MSU Michele Sarrett how has she staye...
Social Sec with-holdings

Minneapolis, MN

#189 Jan 29, 2012
Interesting wrote:
I had no clue of this. If you could provide further information on this it would greatly appreciated. E-mail the board.
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Also, someone did not make social security employee or employer contributions that were with-held for an entire year. Wonder what MSU did with that money for that year while they had it?
Individual employees became aware when annual statements were mailed from SSA that earnings for that year were '0' from MSU. That was 4 or 5 years ago. SSA was alerted by several employees. There should be an investigation from that event that the SSA has on file. When SSA inquired to MSU, MSU employees were told they should have handled this interally and not involved 'outsiders'. The funds were put into accounts within a few weeks and amended statements mailed from SSA to employees home addresses.
Interesting

Beckley, WV

#190 Jan 29, 2012
Social Sec with-holdings wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, someone did not make social security employee or employer contributions that were with-held for an entire year. Wonder what MSU did with that money for that year while they had it?
Individual employees became aware when annual statements were mailed from SSA that earnings for that year were '0' from MSU. That was 4 or 5 years ago. SSA was alerted by several employees. There should be an investigation from that event that the SSA has on file. When SSA inquired to MSU, MSU employees were told they should have handled this interally and not involved 'outsiders'. The funds were put into accounts within a few weeks and amended statements mailed from SSA to employees home addresses.
Interesting. Especially the comment of involving "outsiders". That would mean those employees affected would be paying back taxes.
Sawyer

Oak Hill, WV

#191 Jan 29, 2012
Ridgerunner wrote:
<quoted text>Would you agree the school receives federal funding? That in its self binds the school to federal regulations pertaining to federal funds. Being under a "private" status does not exempt the school from adhering to such federal laws. I do understand your defense of state school and private schools.

The percentage of federal dollars is greater than money acquired from other sources. This has been documented by MSU. I would like to know where the money came from for those planes. I do understand this question may not be answered. LOL! But I have a good idea.:)

I posed the questions? " From what has been stated so far MSU appears to be a family run business hiding under the mask of education. What positions do these family members hold? Where they existing positions or created positions for these family members? In the event of existing, was someone bumped out to make room for the family member?"

The agreements do not look good for MSU to "do business" with such organizations. It makes MSU appear that the school is more about "money" and not about education. Many of the degrees I found at Penn Foster for example, would be better represented as a "technical" school and not "college" or "university". While this may be a play on words, those words have a different weight of value and understanding to those in the public. Who wants to pay college prices for a "technical skill" as opposed to the perceived "education" colleges serve. That is a lot of money for someone to pay for a course in dog grooming as opposed to someone studying to become a scientist. Frankly, education in general is pretty screwed up. But that is just my opinion.

I do question the financial decisions of MSU and what is taking place currently. The person holding the checkbook is not to be fully held accountable for such decisions but does have an obligation to know the difference between what is legal and what is not. I will not pass judgement but that person does sit in a hot seat right now. Not implying with my next statement to the individual in the topic of this thread, but accountants have been found guilty of misappropriation of funds that boards have approved the purchases. Again, not placing blame but being realistic here. It is not a good situation for someone to be in.
The money for the planes came from within the budget, bought with earnings which I'm sure came from tuition dollars which a high percentage of those are federal loans for the students. Is that what you mean? It's federal money to the student...not the school from what I understand if I'm wrong about that I'll gladly listen.

As far as the University being a family run business I think it is like a lot of places in the area. Polk had a lot of family and friends that were hired. I think many of them did a good job and were more than qualified...a few i would guess were there solely because of him but i cant pass judgement on someone else's work I never saw.

As far as the checkbook goes, I think you'd have to determine who really holds the checkbook really. I don't think anything scandalous happened and if it did it would be out of her control or knowledge. People can judge but they don't know the inner dynamics of the school.

