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ok then

Beckley, WV

#1707 Apr 8, 2010
I agree with matt and let us move on...and for okay...when have I defended or show support to only sam and jason...you wont find it on this or anyother site....the meeting that you also quoted...was WRONG...no meeting between them to work out anything before the firing! that was suppose to take place on monday, they were fired on sunday...old news...the meeting was to try to bring peace after the fact!
FCC did not start the next week...but a couple weeks later, after they were approached to think about the idea of a new church...during which time they were praying to see what God would have them do...since they had been fired! The started the church, and God has blessed...i do not attend either church..i am part of the community of FATIH...in the fact that I worship God...my sole purpose for being on here is to speak things that I know, and to express my opinions...it is extremely sad that this site exists, but it does, and it doesn't go away....someone always starts something up again! That leads me and others to once again express things....i do not hate, or even dislike any involved...just truth is truth...my question now is: why you have to turn and make ugly claims? What do you know about anyone's ministry...why go there? Why speak of things you know NOTHING about? To make yourself feel better? or Smart? if people stick to the facts, then it is better discussion....Why so Personal? who is the one defending who?
ok then

Beckley, WV

#1708 Apr 8, 2010
Talking to the FCC congregation memebers about why they attend, they all say the same thing...it isn't about the lies, or gossip, or fog machines...but about the church! The church is the people, not the buildings, or programs! The people that attend fcc are the church that many of them have been with for 20 years...it's the core of the old Macarthur Church of God. They are a group of caring and loving people who are enjoying the fellowship of one another, in an atmosphere that is not stressed, and forced. It has been a chance to start over! FWC had gotten to big and impersonal, and changed! NO at FCC is sitting around and still talking about Ken Wright or anything that goes on at FWC....can FWC say the same?
Why

Athens, WV

#1709 Apr 8, 2010
Why do people continue to bring these issues up? I honestly believe some people do not know how to let go and move on with life. Some of the people on here are just looking for attention. Some people are looking to debate. I attend FWC, but I don't sit around worrying about Faith Community. I have heard that church is doing well which is great. No one should talk bad about Sam or Jason, but in the same respect no one should talk about Ken either. As far as the phone tree is concerned I do understand why former attenders would get frusturated. It's kind of like a slap in the face. At the same time, I feel that those people should just contact the church and ask for their name to be removed. Slandering is wrong. I noticed okay then putting down Pastor Matt E's ministry. That is not cool and does not represent the church well. This situation is over and for those of you who continue to complain and talk about it need to move. The fact that some still dwell on it shows me that they need to work on themselves and not worry about others. Slander, gossip, and stories never help any situation. I have no problem with people making decisions to move on to Faith Community because that is what is best for them and their families, but at the same time no one should criticize those who stay at FWC. I personally have decided to focus on my personal relationship with Christ and to help others when the oppurtunity presents itself. I have allowed myself to focus on other people before, but you can't focus on others. The only people who understand the situation at the church are those who are directly involved. Never go by what someone tells you because even the most trustworthy person will have their own version of what happened. I believe God directs our steps and He has directed my steps to FWC. When I first started this church it was about love and caring, which is great, but it lacked teaching about spiritual boldness and operating in the spirit. This church has that now. Some people like that intense worshiping church and bold pastors, for example like Tommy Bates and TD Jakes. Some like the loving and encouraging church that builds you up and makes you feel good until the next Sunday. An example of this is Joel Osteen. There is nothing wrong with either. Some enjoy the calm and warming presence of God and some like to dance and shout. Bottom line though, this stuff needs to stop on both behalfs. If you just want some attention or your just bitter then you need to work it out another way than through topix. What is done is done and we need God to have control and in the future God will expose the right from wrong. He has already done that, but my interpretation of what is right and wrong could be different from those who left and are hurt by this. If I am wrong then I am wrong. If I am wrong then I will go to the people I disagreed with and make things right. I feel called to FWC, but for those of you called to other churches keep obeying God. God bless you all.
Why

