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Oh Yes, Sequester is Obama's Idea, Bob woodward Says

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Inertia

Spanish Fort, AL

#1 Feb 23, 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bob-wo...

Nothing new here, Obama is a liar.

Famous liberal Washington Post newsman/author says Obama and aides lie about who originated the sequester idea. "A majority of Republicans did vote for the Budget Control Act that summer, which included the sequester."

".....the final deal reached between Vice President Biden and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) in 2011 included an agreement that there would be no tax increases in the sequester in exchange for what the president was insisting on: an agreement that the nationís debt ceiling would be increased for 18 months, so Obama would not have to go through another such negotiation in 2012, when he was running for reelection.

So when the president asks that a substitute for the sequester include not just spending cuts but also new revenue, he is moving the goal posts. His call for a balanced approach is reasonable, and he makes a strong case that those in the top income brackets could and should pay more. But that was not the deal he made."
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Marysville, OH

#2 Feb 23, 2013
you people need to take a civic's lesson to see how bills are made and passed in Congress

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#3 Feb 24, 2013
leave bellefontaine wrote:
you people need to take a civic's lesson to see how bills are made and passed in Congress
"The POTUS proposes, the COTUS disposes."
leave bellefontaine

Marysville, OH

#4 Feb 24, 2013
the president can propose anything he wants donald just like congress can but all 3, the house, senate and president are needed to pass a bill, he can't make an exceutive order to make this happen and u know it.. they are all to blame for this just fix it stop acting like 3rd graders

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#5 Feb 24, 2013
leave bellefontaine wrote:
the president can propose anything he wants donald just like congress can but all 3, the house, senate and president are needed to pass a bill, he can't make an exceutive order to make this happen and u know it.. they are all to blame for this just fix it stop acting like 3rd graders
" they are all to blame for this..."

Making a statement such as above is easy to do as it requires little or no thought. Not all are to blame. The informed voter finds out which of the 536 are "to blame" and makes an informed decision, then, goes on from there to do his duty as citizen!

To do otherwise is a "cop out."
GBA

Saint Marys, OH

#6 Feb 24, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
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" they are all to blame for this..."
Making a statement such as above is easy to do as it requires little or no thought. Not all are to blame. The informed voter finds out which of the 536 are "to blame" and makes an informed decision, then, goes on from there to do his duty as citizen!
To do otherwise is a "cop out."
You are right Don, the guy you replied to is proof that idiots and slackers are stuffing the ballot box.

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#7 Feb 24, 2013
I posted this on one of your other sequester threads so will repeat it here;

I don't 't know where some of the Republicans are getting their info at or why they are trying to re-write history of the events leading to the sequester, but I remember what happened pretty well. Watched a lot of what was going on LIVE on C-Span. Basically, the repubs were holding the country hostage, threatening to default on debts already OKed in both houses of Congress, so the Obama administration was forced to do something along the lines to sequester because the GOP threatened how it was willing to renege on the trust that the federal government would pay its bills.

The repubs used the debt ceiling by threatening to default as a tool to force the White
House to make cuts in spending, so sequester would NEVER have been suggested if not for this threat of default. BOTH sides
agreed to take the next step together! Democrats wanted the Bush tax cuts repealed and the Repubs wanted to repeal Obama's health care law. That was too much for both sides, so they settled on cuts for security spending,( a pain for republicans) balanced by cuts for domestic spending
(pain for democrats). Both parties thought they could reach an agreement before the deadline so these cuts would not take place. Even Eric Cantor said, "tonight the House prevented default and boosted economic certainty by insuring America pays its bills while we start getting our fiscal house in order."
He went on to say he didn't think the sequester would ever happen because he was confident an agreement would be reached by the deadline,( I believe the republicans also thought an agreement they really could like would be reached long before March because by then, they figured a President Romney , and possibly a newly controlled Republican Senate, would get them all the changes they wanted!!)

So, republicans cannot hide from this acting like Obama shoved it down their throats, because at the time, they 'crowed' how they won a great victory.
Boehner stated he got 98% of what he wanted, so republicans really felt they got the best deal and got the best of the Democrats. They need to owe up and shut-up! When you vote for something, sign it, that means you support bit!

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Zenville

#8 Feb 24, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
I posted this on one of your other sequester threads so will repeat it here;
I don't 't know where some of the Republicans are getting their info at or why they are trying to re-write history of the events leading to the sequester, but I remember what happened pretty well. Watched a lot of what was going on LIVE on C-Span. Basically, the repubs were holding the country hostage, threatening to default on debts already OKed in both houses of Congress, so the Obama administration was forced to do something along the lines to sequester because the GOP threatened how it was willing to renege on the trust that the federal government would pay its bills.
The repubs used the debt ceiling by threatening to default as a tool to force the White
House to make cuts in spending, so sequester would NEVER have been suggested if not for this threat of default. BOTH sides
agreed to take the next step together! Democrats wanted the Bush tax cuts repealed and the Repubs wanted to repeal Obama's health care law. That was too much for both sides, so they settled on cuts for security spending,( a pain for republicans) balanced by cuts for domestic spending
(pain for democrats). Both parties thought they could reach an agreement before the deadline so these cuts would not take place. Even Eric Cantor said, "tonight the House prevented default and boosted economic certainty by insuring America pays its bills while we start getting our fiscal house in order."
He went on to say he didn't think the sequester would ever happen because he was confident an agreement would be reached by the deadline,( I believe the republicans also thought an agreement they really could like would be reached long before March because by then, they figured a President Romney , and possibly a newly controlled Republican Senate, would get them all the changes they wanted!!)
So, republicans cannot hide from this acting like Obama shoved it down their throats, because at the time, they 'crowed' how they won a great victory.
Boehner stated he got 98% of what he wanted, so republicans really felt they got the best deal and got the best of the Democrats. They need to owe up and shut-up! When you vote for something, sign it, that means you support bit!
Don't confuse these people with facts, they live in fantasy land and enjoy being there.
Don South won't touch this with a giraffe's neck.

