Roll out the BVA trough

There are 1650 comments on the PittsburghLIVE.com story from Mar 17, 2011, titled Roll out the BVA trough. In it, PittsburghLIVE.com reports that:

The regular Belle Vernon Area School Board meeting Feb. 28 was well attended. We learned that the boys' volleyball team was eliminated due to lack of interest.

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Whats going on

Pittsburgh, PA

#582 Jun 24, 2012
Where is the meeting. Did they change the site they do that sometimes?
No surprise

Monongahela, PA

#583 Jun 24, 2012
Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
I hear that BVA is bringing back all the furloughed teachers. I think the new Superintendent is a real BIG blowhard who will razzle dazzle you with bullshit.
Remember he was brought about via the IU search team anD we all know who's affiliated with the Iu. We also know that Bialon will be seeking re-election next time and he will need each and every vote in order to win and that includes any vote he could get from the teachers. Yeah the new superintendent was also cutting clerical positions as well as furloughing teachers. Well he eliminated a clerical position at the high school which should have been eliminated years ago and put that
former $35000 woman into a $43000 position at the administration
building. The only people he will razzle dazzle are those who are uninformed. It will be interesting to see if the board puts ALL the correspondence they've received on the agenda. I was told the meeting is at the high school Monday evening.
Where are they

Monongahela, PA

#584 Jun 25, 2012
Recently attended a party for a graduate of BVA. While having conversation with other guests I learned of this forum and particularly this BVA site. I had been told that someone with the user name "You'll do nothing" and the unprofessional remarks made. I looked and could not find them. Thinking I had overlooked those comments I scrolled through them again. Around May 30 I found someone with the user name "Stray sheep" answering those arrogant remarks. However those original comments by "You'll do nothing" were gone - poof! The general consensus was those remarks were made by a board member. Could the board/district have been cited for those comments? I'm sure we'll never know but the residents of this district should be aware of those tyrannical remarks. It sure as hell sounded like something out of the mouth of a board member, check it out.
Smoke and Mirrors

Monessen, PA

#585 Jun 25, 2012
Why did the BVA Superintendent start at a salary of $130,000 with a raise for the next three years. His starting salary is at the last Superindent's ending salary and he was here for mny years. My point is how do you ask the teachers to take pay freezes when the leader isn't? Someone please ask the new super or any useless board member that.
Straight Talk

Uniontown, PA

#586 Jun 26, 2012
No intention to start this thread off with sour grapes, but here is some information which was not covered by Chris Buckley (reporter for the Valley Independent) regarding the BVA school board meeting held on June 25,2012.
First of all, a heartfelt farewell was made to retiring superintendent Steve Russell. The members of the Belle Vernon School board expressed their positive thoughts associating with Mr. Russell. However, it may have been a bitter disappointment to some BVA taxpayers not being able to express their thanks publicly to Mr. Russell. This is due to the absurd policy which forbids citizens to speak at the end of BVA school board meeting. It could make one feel that the BVA taxpayer is either being isolated from the process or being treated as second class citizens. A survey shows that 11 or 13 nearby school districts permit their citizens to speak at the end of board meetings. Why is it so different in theBelle Vernon School district? Never ending attempts have to made to change this policy or to get new people on the BVA school board in the future.
More to follow on what was not being reported by the Valley Independent.
Straight Talk

Uniontown, PA

#587 Jun 26, 2012
Other points of interest not being reported by the Valley Independent at the June 25, 2012 BVA school board meeting was the 10 minute film presentation concerning the topic of how to deal with "bullying". A big thumbs up to the both BVA high school administrators and students for their fine efforts in putting together a documentary to help combat "bullying". It was so well done and edited that one would think this could be syndicated on a nationwide basis.
Not once did the Valley Independent ever report about Barb Trenk's placard which she brings to the BVA school board meetings practically on a regular basis. Why? One often sees placards on the news whether it is just a few or by the dozens. How come the Valley Independent never acknowledges it in their reports? Could it be that the BVA school board censures what should be reported in the Valley Independent? The placard which Barb Trenk displayed at the June 25, 2012 BVA school board meeting stated something like BVASD is no better than Frazier by spending more dollars. It also may have said stated about moving to avoid the higher taxes in BVASD. Someone who attended the BVA school board meeting coulod put in the exact terms.
You joking