Athens, WV

#1710 Apr 8, 2010
To Okay,

I understand completely why you want to stand up for Pastor Ken. The things said about this man is not right, but getting on topix and slandering others and digging up old dirt doesn't help. It doesn't represent the church well and by the way it doesn't represent you well. Fortunetley for you, topix does not require you to put your name because if you put your name beside your comments then I believe your reputation would be damaged. I believe you are immature. I don't mean that in a bad way, but I know when I was young I would speak before I think. I appreciate the fact that you support Pastor Ken and the church, but your way of defending it is inappropriate. Pray about it and continue to pursue God. You will have to answer for what you do on earth, not what Pastor Ken, Pastor Sam, etc have done. You have accused people of gossip, but yet you are doing the same thing. Basically you are coming against gossip by using gossip. God bless you for wanting to do, in your mind, what is right, but you have allowed yourself to get caught up in this mess. Be careful of what you say because you can't take back the things you say. Make sure you have proof of what you say.

To Okay Then,

I notice you harp on Okay and others for standing up for Pastor Ken and covering him. I commend people for standing up for this man. There are lot more nasty post about Pastor Ken then others. In the same respect, I don't agree with how people are defending Pastor Ken by using slander and gossip, but my challenge to everyone is until you have personally seen Pastor Ken, Pastor Sam, etc commit the acts you accuse them of, then don't be so quick to make assumptions. Also, don't believe because so and so told you because so and so might have told them. Okay then, I understand your frusturation with the phone tree, but why get on here and complain about it? Tell Pastor Sam and Jason to go to Pastor Ken and have him remove Faith Communities members from the tree. Okay then, don't accuse others of the very thing that you are doing. You are defending FCC and it pastors just like FWC ppl are defending there church.
ok then

Beckley, WV

#1711 Apr 8, 2010
WHY--you need to go back and reread my comments...i did not bring matt's ministry in question...nor have i harped on anyone else "Okay" personally attacked my stance and opinions and turned it ugly...i just asked questions in return...
The phone tree thing...have been calling fwc, and asked to be removed..they said ok..but still getting calls...why go to anyone else like sam and jason..i do not go to FCC...but if i did why bring them back into a squabble with fwc?

What am i accusing others of doing that i am doing? and Once again...show me a post where i have defended FCC over FWC...just been stating FACTS to counter the comments made out of school from some others!
Why

Oak Hill, WV

#1712 Apr 8, 2010
Why get so defensive ok then? I did make a mistake and put that ok then put down Matt E's ministry. It was okay. You talked about okay getting ugly. He/she is not getting ugly, but I can tell that This Is Sad will get ugly. I think he/she has every right to as well. He/she sounds as though he/she was effected by this mine tragedy. He/she is exactly right about how we all need to stop worrying about are insignificant church problems and pray for these miners. This forum should have never been started, but sadly someone decided to start gossiping. I know some of you think that by getting on here and talking about the things that was supposedly done is a righteous deed, but anyone who knows anything about righteousness knows that getting on topix and putting others down and talking about subjects that you haven't seen personally, have no proof of, and quite frankly talking about others whether you have proof or not is not righteous. Ok Then, prove to everyone on here that everything that your saying is INDEED FACTS. Because if it is indeed fact that means you have support for your facts. Everyone knows that in order for something to be a fact that there has to support or proof that makes it an absolute fact.
confused

Oak Hill, WV

#1713 Apr 8, 2010
I just wish eveyone involved would just swallow their pride and do what the bible says to do. How can this many christians still have an odd against each other. It's really sad,because FWC was once a united church. You can't put all the blame on PW, I mean he may have his part in it,but what did we all do wrong, that this thing could'nt have been worked out. I know this sounds like an absurd thing to say,but would'nt it just be nice to all be together again? Because even though both chuches are doing well,I have a feeling most people are feeling a void no matter which place your at.
ok then

Beckley, WV

#1714 Apr 8, 2010
were they fired? I guess i needed to be in the office like you were?

