Walmart Workers Striking Turkey Day

[angel just me]

ME TOO about 6 weeks

[US FED]

Made in China 2 wrote:

West Virginia is not a Right to Work State! They have the right to organize and strike!

There are 4227 Walmart/Sam's clubs in the US, there are 3210 stores outside the US. Walmart will have no problem or second thoughts on closing down a store, and don't kid yourself into thinking that all stores/employees will push the issue.

[US FED]

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/05/02/targe...

If your going to complain about Walmart, be sure you do likewise for Target. Wages and benefits match out for both companies.
Therefore, if you don't shop at Walmart, I hope your not shopping at Target either.

[scooter]

never happen

[Anti Walmart]

US FED wrote:

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2 011/05/02/target-vs-walmart-wh ich-one-is-a-better-place-to-w ork/
If your going to complain about Walmart, be sure you do likewise for Target. Wages and benefits match out for both companies.
Therefore, if you don't shop at Walmart, I hope your not shopping at Target either.

Ten-4, Everyone reads you loud and clear!
Are you the CEO for Walmart or just Anti Union?
You will have to forgive people if they are tired of having to seek Government assistance that walmart highly encourages, while having to work for one of the most profitable companies in the world who lies about caring for their employee's.
People need to Unionize who work for Target and other company's who do business like Walmart also.
Please find the time to watch a documentary called "Walmart, the High Cost of Low Prices".
It may just change your mind on how wonderful walmart is now at days.

[informed citizen]

US FED wrote:

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2 011/05/02/target-vs-walmart-wh ich-one-is-a-better-place-to-w ork/
If your going to complain about Walmart, be sure you do likewise for Target. Wages and benefits match out for both companies.
Therefore, if you don't shop at Walmart, I hope your not shopping at Target either.

Thank you. I also noted this paragraph:

"There's one other discrepancy to note. More than half of Target employees, 51 percent, report that they are overachievers. Walmart, on the other hand, had only 44 percent declare themselves highly motivated, dedicated workers."

So maybe they get paid what they're worth?:-)

Also on a video of the strikers -- my goodness there were a bunch of extremely overweight "workers". I also noted a lot of older complainers but where would these older folks get a job?

Jobs at Kroger (and I'd bet other grocery stores) compare wage-wise with Walmart

"Kroger Hourly Wage/Pay
•Cashier Hourly Wage:$7.39/hr on average (From $5 ~$10 per hour)
•Co-Manager Annual Salaries:$41,750 on average (From $33k ~$53k)
•Grocery Clerk Hourly Wage:$9.20/hr on average (From $7 ~$13 per hour)

I'm trying to figure out how many people were put out of work in this area by the arrival of Walmart? Any idea? Mom and Pop stores are usually the MOST expensive around & the few mom and pops I know they are still in business buy their merchandise from Walmart and Sams Club.

If anything, I can see that this area has increased in job opportunities since Walmart arrived. Lowes, in my opinion, killed more lumber and hardware stores than Walmart killed Mom and Pop shops. Walmart is an excellent place for young workers to work their way up and older retirees to supplement their income.

I'm not going out for Black Friday but I'd love to see strikers TRY to hold back the wild crowd trying to get hold of those "bargains". LOL...

[Paladinhgwt]

Anti Walmart wrote:

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Ten-4, Everyone reads you loud and clear!
Are you the CEO for Walmart or just Anti Union?
You will have to forgive people if they are tired of having to seek Government assistance that walmart highly encourages, while having to work for one of the most profitable companies in the world who lies about caring for their employee's.
People need to Unionize who work for Target and other company's who do business like Walmart also.
Please find the time to watch a documentary called "Walmart, the High Cost of Low Prices".
It may just change your mind on how wonderful walmart is now at days.

