Terri Schiavo's Painful Deprivation of Food and Water Began Four Years Ago

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 Terri Schiavo's Painful Deprivation of Food and Water Began Four Years Ago From http://www.lifenews.com/bio2801.html Terri Schiavo's Painful Deprivation of Food and Water Began Four Years Ago by Steven Ertelt LifeNews.com Editor March 19, 2009 Email RSS Print Clearwater, FL -- Terri Schiavo's painful 13 day-long euthanasia ...

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Patients in a persistent vegetative state like Terri Schiavo are a subgroup who suffer severe anoxic brain injury and progress to a state of wakefulness without awareness.

It is judged to be permanent after three months if induced nontraumatically. After 3 months, recovery is rare and life expectancy is approximately 2 to 5 years.

Patients in a persistent vegetative state do not feel pain, nor do they "suffer," says Michael De Georgia, MD, head of the neurology-neurosurgery intensive care unit at the Cleveland Clinic Foundation here.

Pain, as well as suffering, requires consciousness, which is lacking in a person in a persistent vegetative state, says Dr. De Georgia.

"Certainly these patients don't suffer," he adds. "Suffering is really that whole emotional aspect of pain: fear, anxiety, panic surrounding pain. You have to have consciousness to experience these emotions. So just as a person in a persistent vegetative state can't experience pain because of a lack of consciousness, they also don't suffer."

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In 1990, 26-year old Terri Schiavo suffered cardiac arrest. Circulation of life-sustaining oxygen to all parts of her body, including her brain, ceased. By the time her heart was started again, she had suffered catastrophic and medically irreversible brain damage.

According to the expert judgment of neurologists who examined her, Terri Schiavo entered into a ‘persistent (or permanent) vegetative state’.‘PVS’ describes ‘the behaviour of people who have profound cortical brain damage. Although they display a sleep-awake pattern, they respond to stimuli only reflexly and with no evidence of cognitive function….Because the brain-stem is intact, there is spontaneous respiration and heartbeat.…However, there is no known intellectual activity, no rational response, no sentience, no cognitive function. The condition has been summed-up vividly as “awake but not aware”’. So writes Dr. Andrew Fergusson, a Christian physician who disagreed with the 1992 court-approved withdrawal of ‘tube-feeding’ from Tony Bland, a young British man injured when he was crushed in an overcrowded stand at Hillsborough football stadium in April 1989.

Because of Terri Schiavo’s unconsciousness, food in the mouth could well have been ‘aspirated’, going into the lungs rather than the digestive tract, causing infection and perhaps death. So, she was ‘tube-fed’. In Terri Schiavo’s case this meant performing a small operation on her abdomen and the permanent implantation of a plastic tube through which pureed food and fluid was delivered for over fourteen years.

When I looked at the internet video of Terri, I admit that it appeared as if she was looking at her mother. It was eerie. I defer to the experts in neurology, however, when they say that the best evidence they have is that such phenomena are attributable to the autonomic nervous system whose control centre is the brain stem, not the brain cortex (the physical infrastructure that supports bodily consciousness in human beings). Because of the destruction of her cortex, Terri was not aware of herself or her surroundings. She could not feel the warmth of her room or feel the nurses’ touch when she was being washed. She could get no satisfaction from the food put into her stomach, and she could feel no thirst if her body was not ‘hydrated’. She could not be happy that people were continuing to be at her side. On the other side, she could not experience suffering either. In the days between the discontinuation of her ‘tube-feeding’ and her death, she felt no pain.
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RE: "Terri Schiavo's Painful Deprivation of Food and Water Began Four Years Ago"