I also agree with you about education in general.
Sawyer

Oak Hill, WV

#192 Jan 29, 2012
Ridgerunner wrote:
<quoted text>Would you agree the school receives federal funding? That in its self binds the school to federal regulations pertaining to federal funds. Being under a "private" status does not exempt the school from adhering to such federal laws. I do understand your defense of state school and private schools.

The percentage of federal dollars is greater than money acquired from other sources. This has been documented by MSU. I would like to know where the money came from for those planes. I do understand this question may not be answered. LOL! But I have a good idea.:)

I posed the questions? " From what has been stated so far MSU appears to be a family run business hiding under the mask of education. What positions do these family members hold? Where they existing positions or created positions for these family members? In the event of existing, was someone bumped out to make room for the family member?"

The agreements do not look good for MSU to "do business" with such organizations. It makes MSU appear that the school is more about "money" and not about education. Many of the degrees I found at Penn Foster for example, would be better represented as a "technical" school and not "college" or "university". While this may be a play on words, those words have a different weight of value and understanding to those in the public. Who wants to pay college prices for a "technical skill" as opposed to the perceived "education" colleges serve. That is a lot of money for someone to pay for a course in dog grooming as opposed to someone studying to become a scientist. Frankly, education in general is pretty screwed up. But that is just my opinion.

I do question the financial decisions of MSU and what is taking place currently. The person holding the checkbook is not to be fully held accountable for such decisions but does have an obligation to know the difference between what is legal and what is not. I will not pass judgement but that person does sit in a hot seat right now. Not implying with my next statement to the individual in the topic of this thread, but accountants have been found guilty of misappropriation of funds that boards have approved the purchases. Again, not placing blame but being realistic here. It is not a good situation for someone to be in.
As for the positions, some were created and necessary I think...others maybe not so much. No family members hold any real position of power for it to be a scandal. One has title but no power.
Sawyer

Oak Hill, WV

#193 Jan 29, 2012
Ridgerunner wrote:
<quoted text>Would you agree the school receives federal funding? That in its self binds the school to federal regulations pertaining to federal funds. Being under a "private" status does not exempt the school from adhering to such federal laws. I do understand your defense of state school and private schools.

The percentage of federal dollars is greater than money acquired from other sources. This has been documented by MSU. I would like to know where the money came from for those planes. I do understand this question may not be answered. LOL! But I have a good idea.:)

I posed the questions? " From what has been stated so far MSU appears to be a family run business hiding under the mask of education. What positions do these family members hold? Where they existing positions or created positions for these family members? In the event of existing, was someone bumped out to make room for the family member?"

The agreements do not look good for MSU to "do business" with such organizations. It makes MSU appear that the school is more about "money" and not about education. Many of the degrees I found at Penn Foster for example, would be better represented as a "technical" school and not "college" or "university". While this may be a play on words, those words have a different weight of value and understanding to those in the public. Who wants to pay college prices for a "technical skill" as opposed to the perceived "education" colleges serve. That is a lot of money for someone to pay for a course in dog grooming as opposed to someone studying to become a scientist. Frankly, education in general is pretty screwed up. But that is just my opinion.

I do question the financial decisions of MSU and what is taking place currently. The person holding the checkbook is not to be fully held accountable for such decisions but does have an obligation to know the difference between what is legal and what is not. I will not pass judgement but that person does sit in a hot seat right now. Not implying with my next statement to the individual in the topic of this thread, but accountants have been found guilty of misappropriation of funds that boards have approved the purchases. Again, not placing blame but being realistic here. It is not a good situation for someone to be in.
With Michele, legal and IRS compliance were big issues. She wouldn't let anybody get by with doing something wrong.
Sawyer

