Why do you hate us so bad?

Why do you hate us so bad?

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I dont get it

Lubbock, TX

#1 Nov 11, 2012
My boyfriend and I were at lowes buying plumbing stuff to redo our bathroom sink and while standing in the isle we held hands for just a moment as we tried to pick the best sink to go with our decor. A group of young men started watching us but we paid it no mind. When we walked out to our car the young men followed calling us fags and one young man even went up and spit at the ground at us. Why do you hate so much? All we did was go out to buy what we needed and yet people like these young men felt so compelled to follow us to our car and spit at us. Why do you hate us so much? What did we ever do to you? Why?
not hating

Beckley, WV

#2 Nov 11, 2012
I dont get it wrote:
My boyfriend and I were at lowes buying plumbing stuff to redo our bathroom sink and while standing in the isle we held hands for just a moment as we tried to pick the best sink to go with our decor. A group of young men started watching us but we paid it no mind. When we walked out to our car the young men followed calling us fags and one young man even went up and spit at the ground at us. Why do you hate so much? All we did was go out to buy what we needed and yet people like these young men felt so compelled to follow us to our car and spit at us. Why do you hate us so much? What did we ever do to you? Why?
Eh. I'm guessing because the overwhelming majority or people find it gross, unnatural, a sin, and offensive. I'm not saying its those things - I'm just trying to offer an opinion as to the hatred. My personal belief is that if u want to be gay - more power to ya. Just don't shove it down my throat by showing PDA. Even a small thing such as holding hands is offensive to some. Just my 2c though.
sistersalvation

Beckley, WV

#3 Nov 11, 2012
I dont get it wrote:
My boyfriend and I were at lowes buying plumbing stuff to redo our bathroom sink and while standing in the isle we held hands for just a moment as we tried to pick the best sink to go with our decor. A group of young men started watching us but we paid it no mind. When we walked out to our car the young men followed calling us fags and one young man even went up and spit at the ground at us. Why do you hate so much? All we did was go out to buy what we needed and yet people like these young men felt so compelled to follow us to our car and spit at us. Why do you hate us so much? What did we ever do to you? Why?
Because you touch yourself at night.
How it is

Beckley, WV

#4 Nov 11, 2012
YOU have to get it through your head that homosexuality is NOT NORMAL and most all Normal people look down on it because it is very nasty. If you desire to be with another guy, that is YOur Choice, and I do not agree with it, However again IT is a choice YOU made, I did not make it nor did the majority of others who like me do not like it.But when I have people like yourself try and flaunt that behavior , then I have an issue with it.BUT make no mistake I feel the same about a man and woman who act like they are all alone in the world and everyone else wants to watch their nastiness in the stores."get a room" and stay in it ,BUT at least Be respectful of yourselves and others who will not accept your actions because it is Unnatural. I do not hate you BUt If I flaunted myself with a Lady in front of you would you not feel some offense ? Of course you would and well you should.But You have to consider that same respect and actions, it is not acceptable in society and no matter how many rights the minority may give you the majority will never accept it as a norm , simply because it is not at all !!
backwoods

Bluefield, WV

#5 Nov 11, 2012
Well it is very noticed by others that are not gay, I would never do such as the men at lowes, but in my life my uncle was gay and had a mate and they lived together for over 20 yrs till his death. Both men attended all family function and get together's played cards with there brothers but never once did I see them hold hands or do anything of that nature in public or private. It is well to early in our evolution to accept this as normal.
The family accepted and knew he was gay, and he in return respected us by not doing what you did.
I dont get it

Lubbock, TX

#6 Nov 12, 2012
I never chose to be gay, I wish people would understand that. Why would anyone wake up one day and choose a life where they would be picked on, beat up, apparently spit on now, and possibly be murdered over?
As for what we did, it was a subtle hand holding that lasted less than a second, and further more, if straight people can do it at any given time that's offensive as well but we dont go around spitting on people or hate you for it.
Gay

