Legislators vs. Martinez: Court strik...

Legislators vs. Martinez: Court strikes down veto

There are 36 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Jun 22, 2011, titled Legislators vs. Martinez: Court strikes down veto. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

Four Democratic legislators on Wednesday bested Republican Gov. Susana Martinez in a power struggle decided by the New Mexico Supreme Court.

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Ueber Liberal Elite

United States

#24 Jun 23, 2011
Curious From Arizona wrote:
"Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
Now that's funny! Did you make it up yourself or swipe it. I'd like to use it some day if you don't mind.
And Any

Albuquerque, NM

#25 Jun 23, 2011
Curious From Arizona wrote:
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What an absolutely absurd statement, if you can call it that.
The appropriation she slashed was for the Public Housing Program. How could any intelligent person make a connection for public housing to legislators having their "corrupt hands in the states (sic) money"?
Never mind - the comment isn't worth explaining to some dimwitted individuals. Is everyone in Hobbs uneducated, or just blindly loyal and stupid to reality?
"Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
dimwit who thinks ""Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D." is rather unaware of reality.
Ueber Liberal Elite

United States

#26 Jun 23, 2011
Actually, "R" = republicans. Generally, they are conservatives who want to return to the "good ole days". Presumably, when minorities and women knew their place and didn't squawk about equal rights, protection and wages. When the corporation were free to abuse their workers, and the environment. When the Christian God was the rule of the day, and GD any other form.

"D"=Democrats (progressives). Want to continue the progress envisioned by our founding fathers to a society of equality and tolerance. Where the collective strong help along those of us who are not as strong.

I think Mr. Tucson is dead on this his quip.
Curious From Arizona

Tucson, AZ

#27 Jun 23, 2011
Ueber Liberal Elite wrote:
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Now that's funny! Did you make it up yourself or swipe it. I'd like to use it some day if you don't mind.
No, I did not make it up. I swiped it from a blogger on DailyKos.

You may use it whenever you like, and anyway you think would be advantageous to the cause. The more we get the word around that Republicans want to take the country back to the 19th Century, the better for the progressive movement.

Be my guest. I use it on my email signature tagline. My friends love it and have also adopted using it. Even my more progressive Republican friends feel it has merit, gives them pause about where their party is headed.
Susana Fail

Tempe, AZ

#28 Jun 23, 2011
Curious From Arizona wrote:
Isn't it interesting that all the NM newspapers and bloggers reported on the Supreme Court's decision which slapped down Martinez for yet a third time, except NMPolitics.net ?
Is Heath showing a little bias and partisanship toward his favorite Republican?
I would bet my last dollar that if the Supreme Court ruled against Richardson (or any other Democrat) for a third time, his story would have had Third World War size headlines.
Impartial reporting? You be the judge.
"Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
Word was that Heath, who apparently was very supportive of La Bruja's candidacy, was being considered for press secretary after she got elected, but I think they found someone from the Hitler Youth Movement instead.

By the way, what's with the hometown listing? I live in New Mexico.
Glen Taylor

Las Cruces, NM

#29 Jun 23, 2011
It appears the governor wants to write her own rules, something she, as an attorney, should know she can not do. If she wants to chop a program the legislature wants, then she should chop it all. Then, if her veto is upheld she can get the amount she wants in a supplemental appropriation bill. If enough legislators want the program to go forward without changes, they can overturn her veto.

It's really a rather simple process and the court is simply saying the governor can't try and short-cut the procedure. If she believes it's important enough, she can ask that the state's constitution be amended so it's put up to the voters.

Those crying foul are apparently ignorant of the law and the state's procedures.

