Student

Fairfax, VA

#41 Mar 26, 2011
I am not saying anyone is telling lies. I am just saying I have not had a problem. As far as the school being easy, I have had very hard times with a few classes. Not easy at all. I know if my work is not right, I will be receiving an F. Anyone that goes to a school and thinks they are smarter than the teachers are dumed. I know my place and I am there to learn and have learned a lot being at MSU.
Ignorance

Princeton, WV

#42 Mar 26, 2011
Black girl wrote:
I think it is racist to worry about someone saying the school is going black. It is going black and we will likely have a black president...
Dr. Roslyn Artis and many Dr. William White
I love it that the school is much more black as a stong black student. Get over youself and be happy. I as in special education my entire life due to a learning diablity....MSU took me in and I am making all A's with a couple of B's....its great.
Only MSU would value my tallents and brain.
Go, go, go...MSU...keep going...
Dr. Artis and Dr. White you are AIGHT.


Looks like u still need to atend those special education classes. Was u just sent through every year of school because u are " SPECIAL " ? U still havent learned to speak proper english and u cant spell either. So do yourself a favor and dont speak on here because u are just makin an idiot of yourself.
Black girl

Beckley, WV

#43 Mar 27, 2011
Please leave me and my crib Dr. Roslyn Artis and Dr. William White alone. I think they are doing a FINE job and I am gettin a world class learning experience.

We will overcome. Keep up the fight! I am gettin it at MSU and I am proud as I will be graduating in not two many years.
Ignorance wrote:
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Looks like u still need to atend those special education classes. Was u just sent through every year of school because u are " SPECIAL " ? U still havent learned to speak proper english and u cant spell either. So do yourself a favor and dont speak on here because u are just makin an idiot of yourself.
DUH

Princeton, WV

#44 Mar 27, 2011
Black girl wrote:
Please leave me and my crib Dr. Roslyn Artis and Dr. William White alone. I think they are doing a FINE job and I am gettin a world class learning experience.
We will overcome. Keep up the fight! I am gettin it at MSU and I am proud as I will be graduating in not two many years.
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LOL When u open your mouth you prove my point. What are u overcoming and who u fighting???
Black girl

Beckley, WV

#45 Mar 27, 2011
What do you mean proving your point....I am over COMEING YOU BOY...Go Artis and White Go
Really

Princeton, WV

#46 Mar 27, 2011
Black girl wrote:
What do you mean proving your point....I am over COMEING YOU BOY...Go Artis and White Go
My point is you cant spell and u just dont get it. You cant have a conversation without showing your ignorance and every time u speak u prove my point. Its not about MSU im talking about you.
Black girl

Beckley, WV

#47 Mar 27, 2011
Go to h....I am brillient and know it. I can do anything I want to do

Go Dr. Artis....go Dr. White...they are helpin us....
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LOL

Princeton, WV

#49 Mar 27, 2011
Black girl wrote:
Go to h....I am brillient and know it. I can do anything I want to do
Go Dr. Artis....go Dr. White...they are helpin us....
"brillient " lmao have u taken english or spelling????
Dean of students

Beckley, WV

#50 Mar 27, 2011
She will do herself in...I met her one time and could not believe this person was a dean.

I was told she got the position because she "helped" Polk out while working as secretaries just like Kelly Mays, Cynthia Alexander, and Roslyn Artis....

Its sort of funny.
drlacross

Oakvale, WV

#51 Mar 28, 2011
Black girl wrote:
Go to h....I am brillient and know it. I can do anything I want to do
Go Dr. Artis....go Dr. White...they are helpin us....
This is a joke, right?(brillient and helpin) Are you a student as MSU?
Secretaries

Welch, WV

#52 Mar 28, 2011
Dean of students wrote:
She will do herself in...I met her one time and could not believe this person was a dean.
I was told she got the position because she "helped" Polk out while working as secretaries just like Kelly Mays, Cynthia Alexander, and Roslyn Artis....
Its sort of funny.
Here are a few statistics:

Cindy Alexander was secretary and is now a VP. she has never worked in higher education before MSU. She has two degrees from MSU. One of which is a degree in Strategic Leadership
Tracy Marra was a secretary and is now a Dean, she has never worked in higher education before MSU. Has degrees from MSU. One of which is a degree in Strategic Leadership.
Kay Stump De La Rosa started as a part-time secretary and is now head of HR. Has her degrees from MSU. She is currently enrolled in the DEL program.
Jim Owston was a secretary for Polk and is now Senior Officer for Information Technology.
Re Secretaries

