our beloved nation closer to economic collapse. With an economic disaster, neither demo or rep will be winning any election, because there likely will not be any!
DON W SOUTH

Massillon, OH

#21 Jan 15, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know. It doesn't really matter. Your premise is that since Bush raised the debt limit sooo many times, it's OK for OBAMA to raise it. Is that what you tell/told your kids. "My Joey smoked weed 10 times so it's OK for your jimmy to smoke weed---how any times?" Your premise shows you are not intellectuall able to come up with any ideas to do what is necessary to save our way-of-life, but intead are more interested in partisanship.
What are you talking about? What cuts would you implement to 'save our way of life'?

Only two cuts I can think of are nation building and military spending?

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