Deputies on suspension for holiday brawl in Montebello

Dec 15, 2010 Full story: Whittier Daily News 24

A holiday party for Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies at a banquest hall located on the grounds of the Montebello Country Club has led to seven deputies being relieved of their duties with pay, a sheriff's spokesman said Wednesday.

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J Shack

Mexico

#1 Dec 16, 2010
Most likely not a Firing offense, more like max day´s off .. if punishment is way out of proportiion to the offense, the board or court could reinstate .. like many out here, we need more facts .. Chinatown would have be a better locale than Mtb .. btw, had a lot of fun back in the day at J Shack, Yi Mi Lous, Venice Room, Luminarias, Quite Cannon .. of course, some may still be on probation, which in that case will result in firing

The Eastside, which includes Mtb, has always been a lure for off duty cops who are out drinking .. can any of you identify the factors .. one is the Chicas who like cops .. btw, drinking with other cops is usually a waste of time
Law Abiding Citizen

Glendale, CA

#2 Dec 16, 2010
J Shack wrote:
can any of you identify the factors .. one is the Chicas who like cops...
I never feel sorry for airheads who are stupid enough to date or marry cops. When you end up abused, neglected or cheated on, you need only look in a mirror to see who's to blame.

The best cops are now worm food.
Montebello Senior

Torrance, CA

#3 Dec 16, 2010
Why are they even being paid. Our tax dollars pay for their stupidness. They are suppose to be setting a good example for young adults. This is part of the reason California is out of money. The money should not be paid to these fools. All the big shots should take a cut in pay and not lay off our teachers and the poor. That is where all the crime is in the politicians and the people that have it in with them that take kick backs. This pisses me off!@!!!!!!!
trash talk

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Dec 16, 2010
Plenty of racism and sexism in Montebello Police dept.
and (BTW) in the MFD
Notice how our intrepid officers bought the "these are not the Droids you are looking for" act?
J Shack

Mexico

#5 Dec 16, 2010
trash talk wrote:
Plenty of racism and sexism in Montebello Police dept.
and (BTW) in the MFD
Notice how our intrepid officers bought the "these are not the Droids you are looking for" act?
Disagree .. Mtb PD has always had a very wide range of minorities on the roster, particulalry for a dept of about 90 cops .. Mtb has been a true diverse City, going back over fity years, before the term even became popular .. also, look at the makeup of the Council and Dept Heads over the decades .. the lawsuit under Chief Weast was a trend that became the thing to do in most Depts in So Cal and proves very little .. btw, your post is ¨off topic¨.. never worked for Mtb, but know the City very well

Still waiting for answeres as to why cops over the decades like to drink on the Eastside .. Will give you a few hints, perhaps a feeling of Superioty and feeling comfortable in this zone
J Shack

Mexico

#6 Dec 16, 2010
Law Abiding Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
I never feel sorry for airheads who are stupid enough to date or marry cops. When you end up abused, neglected or cheated on, you need only look in a mirror to see who's to blame.
The best cops are now worm food.
So why are male cops highly sought after for dating and marriage partners by a wide variety of women and in high numbers .. obviously, many are not Airheads as reflected in the high numbers, many are well educated females and refined, but granted nice waitresses and single moms on a tight budget also like cops .. you should see the first Ten Year high school reunions, these cops get a lot of ego graatification and attention from girls from the old neighborhood
Btw, anyone out there who knows what happen up there at the Quiet Cannon, was it really a brawl, or two cops who took a very swings at one another and other holding their fellow cops back .. Young cops are immature, unduly affected by peer pressure and cop culture
Theolona ranger

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Dec 16, 2010
J Shack is correct in that MPD is a diverse department.
However there are cliques with the department.
Weast's group is butone of the latest examples of MPD "cliques".
Mahan's Marauders, The "Wrecking crew" of detectives and narcs in the 70's, reputed "Aryan Brotherhood" type groups, etc
There has been a sexist group and an anti- Hispanic group within the department for decades.
Let's not forget the overtime abuse conspiracy.
Trash Talks comment about the responders not getting multiple witness statements after being told "no problem here" speaks volumes.
Insider Perspective

Mexico

#8 Dec 16, 2010
Theolona ranger wrote:
J Shack is correct in that MPD is a diverse department.
However there are cliques with the department.
Weast's group is butone of the latest examples of MPD "cliques".
Mahan's Marauders, The "Wrecking crew" of detectives and narcs in the 70's, reputed "Aryan Brotherhood" type groups, etc
There has been a sexist group and an anti- Hispanic group within the department for decades.
Let's not forget the overtime abuse conspiracy.
Trash Talks comment about the responders not getting multiple witness statements after being told "no problem here" speaks volumes.
Chief Lesley S was the best, a very smart career dapper cop and administrator, sorry to hear of his recent passing .. see were Snowden is Chief at BH .. Mtb had many great cops and always held it down .. unaware of most of these cliques, most depts have them, but most of them are only legends in their own minds and do not amount to much .. many minority cops promoted there

As far as not taking wit statements, it was apparently over when they arrived, all had left the scene .. give MPD
the benefit of the doubt on this one, particularly due to their limited resources and need to be back on patrol .. anyway, all of the Deputies will promptly confess, only way to keep their jobs
Law Abiding Citizen

Glendale, CA

#9 Dec 17, 2010
J Shack wrote:
<quoted text>
So why are male cops highly sought after for dating and marriage partners by a wide variety of women and in high numbers .. obviously, many are not Airheads as reflected in the high numbers, many are well educated females and refined...
They are virtually all airheads, women who get invovled with cops. An educated doesn't mean you are bright. Many average, even below average, people obtain degrees and neat little initials after their name. All it means in many cases is that you can set a goal and work hard to achieve it. Very often, tremendous sacrifices must be made.

