Supporters arrive for Tankleff hearing

[Mary Lou Maloney]

Marty the murderer wrote:

Marty supporter, please read the article. A/G believe Marty is guilty.
This says it all. Marty killed his parents.Prosecutors from the state attorney general's office dropped charges against Martin Tankleff Monday morning, saying in a motion filed with the court that although there is evidence of Tankleff's guilt, it is not enough to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
In the same motion, prosecutors said they would not proceed against suspects identified by Tankleff's defense team, saying that "on balance, the defense theory does not appear to be supported by clear evidence."
Although the decision makes Tankleff free from criminal investigation for the first time since his parents were killed in September 1988, it falls short of the clear exoneration he and his legal team had hoped

The fact that they are saying there is "some evidence" does not suggest automatically he killed his parents. It may or may not. The "some evidence" is that false confession. It's not conclusive. If it were, then they couldn't have overturned his conviction to begin with.

Conclusions like these are why I think law should be taught in schools. Just because there is "some evidence" that someone committed a crime does not mean they actually did it. Anything is possible. Yet all lay people have to read is "although there is some evidence" and they jump to the conclusion that he did it. They don't know how to properly analyze evidence.

They found physical evidence (not noticed in the initial investigation) that a knife print does not match any of the knives in the house. That means the killer or killers left with the murder weapon. There wasn't enough time for Marty to stash the knife. And gloves were used. If Marty were to have burned the gloves, they would have smelled something burning when they came. There was also no blood specs in the drainage. That takes care of Marty washing off after the killings.

Juries do make mistakes. And this time they made a mistake by relying solely on that confession and ignoring physical evidence.

[Mary Lou Maloney]

Marty the murderer wrote:

<quoted text> If you read the article, you will realize he was not exonerated therefore GUILTY!!!! Free but guilty nevertheless.

If you actually read the July 22, 2008 decision, you will see that Marty IS exonerated. The papers didn't report this, but there was a knife imprint overlooked in the 1988 investigation that did not match any knife found in the house, which means THE REAL KILLER (NOT MARTY) LEFT THE HOUSE WITH THE MURDER WEAPON. If McCready had pursued Jerry Steuerman and done more investigating, the real killers (and they are not Marty) would not have had twenty years to successfully destroy all the physical evidence that would implicate them. That's why there is "no clear evidence." It was destroyed off the Belle Terre property. Just because there is no evidence pointing to someone else doesn't mean it's Marty. There is nothing pointing to Marty either other than a coerced confession. You people are so hard-headed. People do falsely confess. The Central Park guys did and were exonerated by DNA.

Why are you assholes still convinced of Marty's guilt after SCORES OF FORMER AND CURRENT PROSECUTORS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE IS INNOCENT? These people know more than ANY of you lay people who take out phrases and misconstrue them.

[TO MARTYS OPPONENTS]

In the motion, Benjamin Rosenberg, the chief trial counsel to Attorney General Andrew Cuomo wrote that there was "some evidence that others may have committed the killings."
The investigation unearthed new forensic evidence: the bloody imprint of what appeared to be a knife was found on Arlene Tankleff's bed sheet. The imprint did not match the knife that had been identified as the murder weapon in the case against Tankleff, nor any other knife found in the home of the Tankleffs.

[Marty Tankleff]

TO MARTYS OPPONENTS wrote:

In the motion, Benjamin Rosenberg, the chief trial counsel to Attorney General Andrew Cuomo wrote that there was "some evidence that others may have committed the killings."
The investigation unearthed new forensic evidence: the bloody imprint of what appeared to be a knife was found on Arlene Tankleff's bed sheet. The imprint did not match the knife that had been identified as the murder weapon in the case against Tankleff, nor any other knife found in the home of the Tankleffs.

Hello "TO MARTYS OPPONENTS". You have the same IP address as the very lovely Mary Lou Maloney! You know it the motion Benjamin Rosenberg also said there was evidence that I committed the murder! Go figure! Just because I admitted to killing my parents in graphic detail doesn't mean anything. Just because I told my friends that I could have my parents killed doesn't mean anything either. I got away with it! To quote a Carlos Santana song,"everything is coming my way" KAAAAAAAAAA-ching!!!!!!!!!