Lubbock, TX

#7 Nov 12, 2012
I dont get it wrote:
My boyfriend and I were at lowes buying plumbing stuff to redo our bathroom sink and while standing in the isle we held hands for just a moment as we tried to pick the best sink to go with our decor. A group of young men started watching us but we paid it no mind. When we walked out to our car the young men followed calling us fags and one young man even went up and spit at the ground at us. Why do you hate so much? All we did was go out to buy what we needed and yet people like these young men felt so compelled to follow us to our car and spit at us. Why do you hate us so much? What did we ever do to you? Why?
My partner and I were at a chili's eating dinner one night, no holding hands, no public affection, and because some straight asshole figured us out to be a gay couple decided to keep going on and on about how he couldnt eat so close to fags. Then on our way out followed us out cussing and using the queer bomb on us over and over. It wouldnt matter if you held hands or not, people around here hate us for being different plain and simple and no matter what you say to these people they will never understand that its not a choice. You're obviously younger gays am I right? I am in my 40s and I can tell you, no matter what you say to them, no matter how hard you cry and plea for them to understand, it will never bring them into the realm of thinking that its not a choice. I have tried since I was 13 to make my parents understand I was different, and because they electro shock therapy, and all the praying of demons out of my body didnt work, my parents threw me out at 16. I am 42 now and havent spoken to my parents since that day. It is the same for these folks. Good luck and do yourself a favor, move out of WV. Only reason I am back here is my partner's family (which love us and accept us dearly) are sick and need care while one recovers from a broken hip.
Sad but true

Lubbock, TX

#8 Nov 12, 2012
I have tried like many others to get family to understand since I was probably around 10 years old that I was gay. My parents never raised me wrong, had loving parents, my father and mother was always there for me until they realized they couldnt as they put it "fix me." Only us gays will truly understand that no matter what you say they will never belive that it's not a choice. It is far easier for them to belive that we choose this life than to accept we were made a little different. Even to this day my parents wont talk to me or anything, even despite my younger sister coming out as a lesbian. Even with my mom's older brother being gay, they blamed him for gaying us up despite the fact we never knew him till I came out. All any of us can do is be strong and stand together and one day it will get a little easier.
sistersalvation

Springfield, NJ

#9 Nov 12, 2012
I dont get it wrote:
I never chose to be gay, I wish people would understand that. Why would anyone wake up one day and choose a life where they would be picked on, beat up, apparently spit on now, and possibly be murdered over?
As for what we did, it was a subtle hand holding that lasted less than a second, and further more, if straight people can do it at any given time that's offensive as well but we dont go around spitting on people or hate you for it.
I chose to be straight. How did you not choose to be gay?
Your Choice

Beckley, WV

#10 Nov 12, 2012
I dont get it wrote:
I never chose to be gay, I wish people would understand that. Why would anyone wake up one day and choose a life where they would be picked on, beat up, apparently spit on now, and possibly be murdered over?
As for what we did, it was a subtle hand holding that lasted less than a second, and further more, if straight people can do it at any given time that's offensive as well but we dont go around spitting on people or hate you for it.
You mean to tell me YOU do not Choose who you are attracted to ? Then I would have to call you a Liar, everyone chooses who they are attracted to Both men and women make that CHOICE. Stop trying to say You are being forced to desire another man and simply admit you like what you do cause you choose to do it.That is why People do not take you seriously.You Lie and make excuses as if someone is twisting your arm forcing you to act that way. I would have more respect for you and those like you if you would simply be honest and stop lying , and worse saying somehow you are forced into it so now YOu have to Force it down our throats as well. Most will not accept your ignorance beacuse simply they are not ignorant like you. Go live your life and do it, your going to anyway , But please stop trying to act like you a victim because YOu did Choose to do what you do. PERIOD !!!
Your Choice

Beckley, WV

#11 Nov 12, 2012
Sad but true wrote:
I have tried like many others to get family to understand since I was probably around 10 years old that I was gay. My parents never raised me wrong, had loving parents, my father and mother was always there for me until they realized they couldnt as they put it "fix me." Only us gays will truly understand that no matter what you say they will never belive that it's not a choice. It is far easier for them to belive that we choose this life than to accept we were made a little different. Even to this day my parents wont talk to me or anything, even despite my younger sister coming out as a lesbian. Even with my mom's older brother being gay, they blamed him for gaying us up despite the fact we never knew him till I came out. All any of us can do is be strong and stand together and one day it will get a little easier.
Unless you were a hermaphrodite , and your Parents decided they wanted a boy instead of the Girl you really were ( Internal female, womb ovaries etc etc etc ) and they kept the male and got rid of the female YOU are a MALE and NOT Born Gay at all.
I wish you people would stop maing excuses for your choices and act like victims that you have no choice in the matter.EVERYONE has a choice to whom they are attracted to, again Unless you were one of those hermaphrodites whose Parents did not use Common sense and "CHOSE " for you to vbe what they wanted instead of who you really were.
But now you say your sister came out of the closet and is a Lesbian ? So I dare sday there is a Problem in your home that caused REBELLION and CHOICES to be made.Your own post testifies of the facts you stated and those facts are simply YOU were NOT Born Gay.
One is either born male or female even if they have both organs like the hermaphrodites do , internally they are one or the other still not both and still NOT Born Gay !!!
Level 3