I don't blame the governor for trying, but now she knows where she stands on this issue according to the state's highest court. It will be interesting to see if she decides to appeal to the federal courts (if they would even consider the case) and spend more of the state's money on her fellow lawyers.
Becki Davis

United States

#30 Jun 23, 2011
Bertha wrote:
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Was this from Joe Monahans blog?
Get a job or shut up, fat woman. Only taxpayers can comment about legislative matters.
I can see your mobile home with binoculars from my tree-shaded patio.
Curious From Arizona

Tucson, AZ

#31 Jun 23, 2011
"Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
Stale

Albuquerque, NM

#32 Jun 23, 2011
Curious From Arizona wrote:
"Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
good gawd! This BS has been around for ages and you are stupid enough to think it's new and novel? Post it a few more times so your AH in-the-dark buddies can think you are on the cutting edge.
Steven

Huntsville, AL

#33 Jun 23, 2011
Susana Fail wrote:
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Word was that Heath, who apparently was very supportive of La Bruja's candidacy, was being considered for press secretary after she got elected, but I think they found someone from the Hitler Youth Movement instead.
By the way, what's with the hometown listing? I live in New Mexico.
Get Real Heath's blog is the only true political news site in our state. We are lucky to have him providing great stories to US readers.
Curious From Arizona

Tucson, AZ

#35 Jun 23, 2011
Stale wrote:
<quoted text>good gawd! This BS has been around for ages and you are stupid enough to think it's new and novel? Post it a few more times so your AH in-the-dark buddies can think you are on the cutting edge.
I don't remember saying anything about it being new and novel, or cutting edge, for that matter. I happen to think it is not only true, it is a short and simple way of describing the political atmosphere of today.

I obviously struck a nerve hard enough to make you feel you had to respond. We, Progressives just lovvvvvvvvve to put the Republicans in a position where they have to defend their philosophy. But at least we don't feel the necessity to stoop to using foul language to describe our opponents.

Another interesting tagline might be:

"Since Republicans hate Progressives, they must consider themselves Regressive."

"Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
doingtheNEWT

Glendale, AZ

#36 Jun 23, 2011
El Desmadroso wrote:
The question of the day is: Where are all those Susana Martinez supporters at?? Where you at?? You're usually very loud spoken during other forums... come out, come out, wherever you are.
It's so unlike them. Maybe they're out practicing the Newt, it appears Gingrich supporter's new two-step-out is becoming very popular among republicans.
len

Tucson, AZ

#37 Jun 23, 2011
Bertha wrote:
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Was this from Joe Monahans blog?
Thanks for calling him out. Maybe mr. opinion will give credit to the author next time w/o having to be called out on it.
len

Tucson, AZ

#38 Jun 23, 2011
biffitbiffitgood

Glendale, AZ

#39 Jun 29, 2011
Curious From Arizona wrote:
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I don't remember saying anything about it being new and novel, or cutting edge, for that matter. I happen to think it is not only true, it is a short and simple way of describing the political atmosphere of today.
I obviously struck a nerve hard enough to make you feel you had to respond. We, Progressives just lovvvvvvvvve to put the Republicans in a position where they have to defend their philosophy. But at least we don't feel the necessity to stoop to using foul language to describe our opponents.
Another interesting tagline might be:
"Since Republicans hate Progressives, they must consider themselves Regressive."
"Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D."
Politics is like driving by Biff's outhouse by the lake. Whether you go by backward R or forward in D, on any day of the week, it stinks to high-heaven!

Since: Sep 08

Albuquerque, NM

#40 Jun 29, 2011
Monahan got it wrong and posted this today:
"Our Legal Beagles continue to walk the Guv's recent defeat at the State Supeme Court around the block. Here's the latest:

Your Santa Fe Legal Beagle who was on your blog Tuesday should have listened to the argument in front of the Supreme Court--if so, he would not have made the following comment about the Governor striking a digit from an appropriations bill: "It has been done in other states with line-item vetoes and similar Constitutional provisions. It just didn't fly here."

The Governor's attorney tried that line on the Court and they smacked it down. Justice Bosson noted that the states that allowed it generally had specific provisions allowing for scaling down appropriations. Justice Chavez noted that not only was there only one state with similar constitutional provisions --Wisconsin-- that allowed scaling, but that the Alaska Supreme Court, in declining to follow Wisconsin's lead, had noted that no other state had taken that path. So the statement that this had been done in other states with similar constitutional provisions is simply wrong.

Given that your Legal Beagle kept referring to what the governor did as a "single-digit" veto (legally meaningless term), echoing the argument taken in the Governor's brief in the case, gives me a notion of where that Beagle might have its kennel."

http://joemonahansnewmexico.blogspot.com/2011...

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