Beckley, WV

#53 Mar 28, 2011
"Here are a few statistics:

Cindy Alexander was secretary and is now a VP. she has never worked in higher education before MSU. She has two degrees from MSU. One of which is a degree in Strategic Leadership
Tracy Marra was a secretary and is now a Dean, she has never worked in higher education before MSU. Has degrees from MSU. One of which is a degree in Strategic Leadership.
Kay Stump De La Rosa started as a part-time secretary and is now head of HR. Has her degrees from MSU. She is currently enrolled in the DEL program.
Jim Owston was a secretary for Polk and is now Senior Officer for Information Technology."

Sounds like you have something against secretaries. Who knows an office better? The boss or the secretary? Sounds like these individuals learned the ropes of the business and moved up. What makes you think someone starting off in that position is not eventually qualified to hold a position of authority? The job title does not make the person, the person makes the job.....
Secretaries

Welch, WV

#54 Mar 28, 2011
Re Secretaries wrote:
"Here are a few statistics:
Cindy Alexander was secretary and is now a VP. she has never worked in higher education before MSU. She has two degrees from MSU. One of which is a degree in Strategic Leadership
Tracy Marra was a secretary and is now a Dean, she has never worked in higher education before MSU. Has degrees from MSU. One of which is a degree in Strategic Leadership.
Kay Stump De La Rosa started as a part-time secretary and is now head of HR. Has her degrees from MSU. She is currently enrolled in the DEL program.
Jim Owston was a secretary for Polk and is now Senior Officer for Information Technology."
Sounds like you have something against secretaries. Who knows an office better? The boss or the secretary? Sounds like these individuals learned the ropes of the business and moved up. What makes you think someone starting off in that position is not eventually qualified to hold a position of authority? The job title does not make the person, the person makes the job.....
There is nothing wrong with secretaries. They are the backbone of an organization. The issue is education and experience. Until recently, MSU did not have executives who had earned terminal degrees. Alexander and Artis received their degrees within the past year. Silosky does not have a terminal degree. Most universities would never hire executives who had not been working in higher education for many years and have a terminal degree. The only organizations that are willing to accept less than a terminal degree are community colleges. This is my point.
Re Secretaries

Beckley, WV

#55 Mar 28, 2011
Got the education and experience part. Just thought it was derogatory the emphasis on the secretary. Do you not get an "education and experience" while on the job? I am not referring to where someone obtained their degrees. I might be wrong here and by all means correct me, but are most administrators past professors?
Re Secretaries

Beckley, WV

#56 Mar 28, 2011
There is not another school in the country where secretaries regularly are promoted to DEAN. It does not matter how smart they are or what education they have attained. This is irrelevant.

Most colleges will not even promote students who have earned a Ph.D. at their own institution much less promote someone to dean.

At MSU is common knowledge why the secretaries and other similar people were promoted by Polk. Everyone knows...and it was not for their brain!

The things that take place at MSU are hard to fathom any place else.
The Faces of Dean

Welch, WV

#57 Mar 29, 2011
One of my friends works at MSU and he talks about the dean of students and the number of faces. One of her faces being nice to your face and trashing you behind your back. She has trashed so many. An example that my friend talks about is how she acts like she is the best of friends with the Cindy Alexander but trashes her behind her back. The dean of students has her eyes on Alexanders' position. He talked about how she has trashed Jon Reed. She says that he is an idiot and is not capable of managing the dean of students. Another face is the one where she acts like she is on the side of the student. When a student meets with her about an issue about a class she immediately takes the instructors side and doesn't even consider what the student has to say.

There are numerous faces to dean of students. None of them are the real person. Even she couldn't stand to look at herself in the mirror. The face she sees in the mirror is hideous. No the youthful beauty that she thinks she is.
MSU employee