[Mary Lou Maloney]

Marty Tankleff wrote:

<quoted text>Hello "TO MARTYS OPPONENTS". You have the same IP address as the very lovely Mary Lou Maloney! You know it the motion Benjamin Rosenberg also said there was evidence that I committed the murder! Go figure! Just because I admitted to killing my parents in graphic detail doesn't mean anything. Just because I told my friends that I could have my parents killed doesn't mean anything either. I got away with it! To quote a Carlos Santana song,"everything is coming my way" KAAAAAAAAAA-ching!!!!!!!!!

Yes, "TO Marty's Opponents" was me. I wanted to get attention of any opponents of Marty's, so I addressed them.

I know some rich dude who typed in a chat room that if someone could get a hit on his father he could inherit millions of dollars.

It's unfortunate for Marty that his parents ended up being killed after he allegedly made a similar statement to those three girls, so those statements were used against him. In the motion, Benjamin Rosenberg, the chief trial counsel to Attorney General Andrew Cuomo wrote that there was "some evidence that others may have committed the killings."

The investigation unearthed new forensic evidence: the bloody imprint of what appeared to be a knife was found on Arlene Tankleff's bed sheet. The imprint did not match the knife that had been identified as the murder weapon in the case against Tankleff, nor any other knife found in the home of the Tankleffs, not Benjamin Rosenberg. So, what do you suppose happened? If Marty is indeed the killer (which I am certain he is not), what did he do to the knife? Hmm? Where did it go? Did he have it for breakfast?

And to get back to your suggestion that he burned the rubber gloves, someone would have smelled or otherwise detected the burning rubber gloves even if he put the flames out. Burning rubber has a distinct smell. Ever drive on a flat tire and have to stop?

When they say there is "some evidence" that he did it, that doesn't mean outright that he definitely did it; it only suggests a POSSIBILITY, NOT A DEFINITE FACT. And for me, the physical evidence that they just pointed out to in the July 22, 2008 decision negates Marty as the killer.

Rosenberg also suggests some evidence that others committed "may have" these crimes. I would not rule out Jerry Steuerman. Hell, you might even wonder about the other poker players. I don't think they did it, but the fact that they were there around the time could indicate "some evidence" that they were responsible.

He confessed to killing his parents under pressure. The Central Park jogger defendants confessed, too, and they were exonerated later by physical evidence. That "graphic detail" did not match the scene of the crime. Marty was coached by McCreepy the Irish Drunk.

No matter what he may have confessed to or said to his friends before the murders that would incriminate him, if the physical evidence doesn't point to him HE DIDN'T DO IT.

Trust me, I thought he was guilty, too when the story first broke in 1988. All I had to hear was about the confession and yes, the statements by those three girls. BUT NOW I KNOW BETTER, NOT FROM WHAT TANKLEFF'S DEFENSE TEAM PUT TOGETHER, BUT BY MY OWN EXAMINATION OF THE CASE AND THE EVIDENCE PUT TOGETHER BY BOTH SIDES. I read pages upon pages of transcripts and motions on this case. I started to doubt Tankleff's guilt back in 1988 when I read the article about Jerry Steuerman's escape - empty the joint account, get an alias, etc. Jerry even admitted he fled because he was afraid the cops would blame him for the killings because Marty blamed him. Now, why would Jerry feel the need to escape if he had nothing to hide? Too bad McCready gave him and his cronies two decades to get rid of the physical evidence.

[Mary Lou Maloney]

BTW that rich dude who made those comments in the chat room (which were similar to the ones attributed to Marty) did not kill his dad. He was joking when he said it. Marty may have been joking, too. That was a disgusting thing to joke around about, but it isn't conclusive that he killed his parents. It would only warrant investigation that may or may not uncover physical and/or circumstantial evidence to go beyond a reasonable doubt. A confession or even declarations against penal interest though useful in the prosecution's case against a defendant should not be a point for investigators to stop in their tracks.

Regardless of Marty's innocence or guilt(which I'm certain Marty is innocent), McCreepy did a crappy job building an unassailable case. McCready should have investigated all claims and all people mentioned, including Jerry Steuerman. Any way you look at it, his incompetence, if not Marty's outright innocence, wrecked the prosecution's case against ANY DEFENDANTS, MARTY, JERRY OR ANYBODY.

[Got2bme]

Where did the other board go? You know the one with all the truth on it!