Oak Hill, WV

#194 Jan 29, 2012
Social Sec with-holdings wrote:
<quoted text>Also, someone did not make social security employee or employer contributions that were with-held for an entire year. Wonder what MSU did with that money for that year while they had it?
Individual employees became aware when annual statements were mailed from SSA that earnings for that year were '0' from MSU. That was 4 or 5 years ago. SSA was alerted by several employees. There should be an investigation from that event that the SSA has on file. When SSA inquired to MSU, MSU employees were told they should have handled this interally and not involved 'outsiders'. The funds were put into accounts within a few weeks and amended statements mailed from SSA to employees home addresses.
Deposits for Social Security are made at the same time as Federal tax withheld. The only thing that didn't happen is that whoever did payroll that year didn't report correctly to the Social Security Administration what had been paid and for whom or the Social Security office made a mistake. Either way Michele doesn't do that part herself. If I work with someone and they make a mistake I check with them first...not go to their supervisor or an outsider. I think that was the point.
Harshly deal with them

Beckley, WV

#195 Jan 30, 2012
I believe all are guilty who stand back and do nothing when the public trust is not guarded. Educators, doctors, attorneys, CPA's and others do hold a higher responsibility to guard the public. Anyone who stands back and watches money being spent in reckless ways should be harshly dealt with and shamed in the public.

This is a breach of moral, ethic, and civic responsibility.

To all of those who stood by such as Sarrett, Artis, Alexander, Siloski, Sharp, Garland, Polk, White, Owston, Mays, and many others I pity you and wonder how you will go forward in the future in shame.

Sharp and others have voiced how disgusted they are with Polk and that he should have been gone. However these words ring hollow as it is now convenient to speak against Polk. However, Artis and the others did stand back and did nothing when it would have made a difference as their pockets were being lined with the dirty money of Polk and the Board.

Shame to everyone of you. When we see you in public we pray for you and in turn pity your deplorable and unexcused behavior.
Cassidy

Dublin, VA

#196 Jan 30, 2012
Sawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
With Michele, legal and IRS compliance were big issues. She wouldn't let anybody get by with doing something wrong.
Well, that may SEEM to be the case, but you can't guarantee anything. Who knows what she could have been hiding from the people she worked most closely with. Are you really so stupid that you don't know people are capable of deceiving those closest to them? How many people defended Ted Haggard to the death and were in denial when the truth came out about his sordid lifestyle? Get a grip already. Or simply just grow up!

KnightMoves
Level 6

Since: Sep 11

Traveling Onward

#197 Jan 30, 2012
Who cares?
Sawyer

United States

#198 Jan 30, 2012
Cassidy wrote:
<quoted text>Well, that may SEEM to be the case, but you can't guarantee anything. Who knows what she could have been hiding from the people she worked most closely with. Are you really so stupid that you don't know people are capable of deceiving those closest to them? How many people defended Ted Haggard to the death and were in denial when the truth came out about his sordid lifestyle? Get a grip already. Or simply just grow up!
So then she must be guilty of charges that don't exist because YOU think so. Why don't you grow up?
Sawyer foooolish girl LOL

Beckley, WV

#199 Jan 30, 2012
Sawyer you are so stupid your postings do not warrant a response. Drink the MSU punch and we will see where you end up.

foooooolish you are. LOL
Sawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
So then she must be guilty of charges that don't exist because YOU think so. Why don't you grow up?
Lack of accountability

Clinton, MD

#200 Jan 30, 2012
Polk was president. He was finally held responsible for the mess he helped create. Turns out firing faculty and staff didn't clean up his mess no matter how hard he tried to blame everyone but himself.

The members of the Mountain State University Foundation include Cindy Alexander, Jim Silosky, Roz Artis and Michele Sarrett. Sarrett is also the MSU Chief Financial Officer and MSU Foundation Treasurer. So, how can she be distanced from the financial end of the MSU problems if she is both on the Board and the School's CFO? If she isn't responsible and has been duped by the Boards and Senior administrators at the school, she should be fired immediately for NOT KNOWING and being willfully ignorant. Getting kind of hard to protect that senior management from the VPs on down because they can be held responsible for what THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, and should have pursued through their own due diligence.