Beckley, WV

#58 Mar 29, 2011
Everyone knows she does not like Cindy Alexander or John Reed. Did you know she thinks she is an attorney herself. She has talked numerous times about the "legal mistakes" that John and Ros have made! LOL... She also talks about how many cases she "solved" while working for an attorney. She even things less of Artis. I think it is amusing. They all know her character...this is no revelation! LOL....More mess at MSU.
The Faces of Dean wrote:
One of my friends works at MSU and he talks about the dean of students and the number of faces. One of her faces being nice to your face and trashing you behind your back. She has trashed so many. An example that my friend talks about is how she acts like she is the best of friends with the Cindy Alexander but trashes her behind her back. The dean of students has her eyes on Alexanders' position. He talked about how she has trashed Jon Reed. She says that he is an idiot and is not capable of managing the dean of students. Another face is the one where she acts like she is on the side of the student. When a student meets with her about an issue about a class she immediately takes the instructors side and doesn't even consider what the student has to say.
There are numerous faces to dean of students. None of them are the real person. Even she couldn't stand to look at herself in the mirror. The face she sees in the mirror is hideous. No the youthful beauty that she thinks she is.
The Faces of Dean

Welch, WV

#59 Mar 29, 2011
MSU employee wrote:
Everyone knows she does not like Cindy Alexander or John Reed. Did you know she thinks she is an attorney herself. She has talked numerous times about the "legal mistakes" that John and Ros have made! LOL... She also talks about how many cases she "solved" while working for an attorney. She even things less of Artis. I think it is amusing. They all know her character...this is no revelation! LOL....More mess at MSU.
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This certain sounds like that dean of students. She has a big old ego. I bet msu hopes that the students hire her to be their attorney. That way msu wont have to pay. LOL
MSU employee

Beckley, WV

#60 Mar 29, 2011
Who ever wrote this postings is an idot. Enough said. LOL
someone who really knows wrote:
I really hope no one pays attention to the ignorance of the individual who started this thread or the ridiculous accusations that others who have commented on the subject have made.
1) Whoever Alex Johns is (The person who began this forum) falls under one of the following categories:
A: A student who acted like a jackass, was reprimanded and now thinks posting a forum on Topix is going to have an affect on her job status.
B: A student who appealed a grade they were unhappy with and either filed their appeal too late or had no grounds for appeal because they didn't do their work as a student and are now mad because they have to live with the grade they earned.
C: Simply put...a jackass
2: Place the blame at the university with the individuals it falls with. I'll be the first to admit that many of the administrators at MSU do not effectively do their jobs, make decisions that don't have the students best interest in mind, and focus more on making their co-workers look bad than they do on doing their jobs or putting the MSU Students' interest as top priority. She's fought for students to have a lot more than we do only to be denied. Guess who denies what we have? Our legal department. Attack them if you really want to put the blame on someone who deserves it.
3: Dean Marra does not dress like a hooker. She dresses appropriate for all occasions. Whether the event is formal, business, or casual, her attire is never inappropriate and she seems to take great pride in her appearance.
4: She deserves to be referred to as Dean. That is her professional title. If you're in a university setting trying to obtain a degree and become a professional, then you should be prepared to refer to someone in a professional manner. If you don't think you should have to do that, drop out of school and be that person that lives in their mom and dad's basement til you're 40 and still has mama wash your clothes and make you PB&J.
5: Back to Alex Johns. Who goes to a university and says, "I'm not going because of the dean of students." NOBODY! You go to a school for a reason such as program of study, proximity to home, cost of education (and guess what there's a lot worse in this state than MSU), etc. What you've posted doesn't indiciate you are someone who has taken a tour and decided against MSU, it indicates your someone with a grudge who thinks Topix will get someone fired. Well it isn't going to work because 9/10 of the forums posted (such as this one) are invalid. And to break away from my approach of being calm, cool and collected with my reply to this garbage, I beg the question: If you aren't going to attend MSU, then why do you give a damn? Hate to tell you kid, your story doesn't add up.
6: This is my final point. MSU is not "going black." The school is designed for any student who qualifies and has the MONEY to attend the opportunity to do so. For the most part, I have had very good experiences with the diverse student body and faculty of MSU. Many of my friends are black and international. All students should be open to ANYONE WHO IS QUALIFIED REGARDLESS OF ETHNICITY OR SKIN COLOR, to come in and have an opportunity to better the university, if in fact there is ever an opening in any position on campus. Everyone is welcome at MSU regardless of what those who have posted on this forum may say. AND FINALLY, IF YOU'RE AN MSU STUDENT WHO IS UPSET, FINISH THE SEMESTER, TRANSFER SCHOOLS, AND PAY YOUR MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE INSTEAD OF CRYING AND MOANING.
Tracy Mara

Beckley, WV

#61 Mar 29, 2011
Yes...I believe she is an idiot. Have you ever talked to her...she interrupts and just talks about herself. Its pathetic.
MSU employee wrote:
Who ever wrote this postings is an idot. Enough said. LOL
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