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
March 19, 2009

Mr. Steven Ertelt
If and when you deside to read the medical professionals articles on Terri Sciavo's real condition, you will notice that a person with the condition of Terri Schiavo could not feel pain, could not think, and could not talk. She had half cortex of her brain. The brain stem was the only functional part of Terri's brain. You should do some reading on the brain and the brain stem and their functionss, if you're going to read some dramaticly worded article. The LifeNews articles are in the pattern of "Yellow Journalism." If you do not know about "Yellow Journalism", you may do some reading on that also. The truth of the events would help the credibility of the LifeNews. Com.
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Walter In FL wrote:
RE: "Terri Schiavo's Painful Deprivation of Food and Water Began Four Years Ago"
by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
March 19, 2009
Mr. Steven Ertelt
If and when you deside to read the medical professionals articles on Terri Sciavo's real condition, you will notice that a person with the condition of Terri Schiavo could not feel pain, could not think, and could not talk. She had half cortex of her brain. The brain stem was the only functional part of Terri's brain. You should do some reading on the brain and the brain stem and their functionss, if you're going to read some dramaticly worded article. The LifeNews articles are in the pattern of "Yellow Journalism." If you do not know about "Yellow Journalism", you may do some reading on that also. The truth of the events would help the credibility of the LifeNews. Com.
Mr. Steven Ertelt replied to my email and finds me annoying and does not wish to discuss the truths of the Terri Schiavo Tragedy.

Isn’t LifeNews.com a Christian news website? Yet, doesn’t wish to discuss the truths.

All I can say at this point is WOW!

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WOW is right....he must know of "y.j"....maybe he isn't blocked from it....

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Walter In FL wrote:
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Mr. Steven Ertelt replied to my email and finds me annoying and does not wish to discuss the truths of the Terri Schiavo Tragedy.
Isn’t LifeNews.com a Christian news website? Yet, doesn’t wish to discuss the truths.
All I can say at this point is WOW!
I wonder if Mr Ertelt would have thought suffocating a helpless old woman would have been painful?

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Walter In FL wrote:
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Mr. Steven Ertelt replied to my email and finds me annoying and does not wish to discuss the truths of the Terri Schiavo Tragedy.
Isn’t LifeNews.com a Christian news website? Yet, doesn’t wish to discuss the truths.
All I can say at this point is WOW!
Not surprising Walter. He has been following the Schindlers all these years :-)

How can he change his POV now?
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How these so-called Christian websites like this LifeNews.com like to use the dramatic terms KILL and MURDER when talking about Michael Schiavo.

The Schindlers were a major cause of Terri Schiavo's health problems and her final collapse by their teasing Terri about her weight. The Schindlers need to think about how they treated Terri and teased Terri while she was growing up.

Their teasing must have had a very profound negative effect on Terri’s psychological feeling about herself. Terri weight problem most likely the results of an emotional problems and an eating problem. The teasing from her family just added greatly to her emotional problems.

This cannot be blamed on Michael Schiavo. The Schindlers needed a villain so they cast Michael Schiavo as their villain when each of the Schindlers should look in a mirror and meet the real villains. They were the villains long before Michael Schiavo came along.

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Peppermint Patti wrote:
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Not surprising Walter. He has been following the Schindlers all these years :-)
How can he change his POV now?
PP

At least LifeNews.com could be un-bias in their articles and present the truths like the real Christian websites. You would think?

I have never noticed before the Terri Schiavo tragedy the hypocrisy of so many so-called Christians and politicians. It drives me crazy.

To blatantly state, that someone KILL or MURDER someone when that someone has not laid one hand on someone and there is no proof.. That is a BLATANT LIE.
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I am the sure the hottest seat in hell is reserved for Mikey.
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liberalskilledTerri wrote:
I am the sure the hottest seat in hell is reserved for Mikey.
What did Mikey Mouse do? Poor Minny Mouse!
Donald Duck is Mikey Mouse best friend and he doesn't feel evil of MM.

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Maybe the people who are demanding Obama's birth certificate, even after Eva Braun-alike, Ann Coulter, has termed them beyond nutcase, could focus their deranged, talibangelical efforts on demanding Terri Schiavo's long form, certified death certificate.

Terri Schiavo lives! Signed, The Deathers. Praiz!

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Yeah how could I forget Jeb nearly starting a freaking constutional crisis between the Court system of Florida and the Florida Executive branch.

