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WOW belding is still around.
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A concerned person wrote: <quoted text> well maybe you were already insane ,so i didnt have to drive you anyplace. but if i did its obviously a very short trip. ok do you understand this , just because the legistlature makes a "law " and sticks it into the mcl's doesnt automatically make it constitutional or legal. most attorneys you find will never mention the words "corpus delecti" to you or anyone ,since if you havent relizes the court system is nothing more then a tool the govt uses to create revenue. and if attorneys did start going around using this for a defense like that should ,it would be very bad for buisness and a lot of the people who are in jail,get arrested or ticketed and fined would get off with nothing. so how were you supposibly a victim and never injured ? also nice how you never answered my question Doesn't matter if you think it is constitutional or not and it is legal that is why its called a law. You have the power to change anything that is unjust by devoting your life to politics and being heard. I am not going to debate with you wether it is just or unjust, unconstitutional or constitutional. IT IS A LAW. Dan thinks he has a pretty strong case or he would not have waived his arraingment. HE WAIVED IT by choice. I think I did answer all of your questions. Unless you had a question without a ?.
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A concerned person wrote: <quoted text> i have issues ?where do you get i have issues ? you dont know me and thank God you never will . you dont know anything about me or my children and like i said never will . i have taught my children not to lie and if you had any brains you would be able to tell if yours were lieing or not since it is extremely easy to tell.Also if my kids were lieing its because they learned it from watching yours do it. dont assume i dont listen to my children,i listen to them about everything and make up my own mind on what they are saying which every compitent parent should do .but since your not compitent and think your children are perfect you just believe everything they say since you are so blind. hmm well i since they didnt want to remain SILENT since they shot their mouths off that they were the ones who turned him in. I have never heard anything so obsurd in my life. I will quote you "well students arent as reputable as a teacher" and "you see again would of been better if a teacher would of done it." Those were your words. In those statements you are saying that because it was from students it is not as creditable and if it was from a teacher it would have been much more believable. Believe me I will never have to defend my children to you. I don't have to defend them at all they are upstanding young adults if you knew them you would be very embarassed by your statements of them.
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A concerned person wrote: <quoted text> since when have there been "like 100 school shootings in a span of 10 years". i have only heard of a maybe 5 high schools that i can even recall. also if you were smart enough to relize this has been going on for a LONG time but do to the fact our media coverage is almost instantanious now days and the fact that they want the negative stories since they get them better ratings. One of the worst school bombings happened right here in michigan , i cannot remember the exact date but i belive it was in the 1920's .i would have to go look through my library to find the book i have on it. it happend down in Bath , and if you go to the site where it happened there is a monument up there , yes i have seen it numerous times. i will agree with you that most kids dont respect or dont fear and its not that they dont relize , its they dont care. Donot lump me in with these parents who dont care . if you would cared for your kids maybe you would of spanked more , you claim you didnt need to ,well maybe you should of since then maybe your kids would of been more of a model for other kids. yes i would agree there are a few parents that believe they would go to jail if they spank but the problem is most of them think its wrong to spank. LOL. Again you assume when it comes to my children. Assume what you will but I can tell you you are way off base and would be embarassed by your statements against my children. I never needed to spank. I layed down the rules and if they didn't follow the rules. I used time out and I was CONSISTANT so I never needed to spank. When they got older I grounded and I stuck to it. I never unground early ever. I gave them the chance to follow the rules and with consistancy in their life they choose to. Now would I have spanked if it came to that point
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Jason wrote: <quoted text>regardles of facts, and other crap in this P!$$ poor comment, one should never dissrespect someone the way you just did.......I dont spank my kids either....they havent needed it, so tell me how I'm a bad parent too... We are not bad parents we just know how to parent effectivly!
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A concerned person wrote: <quoted text> thats what the said in the one story, i didnt have the exact number of the statue he was charged with and they have so many in the MCL's that who knows , so i couldnt look it up to see exactly , course tv8 lately has been kind of exadurating storys from what i have seen.see the problem is even if he does get probation and a fine its still classed as felony and that will destroy his life.
see thats the problem is there is no eveidence , like i said there has to be 2 elements to any crime like i stated earlier , 1] there has to be a victim , which there wasnt , where is anyone with any kind of injurys . there arent any. and 2] there has to be damages or injurys . According to your Corpus Delecti they only had to prove he said it and they didn't have to prove it because he admitted saying it. Corpus Delecti only says in order for there to be a trial you have to prove a crime has been commited. If you are trying a person for Arson you have to prove the property was burnt. If you try a person for theft you have to prove the property was stolen. In order to go to trial they had to prove the thearts were made and they were. NOW he will get a chance to prove it was done in a jokin manner and not a serious one. I don't need anymore lessons from you on the law. I have enough lawyers in my family that remind me everyday.
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Give it up wrote: <quoted text> We are not bad parents we just know how to parent effectivly! bingo!
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Since it will only let me post 4000 characters I can not post the information I found, but I can post the link. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html I counted 55 shootings in High schools from ages 14-18.
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Wouldn't ya know it a school in Kazoo County locked down right now because of a threating note found in the bathroom.
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Give it up wrote: <quoted text> According to your Corpus Delecti they only had to prove he said it and they didn't have to prove it because he admitted saying it. Corpus Delecti only says in order for there to be a trial you have to prove a crime has been commited. If you are trying a person for Arson you have to prove the property was burnt. If you try a person for theft you have to prove the property was stolen. In order to go to trial they had to prove the thearts were made and they were. NOW he will get a chance to prove it was done in a jokin manner and not a serious one. I don't need anymore lessons from you on the law. I have enough lawyers in my family that remind me everyday. you obviously didnt read the definition(might i suggest blacks law) nor the court case , maybe you should before speaking
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Give it up wrote: <quoted text> I have never heard anything so obsurd in my life. I will quote you "well students arent as reputable as a teacher" and "you see again would of been better if a teacher would of done it." Those were your words. In those statements you are saying that because it was from students it is not as creditable and if it was from a teacher it would have been much more believable. Believe me I will never have to defend my children to you. I don't have to defend them at all they are upstanding young adults if you knew them you would be very embarassed by your statements of them. actually no i wouldnt be embarassed since most people will say the same thing but the problem is they dont see there kids as others do .
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Give it up wrote: Wouldn't ya know it a school in Kazoo County locked down right now because of a threating note found in the bathroom. ewwwwww a note i am shivering in my shoes ... ohhh wait i dont have any on
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A concerned person wrote: <quoted text> you obviously didnt read the definition(might i suggest blacks law) nor the court case , maybe you should before speaking Corpus delicti. The body of a crime. The body (material substance) upon which a crime has been committed, e.g., the corpse of a murdered man, the charred remains of a house burned down. In a derivative sense, the substance or foundation of a crime; the substantial fact that a crime has been committed. There is your black law definition. Body of the crime. A Threat involving a school. Material substance. He admitted he said it. Now he will have his day in court to prove wether he was joking or not joking.
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who cares really, guilty or not, this kids ruined his life in the public eye, by his own stupid mistake.
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A concerned person wrote: <quoted text> actually no i wouldnt be embarassed since most people will say the same thing but the problem is they dont see there kids as others do . You accuse people of being bad parents when they don't spank their children even though there are parents who parent effectivly and don't need too. You assume an adult is more creditable then a student. You choose to trash people you don't even know. Can't you have a civil conversation without getting all hysterical and defensive?
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A concerned person wrote: <quoted text> ewwwwww a note i am shivering in my shoes ... ohhh wait i dont have any on So no lockdown should have occured?
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shes helpless, yet entertaining to watch
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