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#1010 Oct 6, 2012
Well there ya go wrote:
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If you consider equality, personal bodily autonomy and rational thinking "liberal" then call me that.
Equality?....Who doesn't have it again?
What groups are you talking about now?.. Illegals, gays that wish to marry but can't, or exactly whom?

Bodily autonomy? What is bodily autonomy?...It's yours to do with as you wish?......Everyone has that:)

Rational thinking isn't the monopoly of liberals..All you have to do is listen to them and watch NBC news until you start foaming at the mouth and pass out:)

On second thought, you don't even have to do that..Chris Mathews, Joy Behar, and company will do it for you:)..Barring even that, listen to the wicked witch of the West (Pelosi) and her broom man (Reid)....Now there are shining examples of "rational thinking."
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#1012 Oct 6, 2012
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Have you been sniffing too much Hercules Powder? I think the potassium nitrites have damaged your feeble dabble of a brain.
You make lots of laughable outlandish claims, without any substantiation.
"bodily autonomy?...It's yours to do with as you wish?......Everyone has that:)" Oh REALLY?
Try to indulge some cannabis or LSD in front of the authorities and see how free you will be. Try to self mutilate by putting hash marks with a razor all over your face and arms in front of the court house--- and we will watch your bodily autonomy all the way to the insane asylum. Try to let your body and soul be married to someone who just happens to be the same sex as yourself.. and you will find out quickly how little bodily autonomy you have.
EVERYONE HAS THAT.. what a big lie. What a fraud. What a statement of nonsense. Yet.. consider the source.
You win the prize for the most dumbassed posted statement for the year of 2012, on topix:)
I would ask what you are even talking about, but I don't think YOU even know:)
I have made no claims whatsoever dumbass, read the rest of the statements I have made on this entire thread if you can get your head out of your nether regions long enough to read them... I mean "D":)
I didn't mention "bodily autonomy" - "there ya go did."
I thought we were talkin about having control over one's own body and you come back with total nonsense with all of the bovine crap you posted?
Did someone stop you from doing all of those things to yourself and your PO about it?:)
You wish to self mutilate, smoke dope in front of authorities, marry someone of the same sex, blah, blah, blah and I've got a problem? LOL
Check yourself in somewhere sonny, you would be a real study:)
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#1014 Oct 6, 2012
Shootist is a DUMBASS wrote:
Congressman Paul Broun (R-Ga.) said last week that evolution and the big bang theory are "lies straight from the pit of Hell."
"God's word is true. I've come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell," said Broun, who is an MD. "It's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior."
He continued:
"You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I've found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth. I don't believe that the earth's but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That's what the Bible says."
According to NBC News, Broun's comments were part of a larger speech given at the 2012 Sportsman's Banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell, Georgia on September 27th. A clip of the video was distributed by the The Bridge Project, a liberal watchdog group.
Broun is a high-ranking member of the House Science Committee, of which Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) is also a member.
Akin made headlines last month for suggesting that women don't get pregnant from "legitimate rape" because their bodies have "ways to try to shut that whole thing down."
As Gawker points out, Broun made headlines in 2009 for trying to make 2010 "the year of the Bible."
The world is full of dumbasses.
LOL.. That was pretty good.. Had nothing to do with anything I have posted EVER but pretty good:)
"The world is full of dumbasses".. You noticed that also huh?:)

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#1016 Oct 6, 2012
No?

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#1017 Oct 7, 2012
Pastor Matt E wrote:
There are not very many species of mammals, birds, amphibians and reptiles. A leading systematic biologist, Ernst Mayr, gives the number as 17,600. Allowing for two of each species on the ark, plus seven of the few so-called “clean” kinds of animals, plus a reasonable increment for known extinct species, it is obvious that not more than, say, 50,000 animals were on the ark”(Morris, 1987).
Not only that, if the criteria for animals that the Genesis account are noted as babes and not adults, would assist in this number. The bible says nothing about saving aquatic animals in the ark. Nor saving salt water/fresh water fish in anything.
The problem is not the Ark or Noah. It is did a supreme being breath life into man, or did by random chance animals changed species until man became man from an ancestor of a primate.
To think the beginning of life came from intelligent design is far more concrete than randomness creating randomness to create complexity. That is what evolution does.. randomness creates complexity.
Sorry Bub, you can't rationalize crazy.
For giggle's sake I'll go along with your fairy tale that the world was flooded and only Noah's family survived. You will now contend that his descendants were able to populate 5 of the 7 continents and did not evolve into all of the races and statures that have existed over the last 6,000 years.
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#1018 Oct 7, 2012
Well there ya go wrote:
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You have a topix stalker? I'm jealous!
take him, please.
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#1019 Oct 7, 2012
Shootist wrote:
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LOL.. That was pretty good.. Had nothing to do with anything I have posted EVER but pretty good:)
"The world is full of dumbasses".. You noticed that also huh?:)
Gee, how did I know that statement was going to show up in this thread. Maybe he sits beside the congressman who thought Guam might tip over if he had too many troops land there. no, they are on opposite sides of the aisle.

