bible question please help!!!!!!

bible question please help!!!!!!

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scared to death

Ransom, KY

#1 Jun 5, 2012
i am a 15 yr old guy and here's the deal: i was raised by foster parents because my mom died 9 years ago and my dad is in prison for murder and he is an athiest.(his dad, my grndpa died in prison too, for terrible things) i have been going to church and sunday school and really studying myt bible and i have read something that scares me. can anyone help me with these verses?ezekiel 18:20 and exodus 20:5:i talked to some people at church and they didnt help much. exodus says that god will "visit the iniquity of the fathers on their children for 4 generations" which means i will have to pay for what they did when i die. ezekiel 20:5 says i wont. so my question is, which one is it? you cant say exodus is wrong because nothing is wrong in the bible and it says very plainly that i am gonna pay for what they did.
TreeFiddy

Logan, WV

#2 Jun 6, 2012
That's old Testament. Jesus saves you from all of that.
scared to death

Ransom, KY

#3 Jun 6, 2012
so that means the old testament is not true? or that single verse is not true? but i thought it all had to be true. confusing
Let me help you

Macon, GA

#4 Jun 6, 2012
Jeremiah 31:29
In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
Deuteronomy 24:16
Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.
Job 21:19
[It is said,]'God stores up a man's punishment for his sons.' Let him repay the man himself, so that he will know it!
Lamentations 5:7
Our fathers sinned and are no more, and we bear their punishment.
scared to death

Ransom, KY

#5 Jun 6, 2012
Let me help you wrote:
Jeremiah 31:29
In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
Deuteronomy 24:16
Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.
Job 21:19
[It is said,]'God stores up a man's punishment for his sons.' Let him repay the man himself, so that he will know it!
Lamentations 5:7
Our fathers sinned and are no more, and we bear their punishment.
those don't help me much. those seem like direct contradictions in the bible and my preacher says there are no contradictions....but there they are in black and white.
All Bull

Charleston, WV

#6 Jun 7, 2012
God doesn't hold you a prisoner. If you are worried about the 'Sins Of Your Fathers' being visited upon you... you're wrong! When you accepted Jesus Christ into your heart.... it broke the chains of Satan.
You have Satan, Demons telling you this. You are (scared to death) God isn't the God of Fear. Satan is.
Quit worrying about what you father and his before him did.
Quit being held hostage by the fear of Satan. That's his job..... to do what he is doing to you right now.
Always talk to God and pray through Jesus Christ.
If i was 15 years old and people in my Church wouldn't help me understand these things.... i would find another Church.
Go to another Pastor or good Christian and let them get this junk out of your head by showing you the truth.
Even Hitler could of been saved if he called on the name of the Lord.
Satan has you right where he wants you. Don't give in to his lies and doubts.
Again, find another Pastor to talk to! Good-Luck!
heaven bound

Chapmanville, WV

#7 Jun 7, 2012
Jesus died on the cross so thay our sins would no longer be held against us. we are no longer under the law of the old testament but under the blood of Christ so that we will not pay the price of sins done by anyone but our own sin which is forgiven when you take Jesus as your saviour.
Praying for you

Charleston, WV

#8 Jun 7, 2012
Bless your sweet heart, when you stand before the Lord, you will answer for YOUR sins and no one else's. If you ask Jesus to come into your heart and forgive you for your own personal sins, he will do it. Your sins will be washed away FOREVER, never to be remembered again by the Lord.
When the Bible talks about the sins of the father being visited upon the sons, it's talking about how you have suffered for what your dad did, for example. The fact that you grew up in a foster home and didn't have your earthly dad to guide you and be with you, that was a direct result of his sin that affected YOU. It doesn't mean you'll PAY for his sins, just that his bad choices will and have affected you. I am praying for you, sweetheart.
You are Gods child

Macon, GA

#9 Jul 24, 2012
You are only accountable for your sins. You can only control where your soul goes after this life. If you accept Jesus and profess yourself as a Christian, live for god, and study his word you then will belong to Jesus. The devil will tell you that you are not saved. I just want you to tell that devil to get behind you in the name of Jesus! The devil wants to take you down with him and all other sinners, but you just profess Jesus as your savior and you are his! Im praying for you!! God bless you!
Appalachian American

Dayton, OH

#10 Aug 4, 2012
scared to death wrote:
i am a 15 yr old guy and here's the deal: i was raised by foster parents because my mom died 9 years ago and my dad is in prison for murder and he is an athiest.(his dad, my grndpa died in prison too, for terrible things) i have been going to church and sunday school and really studying myt bible and i have read something that scares me. can anyone help me with these verses?ezekiel 18:20 and exodus 20:5:i talked to some people at church and they didnt help much. exodus says that god will "visit the iniquity of the fathers on their children for 4 generations" which means i will have to pay for what they did when i die. ezekiel 20:5 says i wont. so my question is, which one is it? you cant say exodus is wrong because nothing is wrong in the bible and it says very plainly that i am gonna pay for what they did.
You have misunderstood the passage in Exodus. It doesn't say you will have to pay for what they did >>>when you die<<<. Still yet, I don't think anyone would deny that children often suffer for the sins of their parents. Often times the fear of something happening to their children causes parents to refrain from crime or sin. That being said, if you have been born again you will go to heaven when you die. You must examine yourself and be sure that you are trusting the finished work of Jesus on the cross for your salvation. If you are then you should not be afraid.
Believer

