wvcoalminer

Santa Clara, CA

#163 Feb 15, 2010
The problem with Beckley police, the sheriffs, and maybe the state police (I am not sure about them), but the city and sheriffs have "quotas" they have to meet. They have to write so many tickets every month. That is bullsh*t. It shouldn't be about ticket's at all. And some cops wouldn't know law enforcement if it bit them in the *ss. Where is Andy Griffith and Barney Fife when you need them? They would do a better job !
informed citizen

Mount Hope, WV

#164 Feb 16, 2010
No one was murdered by the deputies or the Beckley Police dept. I wasn't sure who the POS poster was referring to...I thought maybe it was the guy who died in custody because he had stupidly swallowed the drugs he was carrying when he was arrested by BPD.

The deputies fired at a guy when an assault rifle (wasn't it? was pointed at them. Point a loaded weapon at law enforcement and chances are very good that you're going to get shot.

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Since: Jan 09

Daniels

#165 Feb 16, 2010
actually, they tippy toed through a neighborhood at 3am, came up behind mr webb to within 15-20 feet, shouted, and as he turned around, they blew his head almost off.
Instead of driving to the scene with blue lights and siriens to PREVENT, and altercation, thye were pretending to play war games through a residential neighborhood with live amo.
but hey, he was a butthole to some of the neighbors, so It was justified.
Pitiful

Belden, MS

#166 Feb 16, 2010
Yeah, standard protocol when dealing with a man firing an assault rifle wildly would definitely be to make as much noise as possible, use lots of lights so the person knows to hide and to take off gun belts so the person doesn't feel threatened. Also, only shoot a person After they shoot you.
informed citizen

Mount Hope, WV

#167 Feb 16, 2010
Well, you have the topix version of events, the lawsuit version & a news account of that happened. The news version says the officers identified themselves, told him at least once to put down the AK-47 and he turned around, shouldered the AK-47 & pointed it at them. That is not a good stance to take...
Lol

Beckley, WV

#168 Feb 16, 2010
I would have done the exact same thing to someone pointing a rifle at me! Who wouldn't? You people are lying if you say you wouldn't shoot someone before they could shoot you. They have to do what they can to stay alive and if they means taking out some moron firing a rifle in his underwear in the middle of his yard then so be it. Shouldn't have been firing a gun in the middle of the night for no reason. Let's use some common sense.
yourstupid

United States

#169 Feb 16, 2010
wvcoalminer wrote:
The problem with Beckley police, the sheriffs, and maybe the state police (I am not sure about them), but the city and sheriffs have "quotas" they have to meet. They have to write so many tickets every month. That is bullsh*t. It shouldn't be about ticket's at all. And some cops wouldn't know law enforcement if it bit them in the *ss. Where is Andy Griffith and Barney Fife when you need them? They would do a better job !
how do you know the sheriff's dept. has quotas? do you work there? im sure you dont because you are igorant. i do know that beckley pd does infact have quotas they have to meet each month but the sheriff's office does not. now it will have to been seen if steve tanner infact puts a quotas in place, but for now there is no such thing at the rcsd.
Jacque

Panama City, FL

#170 Feb 16, 2010
Ok I am hearing a lot about this Webb guy again. I think he had a whole thread on him at one point but I do not remember anyone saying. Is this one of the Webbs from Webb's Mountian out at Eccles or Surveyor somewhere in that area. Had a young sister NW long blond hair? Really would like to know if it is him.
stupid

Beckley, WV

#171 Feb 16, 2010
mpkingfish wrote:
actually, they tippy toed through a neighborhood at 3am, came up behind mr webb to within 15-20 feet, shouted, and as he turned around, they blew his head almost off.
Instead of driving to the scene with blue lights and siriens to PREVENT, and altercation, thye were pretending to play war games through a residential neighborhood with live amo.
but hey, he was a butthole to some of the neighbors, so It was justified.
Wouldn't you tippy toe up on someone with an assault rifle stupid? I don't see you lining up to do the job. The man was shooting off in the middle of a neighborhood. He was armed and dangerous. YOU CAN'T DO THAT!

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Since: Jan 09

Daniels

#172 Feb 16, 2010
enough, believe it or not, people shoot fire arms in celebration often. I do not. and Jaque is right, this has been discussed and the neigbors who hated webb are happy the police killed him,but the fact remains that he was shooting in celebration of a july birthday a day before the 4th of july when everybody is fireing somthing into the aitr, be it guns rockets or sparkelers.
It should have been handled as a disturbing the peace, because that was all that was happening. He was not threatening to even shoot a dog, just firing in the air, and no matter what support you give the deputies, if they would have can to the house with the lights and sirien, noone would be dead. YES, when he was startled and turned around, he had a gun, at that point, there isnt but 1 choice. but there wer a few mistakes that should, could have avoided death.
know them all

United States

#173 Feb 16, 2010
mpkingfish wrote:
enough, believe it or not, people shoot fire arms in celebration often. I do not. and Jaque is right, this has been discussed and the neigbors who hated webb are happy the police killed him,but the fact remains that he was shooting in celebration of a july birthday a day before the 4th of july when everybody is fireing somthing into the aitr, be it guns rockets or sparkelers.
It should have been handled as a disturbing the peace, because that was all that was happening. He was not threatening to even shoot a dog, just firing in the air, and no matter what support you give the deputies, if they would have can to the house with the lights and sirien, noone would be dead. YES, when he was startled and turned around, he had a gun, at that point, there isnt but 1 choice. but there wer a few mistakes that should, could have avoided death.
I am left wondering if you were there, know the family or the officers to say that "he just turned around". Do you know any other facts about that night or about the men involved as a whole?