Since: Nov 08

Beckley, WV

#12 Nov 12, 2012
Are you people serious here... You all are acting like this guy being gay is an infectious disease... Your acting like Karl malone and Shawn Kemp when Magic johnson came out about having Aids in the 90's. Get it together these folks have every right to have a relatioship... They have every right to kiss hold hands etc. You people need to open your eyes here and realize this is an issue just like black folks dealt with in the 50's nd 60's they are not different they are the same as us. we are all the same we are human we are people and this hatred is ridiculous and stupid.
AND TO BE HONEST ALL OF THIS SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING ITS A DAMN SHAME SOMEONE EVEN HAS TO DEFEND THEM
Your Choice

Beckley, WV

#13 Nov 12, 2012
Jaymae wrote:
Are you people serious here... You all are acting like this guy being gay is an infectious disease... Your acting like Karl malone and Shawn Kemp when Magic johnson came out about having Aids in the 90's. Get it together these folks have every right to have a relatioship... They have every right to kiss hold hands etc. You people need to open your eyes here and realize this is an issue just like black folks dealt with in the 50's nd 60's they are not different they are the same as us. we are all the same we are human we are people and this hatred is ridiculous and stupid.
AND TO BE HONEST ALL OF THIS SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING ITS A DAMN SHAME SOMEONE EVEN HAS TO DEFEND THEM
What is a shame is people like you who think perversion is as natural as breathing. So I ask you is Zoophilia Ok with you ? What about Objectum sexuality ? Pedophilia ? Paraphilia ? Etc Etc Etc..???

So it is Ok for the guy who desires the car in your Driveway to hump it ? Or the guy who decides he likes your dog or cat or horse or whatever ? Maybe your flag pole or your child or your husdand or wife, so it would be OK cause They have Their Rights to, Don't They ?? So we open jail cells and let out all those who have the right to do what they deem themselves Born to do ?

There is NO Difference , no matter how you slice it, lay with it, smoke it, screw it,eat it breathe it, perversion is perversion No matter who it is that does it. Man or Woman, young or old , black or white, Period.

So whose rights do we bow down for next.The Lady who wants to lay with your kids ? Because she was Born that way, she is after all woman whose body is for producing kids Right ? so her desire or fetish to lay with them , strangers or not should then be OK , cause she claims she can't help herself and does not know why people say she was not born that way?

What about the Objectum sexual who like objects, Sure he loves it , carreses it and kisses it, maybe a car or motorcycle or a lawn chair or just whatever attracted him and it's ok to do that in public as well? Sure why not let your kids watch a guy hump your car and kiss it and get aroused by it, why Not the kids have to understand that there are people out there who were born to love their car or bike or lawn chair and they have to accept their actions because after all they were born that way right , just an Alternative lifestyle after all so you have to just look the other way ?

So tell me Jayme, where does it end and with whom. What if is it your car, your dog, your husband or wife or child or granny or brother or sister, O but they have rights because they were born that way and YOU have to defend them, it would be a shame not to, Right ??

Think about that FACT before you make claims that perverted people have rights in Society to do perverted Unnatural things, with each other or others , Just cause they claim They were Born that way. And if you still believe that, then YOu need to go and have every Prison door opened to all who did what they did because they were BORN, after all arn't we all Born one way or another by Your standards and have the right to act on it because we want to and CHOOSE to ??!!
Gay guy

Lubbock, TX

#14 Nov 12, 2012
sistersalvation wrote:
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I chose to be straight. How did you not choose to be gay?
So Sistersalvation, you are telling me that you ARE ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX BUT CHOOSE NOT TO ACT ON THOSE FEELINGS CORRECT?

If you are attracted to the same sex, your gay.

If you are attracted to the same sex and choose to marry someone of the opposite sex to try and fit in, your still gay.

If you are attracted to the same sex and opposite sex, your bi-sexual.

If you are attracted to the same sex and opposite sex, you're about the only person that really gets to choose....