Michele makes over 6 figures for her salary. The average support staff at MSU makes about $10. This is like firing the pilot for the abuse Polk is accused of by taking the private plane to see his mommy!! Bad things happen when `good' people watch, know, and do nothing. Lots of guilt to go around at MSU. Only at MSU, the more you make, the less you are hold accountable. Why is Kelli Mays still around? She was the VP of Accreditation!
Laughable

United States

#201 Jan 30, 2012
Lack of accountability wrote:
Polk was president. He was finally held responsible for the mess he helped create. Turns out firing faculty and staff didn't clean up his mess no matter how hard he tried to blame everyone but himself.
The members of the Mountain State University Foundation include Cindy Alexander, Jim Silosky, Roz Artis and Michele Sarrett. Sarrett is also the MSU Chief Financial Officer and MSU Foundation Treasurer. So, how can she be distanced from the financial end of the MSU problems if she is both on the Board and the School's CFO? If she isn't responsible and has been duped by the Boards and Senior administrators at the school, she should be fired immediately for NOT KNOWING and being willfully ignorant. Getting kind of hard to protect that senior management from the VPs on down because they can be held responsible for what THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, and should have pursued through their own due diligence.
Michele makes over 6 figures for her salary. The average support staff at MSU makes about $10. This is like firing the pilot for the abuse Polk is accused of by taking the private plane to see his mommy!! Bad things happen when `good' people watch, know, and do nothing. Lots of guilt to go around at MSU. Only at MSU, the more you make, the less you are hold accountable. Why is Kelli Mays still around? She was the VP of Accreditation!
Excellent post! Thank you! Same point I have been trying to make before I started banging my head against the wall reading Sawyers posts of denial.
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Sawyer

Oak Hill, WV

#203 Jan 30, 2012
Lack of accountability wrote:
Polk was president. He was finally held responsible for the mess he helped create. Turns out firing faculty and staff didn't clean up his mess no matter how hard he tried to blame everyone but himself.

The members of the Mountain State University Foundation include Cindy Alexander, Jim Silosky, Roz Artis and Michele Sarrett. Sarrett is also the MSU Chief Financial Officer and MSU Foundation Treasurer. So, how can she be distanced from the financial end of the MSU problems if she is both on the Board and the School's CFO? If she isn't responsible and has been duped by the Boards and Senior administrators at the school, she should be fired immediately for NOT KNOWING and being willfully ignorant. Getting kind of hard to protect that senior management from the VPs on down because they can be held responsible for what THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, and should have pursued through their own due diligence.

Michele makes over 6 figures for her salary. The average support staff at MSU makes about $10. This is like firing the pilot for the abuse Polk is accused of by taking the private plane to see his mommy!! Bad things happen when `good' people watch, know, and do nothing. Lots of guilt to go around at MSU. Only at MSU, the more you make, the less you are hold accountable. Why is Kelli Mays still around? She was the VP of Accreditation!
The Foundation Board is separate altogether it was a small entity set up for gifts for scholarships only. It has nothing to do with main operations of the school.
Sawyer

Oak Hill, WV

#204 Jan 30, 2012
Lack of accountability wrote:
Polk was president. He was finally held responsible for the mess he helped create. Turns out firing faculty and staff didn't clean up his mess no matter how hard he tried to blame everyone but himself.

The members of the Mountain State University Foundation include Cindy Alexander, Jim Silosky, Roz Artis and Michele Sarrett. Sarrett is also the MSU Chief Financial Officer and MSU Foundation Treasurer. So, how can she be distanced from the financial end of the MSU problems if she is both on the Board and the School's CFO? If she isn't responsible and has been duped by the Boards and Senior administrators at the school, she should be fired immediately for NOT KNOWING and being willfully ignorant. Getting kind of hard to protect that senior management from the VPs on down because they can be held responsible for what THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, and should have pursued through their own due diligence.