Anyone else remember how Jeb was caught planning to send Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to take her by force from the Hospital?

The local police said unless they had court order no way they were getting in.

Because of it the Judge had to sign off a statement of:
The Department of Children and Families is hereby restrained from taking possession of Theresa Maria Schiavo or removing her from the Hospice Woodside facility, administering nutrition or hydration artificially, or otherwise interfering with this court's final judgment, or causing the same to occur, and all those persons acting in concert with DCF are hereby also restrained.

"That each and every singular sheriff of the state of Florida are hereby directed to take such actions or action as is necessary to enforce the provisions hereof."
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Yeah he told every Sheriff department in Florida to do whatever possible to stop the State police if they tried.
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A Watcher wrote:
Yeah how could I forget Jeb nearly starting a freaking constutional crisis between the Court system of Florida and the Florida Executive branch.
Anyone else remember how Jeb was caught planning to send Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to take her by force from the Hospital?
The local police said unless they had court order no way they were getting in.
Because of it the Judge had to sign off a statement of:
The Department of Children and Families is hereby restrained from taking possession of Theresa Maria Schiavo or removing her from the Hospice Woodside facility, administering nutrition or hydration artificially, or otherwise interfering with this court's final judgment, or causing the same to occur, and all those persons acting in concert with DCF are hereby also restrained.
"That each and every singular sheriff of the state of Florida are hereby directed to take such actions or action as is necessary to enforce the provisions hereof."
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Yeah he told every Sheriff department in Florida to do whatever possible to stop the State police if they tried.
Yes, A Watcher, there was a lot of political actions of tyranny during that period.

John Ellis Bush and the GOP had/has total disreguard for the Constitutional rights of the individual if it is not in their favor.
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I remember when this was happening, I thought it was totally disgusting that the Governor got involved in something he had absolutely no business sticking his nose in, and when our Congress got involved it made me even sicker...They couldn't just let her die in peace, they had to politicize the damn thing to death, what a circus...
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liberalskilledTerri wrote:
I am the sure the hottest seat in hell is reserved for Mikey.
No, that would be reserved for Mr Schindler when he suffocated his mother to death. She had at least a chance of recovery. "liberalskilledTerri ". Very cute. Maybe we'll get a "conservativeskilledSchin dler'smother":-)
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Yeppers wrote:
I remember when this was happening, I thought it was totally disgusting that the Governor got involved in something he had absolutely no business sticking his nose in, and when our Congress got involved it made me even sicker...They couldn't just let her die in peace, they had to politicize the damn thing to death, what a circus...
LOL, the governor didn't care if Mrs Schiavo lived or died. None of them cared about THAT. This was only to make the RR feel "useful" and to get their VOTES. They fell for it hook line and sinker. Talk about gullible!

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LOL, the governor didn't care if Mrs Schiavo lived or died. None of them cared about THAT. This was only to make the RR feel "useful" and to get their VOTES. They fell for it hook line and sinker. Talk about gullible!
And they still do, and sadly they are one of the cancers killing the Republican party.

They should all leave and form the "Religious Dictatorship" party and be done with it... Oh wait that's the "Constitution party".
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Svaha wrote:
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LOL, the governor didn't care if Mrs Schiavo lived or died. None of them cared about THAT. This was only to make the RR feel "useful" and to get their VOTES. They fell for it hook line and sinker. Talk about gullible!
"the governor didn't care if Mrs Schiavo lived or died"

Projecting, are you?
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Terri Schiavo didn't even get the same consideration, repeated stays of execution and multiple appeals, given to convicted killers.

One example:

Stanley "Tookie" Williams was convicted of four murders in two different situations in 1979. During his imprisonment, he was involved in numberous attacks on other inmates and on prison personnel. Williams was granted the right to various appeals and it was not until 2005 that he was finally executed.

How many other convicted murderers remain on death row for years due to repeated opportunities to avoid execution?

Terri Schiavo would have received more consideration and support if she had been a convicted murderer.

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