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#1020 Oct 7, 2012
"What a moron, claiming the Bible is the truth and science is lies straight from the Devil when all enlightened people know that the Bible is a lie told by the Devil, too, and it's the Koran that is the whole truth, straight from the mouth&#65279; of God!"

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#1021 Oct 7, 2012
Well there ya go wrote:
"What a moron, claiming the Bible is the truth and science is lies straight from the Devil when all enlightened people know that the Bible is a lie told by the Devil, too, and it's the Koran that is the whole truth, straight from the mouth&#65279; of God!"
Praise Allah
Merriam Webster contains the Word of God and I'm not telling which one it is.
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#1024 Oct 8, 2012
Hey Nat, take a peek at this video. It's from Harun Yahya, the fundamentalist Muslim non-science, non-guru guy used by Pastor Matt E as a source for invalidating evolution.(No wonder he produced bogus links when asked for the source of the ignorance he plagiarized)

Anyway, it turns out the Muslim non-guru has a youtube channel and is an "expert" on many many many many many many many subjects.(hahaha... I know, dejavu).
One of those subjects is the Bible.

Do you suppose Bishop Matt E agrees w/ Harun on his interpretation of the bible as much as he agrees w/ him on his interpretation of science?

Also... I couldn't help but notice something "odd" about the audience he is speaking to......

The video is titled:
"Throughout the Bible, the phrase 'son of God' is used in the figurative sense"


Here's another one titled;

"Muslims do not cry after their martyrs"
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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#1026 Oct 8, 2012
Pastor Matt E wrote:
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The same rings true with trasnitional phases of your evolutionary theory.
Why are you changing the topic? Do you not want to talk about all the evidence that definitively disproves Noah's flood?
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You cant give specifics as to the Dolphin or any other animals transitions.
There are specifics for many animal transitions. I am not educated in dolphin evolution, specifically.
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For instance... Explain speficially (Seeing as this is how you are responding to myremarks on the Ark)
There's a difference. I'm asking you to explain impossibilities. You're asking me to explain unknowns.

If I claim that I can fit 20 elephants in my Honda Civic,'How?' is a damn good question. If I can't answer it, my claim has a big problem.

If I claim that the Allies won WW2 and you ask me for a list of every Axis casualty, sorted in order of the time they died, I have no ability to answer that, but it doesn't mean my more general claim is harmed.
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So FACTUALLY you can say that a mammal spent more time in water, 50 million years ago...their bodies changed and lost the ability to move onto land at all??? REALLY.
What's so difficult to believe about that? Look at an animal like a hippo compared to something like a manatee.

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#1027 Oct 8, 2012
I was once questioning an atheist. I use that term since this person isn't hostile towards believers, like some of the anti-theists we see on here. He was arguing adaptability, and the example he used was that some people can get accustomed to holding their breath under water for several minutes which made evolutionary theory true. Sure, it's true that a person can learn to do such things. No argument there. But I point out that just because one person can do it, it does not cause anyone else to be able to do it. It is not a trait passed on to their offspring that they can just jump in the water and not breathe. So...how could one change in one person/animal affect an entire species? Expert explanations only, please.

