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2 charged in 1993 murder

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MichiganderPride

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OMG!!!! jjooee just agreed with me, quick!!!! Give me something we can argue about!!!!!
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Boy Blue wrote:
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Troy Brake murdered 4 innocent people in cold blood. You have to wonder what kind of parenting and childhood he had that turned him into such a monster.
Unless you know his family you have no right to say something like you did about his parenting and childhood.
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<quoted text>I'm sure my theory, I mean twiggy, I mean his mother can share all the sordid details with you. She has on the other threads and still does to this day. But be prepared for a ride! ;)
SF, I am not going to say anything against you in a negative way. You can feel free to say whatever you want about me, thats ok, but I will not condemn you for anything you say or feel about me.
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SF, I am not going to say anything against you in a negative way. You can feel free to say whatever you want about me, thats ok, but I will not condemn you for anything you say or feel about me.
go away fruitcake!!!!!!!!!!

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Sep 28, 2009
 
MichiganderPride wrote:
Why don't you people go back to what ever forums you came from and quit hi-jacking this one. We already have one discussion going on here, or did you miss that?
You're right. Sorry the crazies got loose.
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MichiganderPride wrote:
Why don't you people go back to what ever forums you came from and quit hi-jacking this one. We already have one discussion going on here, or did you miss that?
I agree with you MichiganderPride. This thread belongs to the 93 murders and none other.
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I agree with you MichiganderPride. This thread belongs to the 93 murders and none other.
da da which way did he go da da da dum ass.
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faceman62 wrote:
hello everybody been awhile since i was last here. i see you people are still talking about the same old stuff.the offer still stands for coffee.so when is the new trail going to take place?i guess i will have to go to court again.i hope this time you people will see the truth.then you can start writing about something worth talking about.hey i heard fred got his ass kicked in the big house.i am sure him and randy are someones little bitches bye now.well have a good day.rest in peace kevin.love you bro..
I'm not surprised if Fred got his ass kicked. Most jail house snitches do. As for Randy, he's nobodys "bitch". Never has been. Never will be. You obviously do not know him. Get a hobby.
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It never ceases to amaze me how careless the media can be at times. They have these two men tried and convicted already without due process of law. What amazes me even further is how cold, cruel, judgemental, and convicting indivuals can be without even knowing the full story or the players of the story. You want the truth--here it is. Kevin Pluger was a drug dealer--got it? A drug dealer. He had been selling illegal drugs for years---and if you attended Holland High School in the early to mid 1980's, you would be totally aware of the fact that Kevin AND Craig Pluger were the go-to guys if you wanted drugs. BUT regardless of his lifestyle, he did not deserve to have his life taken from him. Did Randy Czerkies have anything to do with his murder? Absolutley not. Randy was a victim of poor timing and circumstance and was sadly---at the wrong place at the wrong time. Randy was not the one who pulled the trigger. That I know for sure. He would not have killed his brother--it wasn't in him to do something like that. Fred McCormick? A slimey con and liar who has every reason to lie and blame someone other than himself. HE was there and knows what really happened. What about the others who where there at the time of the murder? Where are they in this story? I know of someone that knows what this whole thing was all about and what really happened. He hasn't been called as a witness---and probably never will be. Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe--just maybe the police have the wrong theory??? Did it ever occur to anyone that perhaps Kevin Pluger stole the drugs from his supplier, and that his supplier is the one that had him killed, and that maybe that is why people have been afraid to talk all of these years? I am not saying this is what happended, I am just throwing it out as another logical theory. So why are the police pressuring people to testify against Randy Czerkies? Its simple. Allegan County has to "keep up with the Jones's" after Holland recently solved the Janet Chandler case. They now feel obligated to sove their own Cold Case. They want their 15 minutes of fame, and just want a conviction---regardless of guilt or innocense. Police officials are no strangers to changing the evidence, or miraclously producing new evidence to support their "theory" of how a crime occured. I believe that is what is happening here. Can I prove this? Nope--it's just a theory. I remember something so vividly from 15 years ago, and that is the media coverage of Randy Czerkie's arrest ---he walked with his head held high. I remember thinking that that was not the action of a guilty man. Sure enough, a few days later charges were dropped due to lack of evidence. I have personally weighed the evidence and I believe that there is insufficient evidence to convict Randy Czerkies. I find him Not Guilty due to a reasonable doubt. The jury is still out on Fred McCormick.
The police are very good at creating ANY theory that they think will solve a crime whether it is the right theory or not. There is alot about this crime that I believe along with you that people are afraid to tell the truth because of what could be done to them or there families.
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sad wrote:
<quoted text>You go tell them like it is.You have guts like michigan pride.Good job Thank you!
Guts? Please. You fans of Randy have been slandering the Dectives, Craig and Kevin (who is not even here to defend himself). Yes, you need to watch what your saying, because it's all bull. You are saying all this because Your loved one is sitting behind bars for the next 40 years. Well, our loved one got the death penalty for your loved ones greed and stupidity!
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