Now I'm not saying that isn't admirable. But it doesn't make them "smart". There are many BEAUTIFUL women running aroud with gang members, too. They are no different than the airheads who date or marry cops.

As for why it started...

There were other sections in the jail making fun of the cops who are in charge of the "3000" section, for always taking too long to have their inmates ready for tranportation or to perform their headcounts.

The cops in that section refer to themselves as the "3000 Boys", no different than a gang. In fact, many have that tattooed on their bodies.(no joke)

Anyone who doesn't know that cops are nothing but legal gangbangers is a fool. As I've said before, the best cops are now worm food.
Law Abiding Citizen

Glendale, CA

#10 Dec 17, 2010
An education...
Law Abiding Citizen

Glendale, CA

#11 Dec 17, 2010
transportation
Trash talk

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Dec 17, 2010
several Montebello PD will not take statements from women
They call their complaints "mere infractions"
or
"administrative"
If the lady wishes to peruse she has to go down to the station
Theolona ranger

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Dec 17, 2010
MPD treats Vandalism such as "keying" cars as mere "incidents" not as misdemeanors. Only thing happens is that you get a "report" for your insurance company.
No one takes the time to review available surveillance footage to try and apprehend the criminals.
Slashed tires, paint balls, and stolen radios get similar treatment depending on what kind of car and who the victim is.
Has to be moe than a slingshot or bb gun to get the pd's attentiopn
J Shack

Mexico

#14 Dec 17, 2010
Theolona ranger wrote:
MPD treats Vandalism such as "keying" cars as mere "incidents" not as misdemeanors. Only thing happens is that you get a "report" for your insurance company.
No one takes the time to review available surveillance footage to try and apprehend the criminals.
Slashed tires, paint balls, and stolen radios get similar treatment depending on what kind of car and who the victim is.
Has to be moe than a slingshot or bb gun to get the pd's attentiopn
Under which Chief, or time period, did this poor service start .. Any word as to when a new Chief will be appointed .. Will it be an insider this time, or money wasted again on Consultants .. all of these Chief positions are highly sought after, in the vast pecking order of upper management cops from smaller Depts within the State and retiring big city cops with the rank of Lt and above .. back in the day consultants were not used .. the respective Cities merely advertised the position and the City Manager and Council ultimately made the selection

Another question TR, was there a City Measure restricting consolidation of the PD, as there was in the case of MFD
J Shack

Mexico

#15 Dec 17, 2010
Law Abiding Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
They are virtually all airheads, women who get invovled with cops. An educated doesn't mean you are bright. Many average, even below average, people obtain degrees and neat little initials after their name. All it means in many cases is that you can set a goal and work hard to achieve it. Very often, tremendous sacrifices must be made.
Now I'm not saying that isn't admirable. But it doesn't make them "smart". There are many BEAUTIFUL women running aroud with gang members, too. They are no different than the airheads who date or marry cops.
As for why it started...
There were other sections in the jail making fun of the cops who are in charge of the "3000" section, for always taking too long to have their inmates ready for tranportation or to perform their headcounts.
The cops in that section refer to themselves as the "3000 Boys", no different than a gang. In fact, many have that tattooed on their bodies.(no joke)
Anyone who doesn't know that cops are nothing but legal gangbangers is a fool. As I've said before, the best cops are now worm food.
Thank´s for the info on what started this incident .. so damn incredible and juvenile, this 3000 Boy crap and getting riled up over teasing .. LASD is trying very hard to hire and train professional deputies, but a major overhaul in the selection and training process of Police Officers statewide needs to be instituted .. the old model is now in the failure mode .. as to LASD, there may be a detrimental affect to the wholesale assignement of new Deputies to the County Jail .. they should be in the field under the tight control of training officers and interacting with the wide range of the public .. something like the Rand think tank should restructure POST and the entire hiring and training process
Been there

Los Angeles, CA

#16 May 5, 2011
All the deps in cj suck balls they are bullys scared wb bad asses and like to abuse the inmates I bet they dont have the balls one on one
usmc

United States

#17 Feb 26, 2012
All cops are cowards, sort of like surenos
support

Hayden, ID

#18 Oct 13, 2012
Montebello Senior wrote:
Why are they even being paid. Our tax dollars pay for their stupidness. They are suppose to be setting a good example for young adults. This is part of the reason California is out of money. The money should not be paid to these fools. All the big shots should take a cut in pay and not lay off our teachers and the poor. That is where all the crime is in the politicians and the people that have it in with them that take kick backs. This pisses me off!@!!!!!!!
We should hire as many cops as possible. Enough said.
BreedSt

Kent, WA

#19 Dec 29, 2012
These pigs should get fired for being crooked ass cops. Ill get down with any of those bitches at any time. Take off your badge bitch and let's see if you have the balls to back up all the shit you talk.
Law Abiding Citizen

Whittier, CA

#21 Dec 30, 2012
BreedSt wrote:
These pigs should get fired for being crooked ass cops. Ill get down with any of those bitches at any time. Take off your badge bitch and let's see if you have the balls to back up all the shit you talk.
I can't wait to read about the first pig who gets whacked in 2013!

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