West Salem, OH

#588 Jun 26, 2012
Where are they wrote:
Recently attended a party for a graduate of BVA. While having conversation with other guests I learned of this forum and particularly this BVA site. I had been told that someone with the user name "You'll do nothing" and the unprofessional remarks made. I looked and could not find them. Thinking I had overlooked those comments I scrolled through them again. Around May 30 I found someone with the user name "Stray sheep" answering those arrogant remarks. However those original comments by "You'll do nothing" were gone - poof! The general consensus was those remarks were made by a board member. Could the board/district have been cited for those comments? I'm sure we'll never know but the residents of this district should be aware of those tyrannical remarks. It sure as hell sounded like something out of the mouth of a board member, check it out.
You prooved that this site is for fools. If you believe that those statements which I viewed were from a board member than I got a bridge between Webster and Donora I'd like to sell you for a reasonable price. Unfortunately no accountability on this site for the false statements and lies. I'll never view this BS again.
Straight Talk

Uniontown, PA

#589 Jun 26, 2012
It has become a delusional experience when attending BVA school board meetings. Perhaps, the BVA school board prefers it this way to keep many taxpayers away.
Regarding the subject of the general fund budget, the BVA school board approved a $31,963,941 package with a small increase in Westmoreland County and no increase in Fayette City.
Granted, no one ever wants to see anyone get furloughed these days but questions arise about those being called back. If 12 teachers took early retirement, then why were 14 and perhaps more being called back? Hasn't there been a decline in enrollemnt? Didn't Superintendent Wilkinson contradict himself by saying the class performance is no different from having 16 to 20 students in a class versus 23 to 25 students?
Did a secretary retire in order to call back one who was furloughed.
It is mindboggling to see that the 2012-13 BVA school budget could absorb all these expenses along with the costly teachers' contract.
Was it mentioned that some school buildings need roof repairs? Not knowing what is in the BVA school surplus fund has one guessing to expect another big school tax increase next year.
Straight Talk

Uniontown, PA

#590 Jun 26, 2012
CORRECTION:
The BVA school tax for Westmoreland County shows a decrease in the 2012-13 general fund budget. It is not an increase. Apologies for the error.
Where are they

Monongahela, PA

#591 Jun 26, 2012
You joking wrote:
<quoted text>You prooved that this site is for fools. If you believe that those statements which I viewed were from a board member than I got a bridge between Webster and Donora I'd like to sell you for a reasonable price. Unfortunately no accountability on this site for the false statements and lies. I'll never view this BS again.
Not in the market for a bridge; only for facts. The fact of the matter is that someone with the user name "you'll do nothing" wrote the following: "Talk about us all you want but we will continue to operate the SD as we see fit all of you whining bozos could never do our job so pay your taxes like good little sheep and STFU. Stay away from our meeting because we are tired of your stupid questions and ignorant comments." Another comment from the same user name read "I am treating with Nexium for acid reflux caused by boobs like you who wish to interfer with my brilliance. I am a committed leader who shall answer to no one. I stand alone in my massive intellect. I shall be fine as I continue to diminish the onslaught of absurd questioning from the peons who cannot and will not savor my massive intelligence. Begone peasants."

Now those comments were on this site May 30 and now have disappeared. That is a fact and it sure as hell sounds like it could have come from a board member. And there is a board member with such a medical problem. So where's the false statements or lies? It was all on here. You can call it BS but those comments didn't fall from the sky.
FYI

Monongahela, PA

#592 Jun 26, 2012
Straight Talk wrote:
It has become a delusional experience when attending BVA school board meetings. Perhaps, the BVA school board prefers it this way to keep many taxpayers away.
Regarding the subject of the general fund budget, the BVA school board approved a $31,963,941 package with a small increase in Westmoreland County and no increase in Fayette City.
Granted, no one ever wants to see anyone get furloughed these days but questions arise about those being called back. If 12 teachers took early retirement, then why were 14 and perhaps more being called back? Hasn't there been a decline in enrollemnt? Didn't Superintendent Wilkinson contradict himself by saying the class performance is no different from having 16 to 20 students in a class versus 23 to 25 students?
Did a secretary retire in order to call back one who was furloughed.
It is mindboggling to see that the 2012-13 BVA school budget could absorb all these expenses along with the costly teachers' contract.
Was it mentioned that some school buildings need roof repairs? Not knowing what is in the BVA school surplus fund has one guessing to expect another big school tax increase next year.
There was 1 elementary secretary who retired leaving 1 in that building. As a result the other elementary was reduced to having only 1 thus sending their second secretary to RMS where the one secretary there was furloughed. With declining enrollment the district only needs 1 at each elementary and furthermore there are the aides, nurses, and assistants to the nurses in those buildings. However they called back the furloughed secretary from RMS and are going to use her among the buildings as needed. They did eliminate 1 clerical position at the HS but she bumped down to the adm bldg but that only made alot of movement/checkerboarding but no cost saving. You're right about the tax increase next year because there are the teachers' raises, the clerical will get $1.30 an hour raise, and I'm sure the administrators will receive their raises.
Straight Talk

