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Department of Homeland Security warning!!!!!

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#1 Apr 16, 2009
The Department of Homeland Security is warning American's to be on the lookout for Veterans and right wing Republican's. The Secretary of Department of Homeland Security (Janet Napolitano) is advising law enforcement and the American people to be on the look out for suspicious activity and possible terrorist attacks from Veterans and right wing Republican's.

Nope. This isn't a joke. Be careful this is what the Obama administration considers a threat.
Olivier

United States

#2 Apr 16, 2009
steve from yellowstone wrote:
The Department of Homeland Security is warning American's to be on the lookout for Veterans and right wing Republican's. The Secretary of Department of Homeland Security (Janet Napolitano) is advising law enforcement and the American people to be on the look out for suspicious activity and possible terrorist attacks from Veterans and right wing Republican's.
Nope. This isn't a joke. Be careful this is what the Obama administration considers a threat.
If they were looking for dumbasses they'd be coming after you first.
KatManDoo

Mansfield, OH

#3 Apr 16, 2009
Semper Fidelis
KatManDoo

Mansfield, OH

#4 Apr 16, 2009

Since: Sep 08

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#5 Apr 16, 2009
Olivier wrote:
If they were looking for dumbasses they'd be coming after you first.
So not only are you calling me a dumbass your calling Veterans dumb ass's? Nice Oliver.
Olivier

United States

#6 Apr 16, 2009
Why don't you say what was really said you idiot.
Both right and left wing groups were mentioned.
The left wing as possibly cyber terrorism,god knows the right isn't smart enought to pull that one off.
Anti abortionist,white supremacy groups and possibly a few misguided vets.
What was Tim McVay? You cherry pick everything!
Olivier

United States

#7 Apr 16, 2009
steve from yellowstone wrote:
<quoted text>
So not only are you calling me a dumbass your calling Veterans dumb ass's? Nice Oliver.
I didn't mention vets, just you!
rotate

Marysville, OH

#8 Apr 16, 2009
I believe Tim McVay pretty much epitomizes the crowd that the DHS is talking about. He is probably a hero to some of the these people ie: steve from jellystone. The fact is some Veteran groups share these concerns, these people are coming home to a mess, they have been thru hell, their PTSD is being ignored and there are no jobs. They just bravely gave their service for a war built on lies. They are pissed off, and rightly so.
These fringe bottom feeder groups will prey on anyone. The KKK, neo nazis, and other fanatics don't care who they exploit. I am beginning to think that Obama's transparency will be a problem for him. People are so intent on making him a villain that they twist everything. Now the rednecks are saying obama wants to take their guns. There is a run on guns, even tho obama clearly has said "I will not take your guns".
Watch the base spin as rove pulls their strings.
Image

Johnstown, OH

#9 Apr 16, 2009
KatManDoo wrote:
Semper Fidelis
"With Courage"
forum

Greenville, SC

#10 Apr 16, 2009
It all boils down to control. When gas was $4.00 a gallon, the president (in the running at the time) said he didn't mind $4.00 a gallon gas, because it will teach Americans how to conserve. Control. The cigarette tax is supposed to go toward children's health care (illegals as well) with the price high as a deterrent to make people stop smoking. Control. Capping salaries for Stimulus recipients was one thing, but looking to cap salaries of non-recipients is over the line. Control. Many companies who were to receive Stimulus money are starting to say "no". That tells something.
Even though both sides were/are being looked at, it still one more item of control.
KatManDoo

Mansfield, OH

#11 Apr 16, 2009
forum, I agree with you. We can call it all sorts of names depending on which side of the political fence one sits on. In other countries, they have a simpler definition for it.

Socialism

Sooner or later the voters will get sick and tired of living in Obamastan, and vote them out. I just hope it is done before we run out of everyone else’s hard-earned money.

Our Federal Government, as envisioned by our founding father’s was supposed to be limited and not interfere with the State's rights to govern the people who lived within their individual borders. When was the last time you heard that on a stump speech from a candidate on either side? Many people don’t realize that prior to 1913 and the 16th Amendment to the Constitution; the Federal Income tax was not a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system. In less than 100 years, we have grown from a young and frugal nation to the beast of consumption like the world has never seen. The last time one nation took so much from so few the Romans held swords and ate with their remaining fingers off the table. I would hate to think we will suffer the same fate as our Italian ancestors.