Michele makes over 6 figures for her salary. The average support staff at MSU makes about $10. This is like firing the pilot for the abuse Polk is accused of by taking the private plane to see his mommy!! Bad things happen when `good' people watch, know, and do nothing. Lots of guilt to go around at MSU. Only at MSU, the more you make, the less you are hold accountable. Why is Kelli Mays still around? She was the VP of Accreditation!
So she's not on the board...
Sawyer

Oak Hill, WV

#205 Jan 30, 2012
Sawyer foooolish girl LOL wrote:
<quoted text>Sawyer you are so stupid your postings do not warrant a response. Drink the MSU punch and we will see where you end up.

foooooolish you are. LOL
Being called a fool by a fool...is that really an insult?
Sawyer foooolish girl LOL

Beckley, WV

#206 Jan 30, 2012
You amuse me. Thank you for the laugh.
Sawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
Being called a fool by a fool...is that really an insult?
Lack of accountability

Clinton, MD

#207 Jan 31, 2012
Foundation is separate and that is where the salaries and benefits for these folks was listed until fall 2010. As well as a notation that more money was spent ($100,000) on gasoline for the plane than on `scholarship.' And about half of that amount to scholarships of which they counted any employees for MSU in that group.

Sawyer, tell us where we can find this list of recipients of MSU Foundation Scholarships so we can verify what you WANT people to think. By the way, since the accrediting mess began in Fall 2010, that part of Foundation site has been taken down. If there is nothing to hide, put it out there. But the `Sawyers' of the world are not offering facts. Just because you like someone personally, does not mean they are not capable of doing shady things.

People loved Ken Lay of Enron. Said he was great person, with a solid ethical and moral background. Well, two months before the Enron scandal and loss of money was obvious to Ken Lay he gave a employee Xmas party. At the XMAS party he looked his people straight in the eye and told them to buy more Enron stock, knowing it would soon be worthless. And,he was selling his own stock while it was still worth something.

What makes you think the Boards and senior administrators are any more ethical and moral than a Ken Lay. Oh, lots of people trusted and vouched for Bernie Madoff,too. MSU has become a sort of Ponzie scheme feeding money at the bottom from student loans to the top with lavish salaries and benefits beyond the viability of the institution. Sawyer, ask Michele to tell us just what kind of golden parachute Polk took back to North Carolina.
Vanessa

Dublin, VA

#208 Jan 31, 2012
Sawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
Being called a fool by a fool...is that really an insult?
Oh, come off of it, Michele. It's time for you to get back to work. Quit pretending you're someone else.
Sawyer

Boynton Beach, FL

#209 Jan 31, 2012
Lack of accountability wrote:
Foundation is separate and that is where the salaries and benefits for these folks was listed until fall 2010. As well as a notation that more money was spent ($100,000) on gasoline for the plane than on `scholarship.' And about half of that amount to scholarships of which they counted any employees for MSU in that group.

Sawyer, tell us where we can find this list of recipients of MSU Foundation Scholarships so we can verify what you WANT people to think. By the way, since the accrediting mess began in Fall 2010, that part of Foundation site has been taken down. If there is nothing to hide, put it out there. But the `Sawyers' of the world are not offering facts. Just because you like someone personally, does not mean they are not capable of doing shady things.

People loved Ken Lay of Enron. Said he was great person, with a solid ethical and moral background. Well, two months before the Enron scandal and loss of money was obvious to Ken Lay he gave a employee Xmas party. At the XMAS party he looked his people straight in the eye and told them to buy more Enron stock, knowing it would soon be worthless. And,he was selling his own stock while it was still worth something.

What makes you think the Boards and senior administrators are any more ethical and moral than a Ken Lay. Oh, lots of people trusted and vouched for Bernie Madoff,too. MSU has become a sort of Ponzie scheme feeding money at the bottom from student loans to the top with lavish salaries and benefits beyond the viability of the institution. Sawyer, ask Michele to tell us just what kind of golden parachute Polk took back to North Carolina.
No salaries or benefits for employees came from the foundation

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