Pikeville, KY

#11 Aug 11, 2017
So, does the Old Testament just not apply anymore? Is it just history?
MAN OF MAYHEM

Georgetown, IN

#12 Aug 11, 2017
Believer wrote:
So, does the Old Testament just not apply anymore? Is it just history?
No it's not that it doesn't apply there's still things in the Old Test. that you need to know. But as far as the laws that govern sins that all changed with the birth of Christ. Now you live by a different set of laws. Jesus has made it possible to asked for forgiveness. And Jesus loves us and forgives us.
Big Bob

Morgantown, WV

#14 Aug 19, 2017
scared to death wrote:
<quoted text>those don't help me much. those seem like direct contradictions in the bible and my preacher says there are no contradictions....but there they are in black and white.
There are THOUSANDS of contradictions in the Bible. I love how earlier someone said "that's old testament, Jesus saves you from all that". So he's saying it's useless. That same idiot probably thinks gays are wrong too. The only part of the Bible that somewhat mentions homosexuality at all is the old testament. Do not listen to any of these morons. You will not be punished by any "being" for your father's behavior. Only YOUR actions can lead to real world punishment (jail, injury etc). Nothing is watching us. Live your life.
Big Bob

Morgantown, WV

#15 Aug 19, 2017
All Bull wrote:
God doesn't hold you a prisoner. If you are worried about the 'Sins Of Your Fathers' being visited upon you... you're wrong! When you accepted Jesus Christ into your heart.... it broke the chains of Satan.
You have Satan, Demons telling you this. You are (scared to death) God isn't the God of Fear. Satan is.
Quit worrying about what you father and his before him did.
Quit being held hostage by the fear of Satan. That's his job..... to do what he is doing to you right now.
Always talk to God and pray through Jesus Christ.
If i was 15 years old and people in my Church wouldn't help me understand these things.... i would find another Church.
Go to another Pastor or good Christian and let them get this junk out of your head by showing you the truth.
Even Hitler could of been saved if he called on the name of the Lord.
Satan has you right where he wants you. Don't give in to his lies and doubts.
Again, find another Pastor to talk to! Good-Luck!
If God isn't the God of fear then why do believers consider themselves "God fearing"? If God punishes sinners by putting them in an eternal hell with fire then you should be scared. Very contradictory.
Big Bob

Morgantown, WV

#16 Aug 19, 2017
MAN OF MAYHEM wrote:
<quoted text>
No it's not that it doesn't apply there's still things in the Old Test. that you need to know. But as far as the laws that govern sins that all changed with the birth of Christ. Now you live by a different set of laws. Jesus has made it possible to asked for forgiveness. And Jesus loves us and forgives us.
So basically you get to pick and choose what applies to your life and what doesn't. So some of the Bible is rendered useless.. Meaning it's not perfect and quite fallible.
Someonewhokmows

Martin, KY

#17 Apr 9, 2018
Big Bob wrote:
<quoted text>

So basically you get to pick and choose what applies to your life and what doesn't. So some of the Bible is rendered useless.. Meaning it's not perfect and quite fallible.
No the Bible is not useless...someone trying to lead you astray! You must study and read it chapter by chapter verse by verse! The Bible is the living word,of you want to really understand the Bible...study with Shepherds Chapel .com...
holy roller

United States

#18 Apr 10, 2018
Big Bob wrote:
<quoted text>

There are THOUSANDS of contradictions in the Bible. I love how earlier someone said "that's old testament, Jesus saves you from all that". So he's saying it's useless. That same idiot probably thinks gays are wrong too. The only part of the Bible that somewhat mentions homosexuality at all is the old testament. Do not listen to any of these morons. You will not be punished by any "being" for your father's behavior. Only YOUR actions can lead to real world punishment (jail, injury etc). Nothing is watching us. Live your life.
first of all we don't go by the law of Moses anymore,but the old testament still stands as well as the new testament,,and the only way gay people will make it to heaven is get saved,be babtized in the name of Jesus Christ for our sins then tarry for the HolyGhost, acts2 vr 38
and we work out our own salvation and trembling before the Lord, you will not be held for anyone else's sins but your own,and big Bob you are a moron for trying to confuse this young man, because it is an abomination to God to be gay,read about Sodom and gomorra, and yes God is real, heaven and so is hell real,
NO FEAR HERE

Martin, KY

#19 Apr 10, 2018
holy roller wrote:
<quoted text>
first of all we don't go by the law of Moses anymore,but the old testament still stands as well as the new testament,,and the only way gay people will make it to heaven is get saved,be babtized in the name of Jesus Christ for our sins then tarry for the HolyGhost, acts2 vr 38
and we work out our own salvation and trembling before the Lord, you will not be held for anyone else's sins but your own,and big Bob you are a moron for trying to confuse this young man, because it is an abomination to God to be gay,read about Sodom and gomorra, and yes God is real, heaven and so is hell real,
AMEN!!!!!!AMEN!!!! AMEN!!!!

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