If you would like a good “non partisan” read complete with graphs visit this website.

http://www.federalbudget.com/

For those of you who won’t click on it, realize that the top three items the Feds spend money on are Income Redistribution, Defense, and paying the minimum payment of the interest on the money we already owe. In the bookkeeping methodology of the government, the Social Security Trust fund expenditures would be the second largest item, but they keep it “off book” to make the deficit look smaller. This Ponzi Scheme is far greater than Bernie Madoff could have ever dreamed up. The best part is the poor suckers that are being taken or none other than you and I. The only way out of this mess is to allow prices to increase to the point where a dollar is worth less. In other countries, they have a simpler definition for this called

Inflation

Socialism and Inflation are the two linchpins that keep the powers that be at the head of this style of government. They are help in place by the glue called fear. The current administration backed by the liberal media cheering section is well aware of this and takes us by the hand and leads us from one crisis to another. Last week it was the Pirates, and this weekend it will be the Mexican Drug Lords. A few more mass killing of our citizens by crazed neighbors and it will be gun control

Look over the website above and tell me if you see another way out of this mess. If you are convincing, I just might vote for you. I listen to others opinions, because it is impossible to learn while one is speaking. The site tries to offer opposing viewpoints as well.

Since: Sep 08

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#12 Apr 16, 2009
rotate wrote:
I believe Tim McVay pretty much epitomizes the crowd that the DHS is talking about. He is probably a hero to some of the these people ie: steve from jellystone.
I don't look up to people who set off bombs, one of the reasons why I don't agree with barry hussein?
Hummingbird

Danville, OH

#13 Apr 16, 2009
steve from yellowstone wrote:
The Department of Homeland Security is warning American's to be on the lookout for Veterans and right wing Republican's. The Secretary of Department of Homeland Security (Janet Napolitano) is advising law enforcement and the American people to be on the look out for suspicious activity and possible terrorist attacks from Veterans and right wing Republican's.
Nope. This isn't a joke. Be careful this is what the Obama administration considers a threat.
There's a big difference, Steve, between "right-ring Republicans" and rightwing extremism. You're stretching the Truth a bit......but you already know that, don't you?

Recession fueling right-wing extremism, U.S. says

By Jane Sutton Jane Sutton – Tue Apr 14, 3:56 pm ET
MIAMI (Reuters)– Right-wing extremists in the United States are gaining new recruits by exploiting fears about the economy and the election of the first black U.S. president, the Department of Homeland Security warned in a report to law enforcement officials.

The April 7 report, which Reuters and other news media obtained on Tuesday, said such fears were driving a resurgence in "recruitment and radicalization activity" by white supremacist groups, antigovernment extremists and militia movements. It did not identify any by name.

DHS had no specific information about pending violence and said threats had so far been "largely rhetorical."

But it warned that home foreclosures, unemployment and other consequences of the economic recession "could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists."

"To the extent that these factors persist, right-wing extremism is likely to grow in strength," DHS said.

The report warned that military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with combat skills could be recruitment targets, especially those having trouble finding jobs or fitting back into civilian society.

The department "is concerned that right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities," the report said.

DHS spokeswoman Sara Kuban said on Tuesday the report was one of an ongoing series of threat assessments aimed at "a greater understanding of violent radicalization in the U.S."

A similar assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January was distributed to federal, state and local police agencies at that time.

"These assessments are done all the time, this is nothing unusual," Kuban said.

The Department of Homeland Security was formed in response to the September 11 attacks of 2001 and has focused largely on threats from Islamist extremists.

The report said domestic right-wing terrorist groups grew during the economic recession of the early 1990s but subsided as the economy improved.

Government scrutiny disrupted violent plots following the April 1995 bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City by Army veteran Timothy McVeigh which killed 168 people.

LONE WOLVES

"Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by lone wolves and small terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years," the report said.

The Internet has made it easier to locate specific targets, communicate with like-minded people and find information on bombs and weapons, it said.

Extremist groups are preying on fears that President Barack Obama, the first African American U.S. president, would restrict gun ownership, boost immigration and expand social programs for minorities, the report said.

It said such groups were also exploiting anti-Semitic sentiment with accusations that "a cabal of Jewish financial elites" had conspired to collapse the economy.

"This trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen," the report said.

(Additional reporting by Randall Mikkelsen in Washington, editing by Jim Loney and Alan Elsner
forum