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#1028 Oct 8, 2012
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I was once questioning an atheist. I use that term since this person isn't hostile towards believers, like some of the anti-theists we see on here. He was arguing adaptability, and the example he used was that some people can get accustomed to holding their breath under water for several minutes which made evolutionary theory true. Sure, it's true that a person can learn to do such things. No argument there. But I point out that just because one person can do it, it does not cause anyone else to be able to do it. It is not a trait passed on to their offspring that they can just jump in the water and not breathe. So...how could one change in one person/animal affect an entire species? Expert explanations only, please.
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#1029 Oct 8, 2012
Oh, and time... sorry, I am not an expert.

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#1030 Oct 8, 2012
Super Nifty Name wrote:
I was once questioning an atheist. I use that term since this person isn't hostile towards believers, like some of the anti-theists we see on here. He was arguing adaptability, and the example he used was that some people can get accustomed to holding their breath under water for several minutes which made evolutionary theory true. Sure, it's true that a person can learn to do such things. No argument there. But I point out that just because one person can do it, it does not cause anyone else to be able to do it. It is not a trait passed on to their offspring that they can just jump in the water and not breathe. So...how could one change in one person/animal affect an entire species? Expert explanations only, please.
The closest parallel to what you are referring to are studies that indicate high altitude Tibetan, Ethiopian and Peruvian populations have adaptive genetic changes from lowlanders that increase hemoglobin concentration and TCP production.

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#1031 Oct 8, 2012
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Sorry Bub, you can't rationalize crazy.
For giggle's sake I'll go along with your fairy tale that the world was flooded and only Noah's family survived. You will now contend that his descendants were able to populate 5 of the 7 continents and did not evolve into all of the races and statures that have existed over the last 6,000 years.
You did not address the "crazy" or the non scientific process of how a Dolphin is confirmed in evolution to be a 4 legged animal that begins hunting for food in water, and after a period of time, their genetic makeup changes them into a another type of animal, then later a dolphin.

There is no actual evidence to say that a made up creature that has zero evidence of ever existing, can be used to have evolved into another animal because they hunted in water for sooooo long (Complete speculation in the transaction) that eventually their genetic makeup changed..with no evidence except a final product of a Dolphin is there.

YET creation by a creator is not even considered... really?