Uniontown, PA

#593 Jun 26, 2012
Thanks for explaining the furloughed secretary being called back in the BVASD. Looking ahead which some BVA school board members failed to realize the ramifications of approving such a costly teachers' contract, the pension benefits will be skyrocketing perhaps exponentially in the next several years. With the teacher raises and bumps in the salary brackets, it will only increase the pension benefits even more. All this in conjunction with the 25% hike in pension benefits for state employees will certainly become a nightmare for taxpayers. The Pennsylvania State Police has been reduced to meet the the pension obligations. Perhaps the placard which is displayed by Barb Trenk at the BVA school board meetings should be considered a wake up call for the taxpayers!
stumped

Donora, PA

#594 Jun 28, 2012
Don't think for a minute the furloughed teachers will be gone, they'll do just fine after all they were hired by the board and are family members or personal freinds of a board member. They take care of their own. They'll all be back, the money will mysteriously found.
RT Pipe

Monongahela, PA

#595 Jun 28, 2012
stumped wrote:
Don't think for a minute the furloughed teachers will be gone, they'll do just fine after all they were hired by the board and are family members or personal freinds of a board member. They take care of their own. They'll all be back, the money will mysteriously found.
One should never trust anything that comes from the mouths of the 'filth' who sit on these BOARDS be they School directors, councilpersons, commissioners, etc. They ALL lie and the objective is to LIE!
The games have begun

Monongahela, PA

#596 Jun 28, 2012
stumped wrote:
Don't think for a minute the furloughed teachers will be gone, they'll do just fine after all they were hired by the board and are family members or personal freinds of a board member. They take care of their own. They'll all be back, the money will mysteriously found.
Where have you been? Not at the meeting on Monday for all the furloughed teachers were called back with two not being a full day. The board especially those seeking re election are not going to chance losing the votes of those teachers and their families. Look out because next year we will have a tax increase because of teachers contract and administrative raises. At the meeting on Monday I understand they originally cut the security to $7 an hour and then increased it to about $10. When in reality they were ORIGINALLY earning around $13 an hour. Just another game they play and using the lowest paid to play the game with. Just like the clerical. They furloughed one from the middle school and now called her back to "float" among the buildings when extra help is needed. Is that going to be at her original salary with benefits and for 12 months a year? Never heard of such a position
before and all at taxpayers expense ONCE AGAIN.
Citizen Cane

Youngstown, OH

#597 Jun 28, 2012
I am not sure where you get your info,( the games have begun) but you are way off on security guard salaries. And when you have teachers retire at the HIGHEST pay scale you are able to recall furloughed teachers at the LOWER pay scales !! DUH !! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT !!
furloughed teachers

Monongahela, PA

#598 Jun 28, 2012
they were able to call most if the furloughed teachers back because of retirements. if a teacher retires you still have to replace that teacher. the retired teacher has a schedule and retires you have to have someone to replace them. there were still many positions cut but some were called back because of the retirements. that is why there is savings because they eliminated schedules and had to rehire for a retiring teacher
The games have begun

Monongahela, PA

#599 Jun 29, 2012
Citizen Cane wrote:
I am not sure where you get your info,( the games have begun) but you are way off on security guard salaries. And when you have teachers retire at the HIGHEST pay scale you are able to recall furloughed teachers at the LOWER pay scales !! DUH !! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT !!
The facts are: there are FIVE security personnel with one earning $19717.28 and the other four making $16530.80. Now their hourly HAS been reduced as per Monday's meeting. The four were making $11.25 an hour and have been cut to $10 an hour. I cannot quote what the one higher paid was earning but he too was cut in his hourly wage. The issue in that comment was "they cut the lowest paid employees." DUH! READ THE FACTS, nothing to do with furloughed teachers.
Interested

Monongahela, PA

#600 Jun 29, 2012
Great, the board recalled 12 furloughed teachers because 12 teachers retired. Now, not understanding all the particulars, these 12 teachers who were recalled are they certified to teach in the 12 retired positions? At one time I know there were certifications K-5 or elementary and secondary. Then I was told you could have a certification K-12. Trust these persons to teach what they are capable to teach but just don't trust this board to place the teachers in the proper teaching positions. Can anyone inform as to who taught what?
Citizen Cane

Youngstown, OH

#601 Jun 29, 2012
The games have begun wrote:
<quoted text>
The facts are: there are FIVE security personnel with one earning $19717.28 and the other four making $16530.80. Now their hourly HAS been reduced as per Monday's meeting. The four were making $11.25 an hour and have been cut to $10 an hour. I cannot quote what the one higher paid was earning but he too was cut in his hourly wage. The issue in that comment was "they cut the lowest paid employees." DUH! READ THE FACTS, nothing to do with furloughed teachers.
The security guards made $ 11.85/hr get your facts and figures correct. Public knowledge!

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