If you are attracted to the opposite sex and choose to be with the same sex, your still straight.

If you are attracted to the opposite sex and choose to be with the opposite sex your still straight.

The only choice in this matter at all is do you A- live a lie, or B be your self.....
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Shady highschool student

Lubbock, TX

#16 Nov 12, 2012
Gay guy wrote:
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So Sistersalvation, you are telling me that you ARE ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX BUT CHOOSE NOT TO ACT ON THOSE FEELINGS CORRECT?
If you are attracted to the same sex, your gay.
If you are attracted to the same sex and choose to marry someone of the opposite sex to try and fit in, your still gay.
If you are attracted to the same sex and opposite sex, your bi-sexual.
If you are attracted to the same sex and opposite sex, you're about the only person that really gets to choose....
If you are attracted to the opposite sex and choose to be with the same sex, your still straight.
If you are attracted to the opposite sex and choose to be with the opposite sex your still straight.
The only choice in this matter at all is do you A- live a lie, or B be your self.....
Sounds like simple math to me. Guess old people sometimes forget how to think.
Shady highschool student

Lubbock, TX

#17 Nov 12, 2012
Your Choice wrote:
<quoted text>
What is a shame is people like you who think perversion is as natural as breathing. So I ask you is Zoophilia Ok with you ? What about Objectum sexuality ? Pedophilia ? Paraphilia ? Etc Etc Etc..???
So it is Ok for the guy who desires the car in your Driveway to hump it ? Or the guy who decides he likes your dog or cat or horse or whatever ? Maybe your flag pole or your child or your husdand or wife, so it would be OK cause They have Their Rights to, Don't They ?? So we open jail cells and let out all those who have the right to do what they deem themselves Born to do ?
There is NO Difference , no matter how you slice it, lay with it, smoke it, screw it,eat it breathe it, perversion is perversion No matter who it is that does it. Man or Woman, young or old , black or white, Period.
So whose rights do we bow down for next.The Lady who wants to lay with your kids ? Because she was Born that way, she is after all woman whose body is for producing kids Right ? so her desire or fetish to lay with them , strangers or not should then be OK , cause she claims she can't help herself and does not know why people say she was not born that way?
What about the Objectum sexual who like objects, Sure he loves it , carreses it and kisses it, maybe a car or motorcycle or a lawn chair or just whatever attracted him and it's ok to do that in public as well? Sure why not let your kids watch a guy hump your car and kiss it and get aroused by it, why Not the kids have to understand that there are people out there who were born to love their car or bike or lawn chair and they have to accept their actions because after all they were born that way right , just an Alternative lifestyle after all so you have to just look the other way ?
So tell me Jayme, where does it end and with whom. What if is it your car, your dog, your husband or wife or child or granny or brother or sister, O but they have rights because they were born that way and YOU have to defend them, it would be a shame not to, Right ??
Think about that FACT before you make claims that perverted people have rights in Society to do perverted Unnatural things, with each other or others , Just cause they claim They were Born that way. And if you still believe that, then YOu need to go and have every Prison door opened to all who did what they did because they were BORN, after all arn't we all Born one way or another by Your standards and have the right to act on it because we want to and CHOOSE to ??!!
I am in 9th grade and get that gays dont choose it. Read a damn science book you Rtard. Look it up on the internet or are you too lazy to learn? Its caused by genetics there is too much proof. Thank god people like you will die out and my enlightened generation will oneday inherit the earth.
How it is

Beckley, WV

#18 Nov 12, 2012
Gay guy wrote:
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So Sistersalvation, you are telling me that you ARE ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX BUT CHOOSE NOT TO ACT ON THOSE FEELINGS CORRECT?
If you are attracted to the same sex, your gay.
If you are attracted to the same sex and choose to marry someone of the opposite sex to try and fit in, your still gay.
If you are attracted to the same sex and opposite sex, your bi-sexual.
If you are attracted to the same sex and opposite sex, you're about the only person that really gets to choose....
If you are attracted to the opposite sex and choose to be with the same sex, your still straight.
If you are attracted to the opposite sex and choose to be with the opposite sex your still straight.
The only choice in this matter at all is do you A- live a lie, or B be your self.....
YOu know when I was born I do not remember anything, much less I was straight or gay. I was born a Baby and in my case MALE as is every human being.They were born a Male baby or a Female baby, Nothing else.

It was after we started to grow and learn and watch and listen we did what we did and or chose what we chose.