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#1032 Oct 8, 2012
Pastor Matt E wrote:
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You did not address the "crazy" or the non scientific process of how a Dolphin is confirmed in evolution to be a 4 legged animal that begins hunting for food in water, and after a period of time, their genetic makeup changes them into a another type of animal, then later a dolphin.
There is no actual evidence to say that a made up creature that has zero evidence of ever existing, can be used to have evolved into another animal because they hunted in water for sooooo long (Complete speculation in the transaction) that eventually their genetic makeup changed..with no evidence except a final product of a Dolphin is there.
YET creation by a creator is not even considered... really?
Nope. Not even considered. Really. The problem with the Creationist faith in mythology (that has ZERO supportive evidence and warehouses of evidence against) is that their "logic" allows that because fossils are formed from far less than one in a billion carcasses that transitional forms should be as common as beer tabs and gum wrappers.
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#1035 Oct 9, 2012
Boot Jacks GAY DADDY wrote:
Washington (CNN)– The fastest growing "religious" group in America is made up of people with no religion at all, according to a Pew survey showing that one in five Americans is not affiliated with any religion.
The number of these Americans has grown by 25% just in the past five years, according to a survey released Thursday by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.
The survey found that the ranks of the unaffiliated are growing even faster among younger Americans.
Thirty-three million Americans now have no religious affiliation, with 13 million in that group identifying as either atheist or agnostic, according to the new survey.
Pew found that those who are religiously unaffiliated are strikingly less religious than the public at large. They attend church infrequently, if at all, are largely not seeking out religion and say that the lack of it in their lives is of little importance.
And yet Pew found that 68% of the religiously unaffiliated say they believe in God, while 37% describe themselves as “spiritual” but not “religious.” One in five said that they even pray every day.
John Green, a senior research adviser at Pew, breaks the religiously unaffiliated into three groups. First, he says, are those who were raised totally outside organized religion.
Second are groups of people who were unhappy with their religions and left.
The third group, Green says, comprises Americans who were never really engaged with religion in the first place, even though they were raised in religious households.
“In the past, we would describe those people as nominally affiliated. They might say,'I am Catholic; I am a Baptist,' but they never went" to services, Green says of this last group.“Now, they feel a lot more comfortable just saying,‘You know, I am really nothing.’”
According to the poll, 88% of religiously unaffiliated people are not looking for religion.
“There is much less of a stigma attached" to not being religious, Green said.“Part of what is fueling this growth is that a lot of people who were never very religious now feel comfortable saying that they don't have an affiliation.”
Demographically, the growth among the religiously unaffiliated has been most notable among people who are 18 to 29 years old.
According to the poll, 34% of “younger millennials”- those born between 1990 and 1994 - are religiously unaffiliated. Among “older millennials,” born between 1981 and 1989, 30% are religiously unaffiliated: 4 percentage points higher than in 2007.
Poll respondents 18-29 were also more likely to identify as atheist or agnostic. Nearly 42% religious unaffiliated people from that age group identified as atheist or agnostic, a number far greater than the number who identified as Christian (18%) of Catholic (18%).
Green says that these numbers are “part of a broader change in American society.”
“The unaffiliated have become a more distinct group,” he said.
Pew's numbers were met with elation among atheist and secular leaders. Jesse Galef, communications director for the Secular Student Alliance, said that the growth of the unaffiliated should translate into greater political representation for secular interests.
“We would love to see the political leaders lead on this issue, but we are perfectly content with them following these demographic trends, following the voters,” Galef said.
“As more of the voters are unaffiliated and identifying as atheist and agnostics, I think the politicians will follow that for votes.
“We won’t be dismissed or ignored anymore,” Galef said.
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#1036 Oct 9, 2012
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#1037 Oct 9, 2012
Boot Jacks GAY DADDY wrote:
Washington (CNN)– The fastest growing "religious" group in America is made up of people with no religion at all, according to a Pew survey showing that one in five Americans is not affiliated with any religion.
The number of these Americans has grown by 25% just in the past five years, according to a survey released Thursday by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.
The survey found that the ranks of the unaffiliated are growing even faster among younger Americans.
Thirty-three million Americans now have no religious affiliation, with 13 million in that group identifying as either atheist or agnostic, according to the new survey.
Pew found that those who are religiously unaffiliated are strikingly less religious than the public at large. They attend church infrequently, if at all, are largely not seeking out religion and say that the lack of it in their lives is of little importance.
And yet Pew found that 68% of the religiously unaffiliated say they believe in God, while 37% describe themselves as “spiritual” but not “religious.” One in five said that they even pray every day.
John Green, a senior research adviser at Pew, breaks the religiously unaffiliated into three groups. First, he says, are those who were raised totally outside organized religion.
Second are groups of people who were unhappy with their religions and left.
The third group, Green says, comprises Americans who were never really engaged with religion in the first place, even though they were raised in religious households.
“In the past, we would describe those people as nominally affiliated. They might say,'I am Catholic; I am a Baptist,' but they never went" to services, Green says of this last group.“Now, they feel a lot more comfortable just saying,‘You know, I am really nothing.’”
According to the poll, 88% of religiously unaffiliated people are not looking for religion.
“There is much less of a stigma attached" to not being religious, Green said.“Part of what is fueling this growth is that a lot of people who were never very religious now feel comfortable saying that they don't have an affiliation.”
Demographically, the growth among the religiously unaffiliated has been most notable among people who are 18 to 29 years old.
According to the poll, 34% of “younger millennials”- those born between 1990 and 1994 - are religiously unaffiliated. Among “older millennials,” born between 1981 and 1989, 30% are religiously unaffiliated: 4 percentage points higher than in 2007.
Poll respondents 18-29 were also more likely to identify as atheist or agnostic. Nearly 42% religious unaffiliated people from that age group identified as atheist or agnostic, a number far greater than the number who identified as Christian (18%) of Catholic (18%).
Green says that these numbers are “part of a broader change in American society.”
“The unaffiliated have become a more distinct group,” he said.
Pew's numbers were met with elation among atheist and secular leaders. Jesse Galef, communications director for the Secular Student Alliance, said that the growth of the unaffiliated should translate into greater political representation for secular interests.
“We would love to see the political leaders lead on this issue, but we are perfectly content with them following these demographic trends, following the voters,” Galef said.
“As more of the voters are unaffiliated and identifying as atheist and agnostics, I think the politicians will follow that for votes.
“We won’t be dismissed or ignored anymore,” Galef said.
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