First, the name changed since I am on my personal laptop not the company desktop. I am flying home for the Holiday. I am not the CEO and not totally against unions.
However, some info for you to consider. When these big "box" stores opened there were few full time employees. Most employees were part time second jobs or spouses wanting to bring some extra money into the house. Two things have happened, one, employeees wanted to work for the box stores full time anticipating benefits would be there; two, when the economy went down people needed jobs and the box companies were/are hiring but with minimal wages and benefits. To many still sounded good--for a while.
Now recognize that these companies are in business to make a profit, pay stock dividends and keep Wall Street analysts happy.
Therefore, using Walmart as an example, there are 3.6 Billion shares of stock,with a dividend of $1.59/share/year the payout is $5.8Billion dollars a year.
Higher wages, for every dollar in wage increase it costs the company an additional 27.5% for items such as Social Security, Medicare, State Workmans Comp,State Unemployment and Federal Unemployment. Walmart has roughly 2.1 million employees so for every dollar increase in wages the company pays $2.7 Million dollars.
No company is going to absorb these costs, it would negatively impact profits which would negatively impact Stock ananysts reports on the company.
The customer will pay for these costs thru increased prices, which will reach a point where many people will not buy, which causes a doubledown of the impact on the company. Yes, the employees will earn more but will pay more for goods and services.
Bottom line, wage increases are not as straight forward and simple as they may sound.

[Paladinhgwt]

informed citizen wrote:

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Thank you. I also noted this paragraph:
"There's one other discrepancy to note. More than half of Target employees, 51 percent, report that they are overachievers. Walmart, on the other hand, had only 44 percent declare themselves highly motivated, dedicated workers."
So maybe they get paid what they're worth?:-)
Also on a video of the strikers -- my goodness there were a bunch of extremely overweight "workers". I also noted a lot of older complainers but where would these older folks get a job?
Jobs at Kroger (and I'd bet other grocery stores) compare wage-wise with Walmart
"Kroger Hourly Wage/Pay
•Cashier Hourly Wage:$7.39/hr on average (From $5 ~$10 per hour)
•Co-Manager Annual Salaries:$41,750 on average (From $33k ~$53k)
•Grocery Clerk Hourly Wage:$9.20/hr on average (From $7 ~$13 per hour)
I'm trying to figure out how many people were put out of work in this area by the arrival of Walmart? Any idea? Mom and Pop stores are usually the MOST expensive around & the few mom and pops I know they are still in business buy their merchandise from Walmart and Sams Club.
If anything, I can see that this area has increased in job opportunities since Walmart arrived. Lowes, in my opinion, killed more lumber and hardware stores than Walmart killed Mom and Pop shops. Walmart is an excellent place for young workers to work their way up and older retirees to supplement their income.
I'm not going out for Black Friday but I'd love to see strikers TRY to hold back the wild crowd trying to get hold of those "bargains". LOL...

I am in full agreement with your commentary.
Relative to your comments on "Mom & Pop" shops, they are the reason Sams' Club exist. Notice even by the hours you can shop they are geared for the small businesses. Whether it be food items or basic merchandise these small businesses can buy low priced and resale higher price. For example, since it just my wife and I there are few food items we buy at Sams', size and quantity are not set for the average family.
Yes, Lowes and Home Depot will hurt the small stores unless they can stock higher demand items with a lower minimum quantity buy, this is how Ace survives.
"I want four nuts and three bolts, not 20 nuts and bolts in a package." "I want 18" of PVC pipe not 10'."
OK. we are getting ready to touchdown and I want to get off this plane and go home and the crew wants to go back to DC and go home also.
Have a Healthy and Happy Thanksgiving!

[hmmmm]

Why is no one speaking ill of Sams club in the same breath as Walmart? Costco, etc? Yes, some of the same people who complain about Walmart shop there. They are hypocrites. I shop at Walmart but don't bash them. It is what it is.

[Bug Ridge]

Paladinhgwt wrote:

<quoted text>First, the name changed since I am on my personal laptop not the company desktop. I am flying home for the Holiday. I am not the CEO and not totally against unions.
However, some info for you to consider. When these big "box" stores opened there were few full time employees. Most employees were part time second jobs or spouses wanting to bring some extra money into the house. Two things have happened, one, employeees wanted to work for the box stores full time anticipating benefits would be there; two, when the economy went down people needed jobs and the box companies were/are hiring but with minimal wages and benefits. To many still sounded good--for a while.
Now recognize that these companies are in business to make a profit, pay stock dividends and keep Wall Street analysts happy.
Therefore, using Walmart as an example, there are 3.6 Billion shares of stock,with a dividend of $1.59/share/year the payout is $5.8Billion dollars a year.
Higher wages, for every dollar in wage increase it costs the company an additional 27.5% for items such as Social Security, Medicare, State Workmans Comp,State Unemployment and Federal Unemployment. Walmart has roughly 2.1 million employees so for every dollar increase in wages the company pays $2.7 Million dollars.
No company is going to absorb these costs, it would negatively impact profits which would negatively impact Stock ananysts reports on the company.
The customer will pay for these costs thru increased prices, which will reach a point where many people will not buy, which causes a doubledown of the impact on the company. Yes, the employees will earn more but will pay more for goods and services.
Bottom line, wage increases are not as straight forward and simple as they may sound.