“ad hominem = ignorance”

Level 4

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#1715 Apr 9, 2010
I am still waiting for the apology... rotfl
Okay wrote:
<quoted text>
Pastor Matt E.,
They were going to resign, but they were going to do it in an inappropriate matter. They were asked to resign on Sunday instead of Wednesday when they were planning on doing so. Pastor Wright, Pastor Sam, and Bro. Wicker all met and came to an agreement that this was the best thing to do. Pastor Sam also admitted to saying that he was fired, when he wasn't. Pastor Ken agreed that he should have allowed Pastor Sam and Pastor Jason to address the congregation. Both parties involved confessed they did wrong. Sadly this happened to miscommunication on Bro. Wickers behalf.[b]Pastor Matt E., you of all people should not be participating in this gossip forum. Lucky for you I am not in authority for the COG or your churches head pastor because I would immediately remove you from whatever position(s) you hold.[/b] You judge Pastor Wright[b] because of your friendship with people who attend the Faith Community Church. All you have done on this forum is come against FWC and its staff.[/b][b]The last I heard you ministry wasn't so successful either, so why don't you focus on yours before you focus on everyone else's.[/b]
They were is not "They did"

I have not said anything about Mr.Wright... would you show me where I have? Please find it and post it.. if I did not then I will await your appology.

I have said nothing negative about FWC. Nor have I said one negativve word about any faction in this process.

I have been uplifting to both parties, which is the right thing to do.

And lastly, I do not worship a denomination, I worship a God.

I have not broken my obligation to the church, my denomination, nor to God.

Slander does two things, it makes the slanderer be seen for what he is, and it makes the slandered more solid on thier ground where they stand.

You hide behind the anon, and talk very strong. It is a shame you don't come to me in person... but then again, people who manipulate are prone to be that way.

Please place the rmearks IN CONTEXT, and expose me, if not you just exposed yourself as someone making up stories.



Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#1716 Apr 9, 2010
confused wrote:
I just wish eveyone involved would just swallow their pride and do what the bible says to do. How can this many christians still have an odd against each other. It's really sad,because FWC was once a united church. You can't put all the blame on PW, I mean he may have his part in it,but what did we all do wrong, that this thing could'nt have been worked out. I know this sounds like an absurd thing to say,but would'nt it just be nice to all be together again? Because even though both chuches are doing well,I have a feeling most people are feeling a void no matter which place your at.
your so right it would be nice to be all together again, united as one body, not divided like it is, i dont know who is at fault but it really doesnt matter anyway, there are good friends from both who are seperated,

“ad hominem = ignorance”

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Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#1717 Apr 10, 2010
imfedup wrote:
<quoted text>your so right it would be nice to be all together again, united as one body, not divided like it is, i dont know who is at fault but it really doesnt matter anyway, there are good friends from both who are seperated,
Excellent response.
Heartbroken

United States

#1718 Apr 14, 2010
I miss my church family as it once was. May God help us all to love one another regardless of what has happened. If we do not have God's love in us nothing we say or do has any value. Read I Corinthians Chapter 13. Children, let's seek to be filled with the love of God; then everything else let's leave to God; He will take care of his children. We do not have the authority to judge anyone. That is God's authority, not ours. Father, help us all.
TwinkleToesMcGra w

Beckley, WV

#1719 May 23, 2010
How is the back biting at that church going?

Last time I heard, the people were still blaming everyone else for their self induced failings.