Greenville, SC

#14 Apr 16, 2009
KatManDoo wrote:
forum, I agree with you. We can call it all sorts of names depending on which side of the political fence one sits on. In other countries, they have a simpler definition for it.
Socialism
Sooner or later the voters will get sick and tired of living in Obamastan, and vote them out. I just hope it is done before we run out of everyone else’s hard-earned money.
Our Federal Government, as envisioned by our founding father’s was supposed to be limited and not interfere with the State's rights to govern the people who lived within their individual borders. When was the last time you heard that on a stump speech from a candidate on either side? Many people don’t realize that prior to 1913 and the 16th Amendment to the Constitution; the Federal Income tax was not a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system. In less than 100 years, we have grown from a young and frugal nation to the beast of consumption like the world has never seen. The last time one nation took so much from so few the Romans held swords and ate with their remaining fingers off the table. I would hate to think we will suffer the same fate as our Italian ancestors.
If you would like a good “non partisan” read complete with graphs visit this website.
http://www.federalbudget.com/
For those of you who won’t click on it, realize that the top three items the Feds spend money on are Income Redistribution, Defense, and paying the minimum payment of the interest on the money we already owe. In the bookkeeping methodology of the government, the Social Security Trust fund expenditures would be the second largest item, but they keep it “off book” to make the deficit look smaller. This Ponzi Scheme is far greater than Bernie Madoff could have ever dreamed up. The best part is the poor suckers that are being taken or none other than you and I. The only way out of this mess is to allow prices to increase to the point where a dollar is worth less. In other countries, they have a simpler definition for this called
Inflation
Socialism and Inflation are the two linchpins that keep the powers that be at the head of this style of government. They are help in place by the glue called fear. The current administration backed by the liberal media cheering section is well aware of this and takes us by the hand and leads us from one crisis to another. Last week it was the Pirates, and this weekend it will be the Mexican Drug Lords. A few more mass killing of our citizens by crazed neighbors and it will be gun control
Look over the website above and tell me if you see another way out of this mess. If you are convincing, I just might vote for you. I listen to others opinions, because it is impossible to learn while one is speaking. The site tries to offer opposing viewpoints as well.
This information is enlightening. Thanks for the post and link. The direction we are heading is scary, isn't it?
Olivier

United States

#15 Apr 16, 2009
Socialism = Medicare&Social Security

Maybe you would like to take the these programs away from your parents? This is socialism.

Not some far out baby killing gun controlling,left wing, take away your land type of programs. Programs that actually do some good, humanitarian programs.
I don't mind helping my parents,do you?
I guess anyone who supports these programs is a socialist.

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#16 Apr 16, 2009
Olivier wrote:
Both right and left wing groups were mentioned.
The left wing as possibly cyber terrorism,god knows
Really? Which left wings groups were mentioned and when did they mention cyber terrorism?

Did you even read the report?
buhok aparador

Gatlinburg, TN

#17 Apr 16, 2009
KatManDoo- Excellent post! What an eye opener!
chickadee

Bucyrus, OH

#18 Apr 16, 2009
steve from yellowstone wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Which left wings groups were mentioned and when did they mention cyber terrorism?
Did you even read the report?
The department's definition of left-wing extremism in the March 26 report includes a reference to violence, stating these groups that embrace anticapitalist, communist or socialist beliefs seek "to bring about change through violent revolution rather than through established political processes."

These reports are part of the department's routine analysis of intelligence information to give to law enforcement agencies guidance on possible security threats.

In February, the department issued a similar warning about possible cyber attacks from left wing extremists. In September, the agency reported that right-wing extremists over the past five years had used the immigration debate as a recruiting tool.

You can read the full artcle here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090417/ap_on_go_...
KatManDoo

Mansfield, OH

#19 Apr 16, 2009
buhok aparador wrote:
KatManDoo- Excellent post! What an eye opener!
It is my purpose in life to give the blind sight, and the mute a voice to tell their story. Bless you for reading the words of men and women much wiser than I. People listen closer when not screamed at or called nasty names.
forum wrote:
<quoted text>This information is enlightening. Thanks for the post and link. The direction we are heading is scary, isn't it?
This will really blow your mind!

Alexander Tyler, in his 1770 book, Cycle of Democracy, wrote,

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.”

“It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal responsibility, always followed by a dictatorship.”

Some interesting observations from civilization’s past follow:

The average of the world’s great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years.

Nations have progressed in this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage.”

The United States has outlasted the average by almost 36 years, but with over 100 federal programs that foster dependency and nearly half of adults getting a monthly “entitlement” check, we are now on the road to bondage.

Americans are becoming increasingly addicted to government, and politicians are the dealers of the drug called “dependency”. Let’s hope and pray we get a benevolent dictator, or that the Chinese are kinder to us than the Mongols were to them in the 13th and 14 Centuries.

This process began long before November, but we are indeed headed down the one way street Mr. Tyler spoke of in 1770. The politicians of both parties like to quote history especially President Lincoln lately. One has to ask do they really learn from the mistakes of the past, or just follow along in the same narrow gauge tracks leading us to an empty mine shaft of debt and interest payments?

Since: Sep 08

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#20 Apr 16, 2009
Olivier wrote:
Socialism = Medicare&Social Security
Maybe you would like to take the these programs away from your parents? This is socialism.
My problem is that the people who are going to be responsible for this debt are not even born yet.

Isn't that what got us into this mess? People over spending, Corporations over spending? Didn't our President just ask the CEO of a major Corporation to step down because he was mismanaging his company? He was spending more money than he had coming in. Isn't our President doing the exact same thing and claiming to lower tax's? How is that being fiscally responsible?

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