Good info ... However times have changed & more people are gonna demand & get a fair share of the pie that is too often eaten by a select few. Ya get my drift? Hostess just bit the dust cause they didn't want to share more of the cake ,.. Lol. If Walmart don't want to share more of their Huge profits with the employees then I say take them down.

[Realist]

Bug Ridge wrote:

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Good info ... However times have changed & more people are gonna demand & get a fair share of the pie that is too often eaten by a select few. Ya get my drift? Hostess just bit the dust cause they didn't want to share more of the cake ,.. Lol. If Walmart don't want to share more of their Huge profits with the employees then I say take them down.

Your dreaming if you think your going to "take down Walmart".
Hostess was already in Bankruptcy proceedings, they didn't have anything to share. If you are thinking of senior management salaries forget it, that is life, not going to change.
People will continue to buy if the price is right for their circumstances and if an employee is unhappy and leaves there are four others that are willing to take his/her place.
You may "demand" but don't expect to "get" your demands.

[Anti Walmart]

Walmart looks to be a stsrting point for employees who would like to be treated fairly.
There has to be a starting point so why not start with the big boy?
If the people can provail then let there be a domino effect for the rest of Big businesses who make unbelievable profits and lie about how much they care for there employee'e and the environment
like Sam's, Target and right on down the line.

[justme]

try to unionize and see how fast they close that store down...thats their policy....and it should be....unions steal as much money from their members as everyone else...ive had a couple of jobs in my younger years when i had no choice but to join the union....never did anything for me...and honestly since the umwa forced mine owners to clean up unsafe mines back in 19whatever....all unions are just moneymaking scams

[bacovabrat]

I worked for Kroger at oen time which was a union job. Min wage, no health benefits, and saw certain ppl done very wrong with no help from the union. I just recently started working at Walmart and making almost $8 an hr after the extra for working overnights, health benefits for both full and part tiem associates. Not to mention the extra bonus u get for being accident free for 3 months. As far as I see it it seems they are just as good if not better than some of the stores that have a union.

[oldstoner]

T

Bug Ridge wrote:

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SCAB!

How does that make me a scab? I get up and go to my job every day. If a person takes a job, they take the schedule that goes with it. They knew where they were going to work when they turned in there application.

[JamieWV]

happy..... happy....... joy ..........joy......almost carving time :)

[angel just me]

think that its already over

[Brian]

Only 12 hours till WalMart opens...be prepared!

[Shootist]

...LOL.. We have those on the left complaining about BIG Corporations and individuals NOT contributing their fair share in taxes etc....

The calls are for them to be taxed more and give their workers MORE..
WE have corporations paying such low wages and benefits, the TAXPAYERS have to pay their medical coverage and NO one gives a biggen?

The debate is on and intense over taxing the "rich" but in this case no one is for it?:)

We have heard for months how the "big wigs" exploit the rest of us... NOW, when the rubber could hit the road, what do we hear?

Crickets rubbing their legs together.:)

Strange country for sure.

[Shootist]

justme wrote:

try to unionize and see how fast they close that store down...thats their policy....and it should be....unions steal as much money from their members as everyone else...ive had a couple of jobs in my younger years when i had no choice but to join the union....never did anything for me...and honestly since the umwa forced mine owners to clean up unsafe mines back in 19whatever....all unions are just moneymaking scams

This subject has been a "conundrum" for me...Growing up, my father was in the UMWA and my mother was a school teacher..

Medical care for my father was second to none especially in his later years... I really don't see how anyone could have much better...When he died and my mother became ill, the lions share of expenses incurred were paid by the UMWA..

Her medical insurance paid some also, but it didn't come close to what the union provided.

One shouldn't just look at a higher wage and what you are getting NOW...One should look at the bigger picture, which is hard for the YOUNG to comprehend since they are healthy and strong and cannot conceieve of being other wise...Thus they don't see the "need" yet.

Low wages, poor or no medical coverage, the right to get fired without even a reason or hearing is what a lot of people advocate on this subject...That seems strange to me:)
Point being, IF everyone is so happy with the status quo in a company, there would be no talk of strikes in the first place:)

The fault then lies with those workers who aren't grateful to have a job?:)