Anyone know if they are still losing members? Or still slandering others from their pulpit?
capitalist pig

Beckley, WV

#1720 May 23, 2010
I have had the opportunity to talk to Pasor Sam a couple of times since he left FWC. I dont really know him well enough to ask questions about what happened. But what impressed me about the conversations was that he is still the same soft spoken, humble person that he was before. He has moved on and seems happy in his new life.
I respect this man as a man of God and a truely good person. I have no opinion on what is going on at FWC, but i have a respect for Pastor Sam and think his leaving would be a loss to any church. But who knows what lives he will touch or what good works he will do in his new position. I have no doubts that God will bless this man.
Concerned about the Body

Conover, NC

#1721 Jun 2, 2010
I am writing this to let FWC know that we have a plague in our Body at FWC. Its very easy to come into the sanctuary on Sunday mornings and Wed. nights and play church. And we have people doing this very thing. In particular there is a woman in our church that comes here every Sunday and puts on a show of worship and prayer. She rocks back and forth and and pumps her hands in the air as if she were a true worshiper. The TRUTH of the matter is that this woman just recently sperated from her 4th husband. She had only been married to him for about 6 months and suddenly decided that she didnt want him, like the three others before him. Why has this not been adressed and why would she be allowed to minister at any capacity in our Worship Center. The word of God speaks about these kind of immoral women. So! do we turn our heads or do we address this issue. We have had enough problems over this past year and Satan is using her to create more. She must be delivered of the Harlot spirit.
WoW

Beckley, WV

#1722 Jun 2, 2010
This woman is a leader or staff member in the church?
SAD
Amazed

Oak Hill, WV

#1723 Jun 3, 2010
I'm still amazed that this forum is still going. You would think people had better things to do. This stuff has been going on for a year now. GET OVER IT AND GET A LIFE. I read Concerned About The Bodies post and you are not one bit concerned about the body. Your concerned about starting trouble. This shows me you do not attend service to worship, but to observe people and gossip. This lady is not a staff member. She attends service there. I guess now "church people" feel that we need to start asking people who only attend church to leave when they have problems. I guess if an alcoholic, drug addict, prostitute, etc walk in that we just need to meet them at the door and ask them to leave so you won't disturb our worship center. Well, Concerned About The Body, it's not our worship center, it's God's worship center.

I hate religion and church. I love Jesus. Religion is killing the church. The Church of God denomination is certainly dying because we have leaders who want to hold onto tradition and not allow the young leaders to have the opportunity to step in and make a difference. We cry about wanting God to move, but we are not willing to let go of our tradition, motives, and selfish problems. The one thing I learned a few years ago is when I go to church I need to focus on God and not look around at everyone else. Everyone has problems and everyone has things they need to be delivered of. This world is hungry for God, but I have a feeling that revival is going to start in a store front, in an arena, in a tent, but not in a sanctuary. The people that the revival starts through will not be in suits and ties, but in tshirts, jeans and they will have crazy hair, tattoos and piercings.

At FWC, the revival is amongst the young people. Go on a Wednesday night to the youth room and see for yourself. People who left the church accused the youth leaders of allowing the youth members to drink(which is not truth). These kids are drinking alright, they are drinking the living water of God. That living water is filling the youth up and is flowing out amongst their friends and family. The young adults have already outgrown their room and they are focused on going into the community witnessing and doing community service for others. I heard a song by a man named Jake Hamilton and it says that "Revival's not a method or a mission, revival's not a program or plan, revival's not a slogan, revival is a man and His name is Jesus."
The young people are wanting and seeking after Jesus and that is why they are experiencing God like never before. Maybe some of you older folks need to step out of tradition and seek Jesus and you will see what I'm talking about.

This is not just for FWC people, but for everyone who attends a church. Pray for your church, pray for your leaders and the congregation, and when you see things going on at a church that you don't agree with, then pray for it and allow God to take care of it. Don't get on topix, facebook, or go around telling everyone about it. I'm so sick of hearing the phrase "I heard" from people. Yeah, you heard, but you don't know. We need to love God with everything in us, love people, and obey God's word. If we do those things everything else will fall into place. Stop gossiping about people and start loving and praying for people.