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#9 Feb 24, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
I posted this on one of your other sequester threads so will repeat it here;
I don't 't know where some of the Republicans are getting their info at or why they are trying to re-write history of the events leading to the sequester, but I remember what happened pretty well. Watched a lot of what was going on LIVE on C-Span. Basically, the repubs were holding the country hostage, threatening to default on debts already OKed in both houses of Congress, so the Obama administration was forced to do something along the lines to sequester because the GOP threatened how it was willing to renege on the trust that the federal government would pay its bills.
The repubs used the debt ceiling by threatening to default as a tool to force the White
House to make cuts in spending, so sequester would NEVER have been suggested if not for this threat of default. BOTH sides
agreed to take the next step together! Democrats wanted the Bush tax cuts repealed and the Repubs wanted to repeal Obama's health care law. That was too much for both sides, so they settled on cuts for security spending,( a pain for republicans) balanced by cuts for domestic spending
(pain for democrats). Both parties thought they could reach an agreement before the deadline so these cuts would not take place. Even Eric Cantor said, "tonight the House prevented default and boosted economic certainty by insuring America pays its bills while we start getting our fiscal house in order."
He went on to say he didn't think the sequester would ever happen because he was confident an agreement would be reached by the deadline,( I believe the republicans also thought an agreement they really could like would be reached long before March because by then, they figured a President Romney , and possibly a newly controlled Republican Senate, would get them all the changes they wanted!!)
So, republicans cannot hide from this acting like Obama shoved it down their throats, because at the time, they 'crowed' how they won a great victory.
Boehner stated he got 98% of what he wanted, so republicans really felt they got the best deal and got the best of the Democrats. They need to owe up and shut-up! When you vote for something, sign it, that means you support bit!
The "great victory" ended when OBAMA, once again, broke his word.

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#10 Feb 24, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>The "great victory" ended when OBAMA, once again, broke his word.
What are you taking about?

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#11 Feb 24, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
<quoted text> What are you taking about?
Increasing the stakes by wanting new taxes on people with incomes over $250,000.00
GBA

Saint Marys, OH

#12 Feb 24, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
<quoted text> What are you taking about?
Watch it and weep little donkey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup...
GBA

Saint Marys, OH

#13 Feb 24, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text> Increasing the stakes by wanting new taxes on people with incomes over $250,000.00
Spot on Don. I think I know why Hummingturd is on Topix so much; she is trolling for attention.

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#14 Feb 24, 2013
GBA wrote:
<quoted text>
Spot on Don. I think I know why Hummingturd is on Topix so much; she is trolling for attention.
OMG.....now how did you guess! You must be a prophet or something! Bahahahaha.

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#15 Feb 25, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
<quoted text> OMG.....now how did you guess! You must be a prophet or something! Bahahahaha.
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
<quoted text> What are you taking about?
Increasing the stakes by wanting new taxes on people with incomes over $250,000.00

GBA: She hasn't denied this fact yet. Suppose she didn't know?
Do you think she will pull an OBAMA & "make things up."
GBA

Saint Marys, OH

#16 Feb 25, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
<quoted text> What are you taking about?
Increasing the stakes by wanting new taxes on people with incomes over $250,000.00
GBA: She hasn't denied this fact yet. Suppose she didn't know?
Do you think she will pull an OBAMA & "make things up."
She may be more black than he is.

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#17 Feb 25, 2013
GBA wrote:
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She may be more black than he is.
GBA: Black or not, I've noticed when you throw HUMM one that she can't wiggle out of, she gives you "the silent treatment." She has never answered me on OBLAMA changing the goal post, cause she can't. She sounds sooo much like MAXINE WATTERS, demo Cong from CA.

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#18 Feb 25, 2013
Bob Woodward is off the liberal reservation again. Last time he wrote a book favorable to GWB. He had to write one against BUSH to get back on the reservation. Just wait for his new book.

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#19 Feb 25, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>
GBA: Black or not, I've noticed when you throw HUMM one that she can't wiggle out of, she gives you "the silent treatment." She has never answered me on OBLAMA changing the goal post, cause she can't. She sounds sooo much like MAXINE WATTERS, demo Cong from CA.
I'm giving you the silent treatment because neither of your statements make much sense and I don't know WTH you are talking about.

First you said, The "great victory" ended when OBAMA, once again, broke his word.

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#20 Feb 25, 2013
Hummingbird 4 Real wrote:
<quoted text> I'm giving you the silent treatment because neither of your statements make much sense and I don't know WTH you are talking about.
First you said, The "great victory" ended when OBAMA, once again, broke his word.
poor excuse for not answering about POTUS moving the goal post on taxes.

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