This night is like the Chuck Smith ordeal, better left where it is, in the past and alone.
john

Beckley, WV

#174 Feb 16, 2010
informed citizen wrote:
No one was murdered by the deputies or the Beckley Police dept. I wasn't sure who the POS poster was referring to...I thought maybe it was the guy who died in custody because he had stupidly swallowed the drugs he was carrying when he was arrested by BPD.
The deputies fired at a guy when an assault rifle (wasn't it? was pointed at them. Point a loaded weapon at law enforcement and chances are very good that you're going to get shot.
As for the the guy that swalloed the drugs i know him personally they say he died from that so the police say. But some of the doctors say otherwise and sense you are the informed citizen you should no the family hired a lawyer he was suppose to be cremated but he wasnt the lawyers wanted him to be buried I was there and i no damn well you wasnt so stay in your place about that

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Since: Jan 09

Daniels

#175 Feb 16, 2010
this is nothing like the smith incident.??
and look up the archives of the shooting in I think the gazzette but not sure, I dont remember.
there was supposed to be the wrongful death cival trial set in november but I never read any more, so unless it was settled, which it probably will be, then it may be continued,. which most law suits against the establishment usually get continued infinity.
just curious, what similarities do you feel there are with the smith case other than a death?
Jim-Bob the racist lawyer

United States

#176 Feb 16, 2010
yourstupid wrote:
<quoted text>how do you know the sheriff's dept. has quotas? do you work there? im sure you dont because you are igorant. i do know that beckley pd does infact have quotas they have to meet each month but the sheriff's office does not. now it will have to been seen if steve tanner infact puts a quotas in place, but for now there is no such thing at the rcsd.
No, YOU are ignorant (not ignorat). They don't call them quotas, but if they come into the last week of the month and haven't written "enough" tickets, they get their asses chewed and you'll see them out there pulling people over for anything they can. It's a business. The revenue from tickets helps to pay the department expenses so they HAVE TO write a certain amount. Maybe you should quit writing about things you don't understand! And YES, my uncle works for the Sheriff's Dept.
RMN

Lyburn, WV

#177 Feb 16, 2010
Jim-Bob the racist lawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
No, YOU are ignorant (not ignorat). They don't call them quotas, but if they come into the last week of the month and haven't written "enough" tickets, they get their asses chewed and you'll see them out there pulling people over for anything they can. It's a business. The revenue from tickets helps to pay the department expenses so they HAVE TO write a certain amount. Maybe you should quit writing about things you don't understand! And YES, my uncle works for the Sheriff's Dept.
No they don't.
RMN

Lyburn, WV

#178 Feb 16, 2010
know them all wrote:
<quoted text> I am left wondering if you were there, know the family or the officers to say that "he just turned around". Do you know any other facts about that night or about the men involved as a whole?
This night is like the Chuck Smith ordeal, better left where it is, in the past and alone.
If he were there, he would know the truth.(He was'nt there)
know them all

United States

#179 Feb 16, 2010
mpkingfish wrote:
this is nothing like the smith incident.??
and look up the archives of the shooting in I think the gazzette but not sure, I dont remember.
there was supposed to be the wrongful death cival trial set in november but I never read any more, so unless it was settled, which it probably will be, then it may be continued,. which most law suits against the establishment usually get continued infinity.
just curious, what similarities do you feel there are with the smith case other than a death?
I am not saying the cases are similar, i am saying that it is like the incident in that is best left alone, there is no winner in rehashing it over and over again.

As far as the civil suit goes, the rcsd refuses to settle. It is all still in litigation.
know them all

United States

#180 Feb 16, 2010
Jim-Bob the racist lawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
No, YOU are ignorant (not ignorat). They don't call them quotas, but if they come into the last week of the month and haven't written "enough" tickets, they get their asses chewed and you'll see them out there pulling people over for anything they can. It's a business. The revenue from tickets helps to pay the department expenses so they HAVE TO write a certain amount. Maybe you should quit writing about things you don't understand! And YES, my uncle works for the Sheriff's Dept.
Good then he knows that they do not have a quota. They may like tickets to be written but there is NO quota.
Jacque

Panama City, FL

#181 Feb 16, 2010
Ok not to keep this thing going but I will try again this way this time :-) Is this one of the Webbs from Webb's Mountian out at Eccles or Surveyor somewhere in that area. Had a young sister NW long blond hair? Really would like to know if it is him.

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Since: Jan 09

Daniels

#182 Feb 16, 2010
hasnt anyone ever wondered why large cities police departments have Internal Affairs?
Are you supporters nieve enough to think that we have the only law enforcment departments in the world, that have no wrong doing. If that is the case in our area, they should do how to books and movies for ever law division training facility up to quantico for FBI training, because this is the first place ever to be perfect...lol
Listen, this case has to be looked into, like every time lethal force is used, to study what could have been done differently to get an arrest instead of fatherless children and a huge law suit that will eventuallty be paid.
and as a community, we should be intitled to ALL of the information to make damn sure that OUR tax dollars isnt going to end up with one of US catching a stray bullet in the head.

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