Purple koolade

Beckley, WV

#1724 Jun 4, 2010
Yeah, when your youth leaders talk bad about other churches youth.. that is a really big drinker nothing more than misguided emotions.

God knows they need a youth program there, cause they certainly do not have the ADULTS backing their perversed actions fro leadership.

Quit sounding like an episode of TBN.

The youth experienced God allot more PRIOR to this current pastorial staff simply for the fact that the prior staff didn't have a man in the pulpit who enjoyed chasing "skirts" via the children's church pastor, and telling people in the congregation that if they left the FWC that they wouldn't have God's favor in their life. Telling people that they are cursed for not going to FWC is totally retarded.

So raise your ands, and shout all ye people, cause when a pastor lives not the way of God, neither does the vision of the church. Your church is SURVIVING, not flourishing.

You STOP being nieve. Thinking your church does no wrong. For the last year or so, your church has done more damage to the community in the name of God than anything else.
rumor or fact

Charleston, WV

#1725 Jun 4, 2010
Is it true the Trinity Principal quit? I heard the deacon board did something wrong to one of the teachers and she quit. I hope this is just a rumor.
Amazed

Bald Knob, WV

#1726 Jun 4, 2010
Purple koolade wrote:
Yeah, when your youth leaders talk bad about other churches youth.. that is a really big drinker nothing more than misguided emotions.
God knows they need a youth program there, cause they certainly do not have the ADULTS backing their perversed actions fro leadership.
Quit sounding like an episode of TBN.
The youth experienced God allot more PRIOR to this current pastorial staff simply for the fact that the prior staff didn't have a man in the pulpit who enjoyed chasing "skirts" via the children's church pastor, and telling people in the congregation that if they left the FWC that they wouldn't have God's favor in their life. Telling people that they are cursed for not going to FWC is totally retarded.
So raise your ands, and shout all ye people, cause when a pastor lives not the way of God, neither does the vision of the church. Your church is SURVIVING, not flourishing.
You STOP being nieve. Thinking your church does no wrong. For the last year or so, your church has done more damage to the community in the name of God than anything else.
No, if I was hoping to sound like an episode of TBN I would talk about money and ask everyone on here for $50 or $100 dollars and then send you a book or anointed cloth. Most of TBN is religion. Go listen to Francis Chan, Andy Stanley, and speakers from Jesus Culture if you want to know who influences me. The reason I like them is because they are relevant and think forward unlike old, religious people. I can tell your pretty bitter. You must have went to church there. I had someone from Faith Community tell me that the services are boring because their is no power behind the Word or the message. Why do I see teens from FCC coming over on Wednesday nights if the youth is nothing but misguided emotions? Also name me the youth leaders who have talked about others if you know so much cause I haven't heard a single one of them ever talk about anyone. I can tell your from FCC or New Life worship center or Deacons R Us. Your just bitter because the church is moving forward. The youth is growing, the young adults are growing, the childrens department is growing, the church is growing.

Give me proof that Pastor Ken chased after the children's pastor. Oh and I mean a picture, video clip, letter. You can post stuff like that on here. Also, tell me when Pastor Ken said that if you left FWC you were cursed. I just want proof. I know you think because a good portion of people left that is proof, but I have seen several churches lose members due to a new pastor. The reason for that is because people like the 5 deacons want to control everything and when they don't get there way they make up false rumors and scold people. You all trash Pastor Ken, but Pastor Mark goes to Metro COG in Alabama and the church falls apart and loses several people. Of course no one trashes Pastor Mark though. I know you won't be cursed if you leave. Just follow your heart. Don't go leaving a church just because Jason Lowe or Jeff Oneal said that so and so did this and they are good people so therefore I will leave. Pray and seek God about where you need to be. If it's at another church then fine.

I guess I'll go drink my purple koolaid and lift my ands. Learn how to spell if your going to talk trash.

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