I am attracted to woman because I love everything about a woman, every little thing. And the fact I was raised and taught by two parents who taught me Right from wrong. We were taught a mans role in life and a womans role in life and we were taught the differences down through time . I have to admit I was very immature when it came to things like sex and women and men etc etc.

I saw my Dad and Mother interact with one another and I listened to their stories and the life they lived. And all i know is I wanted that for my life to. I wanted a job and a wife and kids and I spent my entire life trying to obtain that, and I thought I had it but it went south, BUT at no time in my generation were we ever exposed to homosexuals not even the mention of them.When I saw two men walking together in the streets they were either friends, brothers or whatever.And at no time did I ever see two men kissing or holding hands in public .
And I assure you even as I aged and my body changed and it desired to be satisfied did I ever think Gee I want a guy to be with.....Not once . That is NOT instilled in any guy NONE.

That would only come about when they are exposed to that lifestye and or those circumstances. ALL kids learn by what they SEE and HEAR in their Environment . If kids see it and it is among them sure those ideas , feelings etc etc etc can be promoted and or discouraged.

I know one whose Mother raised them as a girl, to act and be like a girl and do the things girls did and that was what he was exposed to, inspite of being around the rest of us who were the crazy guys and would do all the guy things as kids, he wanted to be like the girls and follow them, because his Mother taught hm to be that way, he was not Born that way at all. We did not understand it then and maybe had we been more attentive things could have been different who knows, But it happened just that way.
Now he sets wondering why he was born that way and no matter how many times we try and tell him he was not always that way, he still reverts back to it even after he admits what his Mother did and knows he wasn't born that way.

So there you are..

And yes everyone has thoughts and some are pretty wrong , if acted upon it is hard to tell what many of us would have done. From murder to rape to stealing etc , thoughts like that at some point enter everyones mind , But only a few act upon their thoughts and that is called Making CHOICES. Just cause you feel it or think it does NOT make it OK to do PERIOD !! Just like those in Lowes about what this thread was about. Had they simply not acted on their thoughts we would not be having these conversations on Topix . On Both sides of the issue.

Having thoughts does not make you gay or straight. I use to have thoughts of flying , did not make me a bird or able to do so .

Stop making excuses for your Choices
Haha

Beckley, WV

#19 Nov 12, 2012
I'm not even going to go on a big rant, or try and change anyone's mind. But shady high is right, for the most part you homophobes are a dying breed. And our younger, smarter, more accepting generation will be at the forefront soon enough.
gah

United States

#20 Nov 12, 2012
I don't know whether it's a choice or not, but it is not normal. Everybody knows it's not the way things work in the natural order of things. That being said, people shouldn't mistreat you, but I don't think you deserve exhaltation either.
Your Choice

Beckley, WV

#21 Nov 12, 2012
Shady highschool student wrote:
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I am in 9th grade and get that gays dont choose it. Read a damn science book you Rtard. Look it up on the internet or are you too lazy to learn? Its caused by genetics there is too much proof. Thank god people like you will die out and my enlightened generation will oneday inherit the earth.
Little kid NO SCIENCE says Gays were BORN that way there is NO gay gene and no genetics that make someone gay .That is what Government funded public schools will get you , dumbed down little sheep who follow a text book of lies rather than facts of Truth .

I have read more science books then you know exist . But I resesarch the truth, I do not accept what some government funded program paid for by the government to instill in little kids to be indoctrinated into the whole socialist agenda the government sheep follow.

Your brain dead already and can not even think for yourself, you have already made up your mind its in school books and it would not be there if it wasnt't true and same goes for the internet , are you trying to date a French Model to ? I guess you probaly never saw that commercial and have no clue what it was about , do you ?

BUt hey keep being a government sheep and believing everything it tells you is true and that if internet says it, makes it right, Right ? Ideology like yours is what has produced the "If it feels good " society and sadly your parents are not man or woman enough to teach you different and most likely because they are that same way. If you have both parents at all and they know who the Father is which in itself us a rare commodity now days.

But it is because little idiots like you are being conformed by this society to disbelieve anything outside the government structure is wrong and Old fashioned. And that all Older people need to die along with the disabled and none conformed, because it upsets the balance of the conformity of the government sheep lead sissy boys and masculine girls like yourself .

And your afraid you will learn the truth and you will not be able to set and make excuses for your sissy boy/ female masculinity ideas anymore !!

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