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GrondNPound

Beckley, WV

#1404 Dec 10, 2009
ohmy wrote:
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well by reading your comment, you have poor management skills for tearing down a person and for not being a peacemaker. for anybody that reads this post, why don't you call and ask sp and kw how well ww worked with them and how much love and concern he had for everyone involved. i've spoken with sp AND kw both and they have respect for ww. so how do you come up with this gossip and slander. i am friends with sp and kw and they would totally disagree with you. shame on you for not know what you are talking about and hurting not only ww, but God's kingdom. don't you realize you are hurting people or do you simply not care. you are accountable for every idle word. everyone needs to let this go and start praying for ALL the churches to reach the lost souls and hurting people ... what really matters to God!
So you tearing him down in this post is ok... but his remarks are not... hmmmmm. We call that prejudice.

God's kingdom is being hurt by a congregation of people who are worshiping a man over God.

You all are not associating with members of the new churches... and you think that is a proper way to act? Stop playing both sides of the fence.

A carnival without elephants is still a carnival. The elephant in this case, is trying to make this a popularity contest, and you are too. Instead, you need to learn how to not blindly follow people.
chopstix

Lubbock, TX

#1405 Dec 11, 2009
WW is not to blame here. The fact is, you have three pastors who were brought into to observe and investigate, and those three had the power to remove this guy.

Instead the three pastors voted him IN, instead of out.

The politics smells horribly.

What I heard is that the same Senior pastor who authorized this quack to remain as pastor at FWC, is the same one who let SP transfer his membership to his church, while SP started this new church.

THAT is the real problem. People playing politics behind doors at the churches expense.

WW went by the three pastors recommendations.

Anyone find it strange that the same person who gave the QUACK authority to remain in power at the FWC by saying he found no fault in him.... is the same guy who gives refuge to those that complained on the QUACK by transfering membership. If that isn't division... nothing is.
Loyal Friend

Beckley, WV

#1406 Dec 11, 2009
Cowgirl Cait wrote:
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I heard about this post from a friend and all I can do is laugh. Lol!! I was with this short fat boy for a short period.(Thank God!!) Justin is just a needy little servant. I really think that he thought I would be impressed by him carrying a computer and a towel for his pastor. I mean come on really?! If Justin is a product of this pastor's mentoring then no wonder things are going downhill for this church.
I also read the post supporting Justin. Everybody acts like he is a "great young man of God." He serves no purpose. For those of you who supported Justin expect him to go buy you a hundred gifts now, pray for you, call you all the time, and get attached to you. If you show this guy, or shall I say boy haha, any sign of care he will get hooked on you. Hopefully Justin will go to Ohio, Florida, or anywhere but here, with PKW. PKW, my advice would be do what I did, dump the short little fat boy and get a real man like my Patrick. My life has been better since Justin and maybe things will get better for you to PKW.
Cait, I know what you are and what you stand for better than you know yourself. Unfortunately, I used to stand for many of the same things that you do now. My only prayer for you is that your eyes are opened to the harm that you inflict through your cruel words and heartless actions and that you are broken and forgiven before it is too late. I have to live with the consequences of my mistakes on a daily basis, and from your words alone, I fear you are headed down a much more dangerous path. This so called "short fat boy" is an annointed man of God that I hold near and dear to my heart. He has been there for me during my lowest moments, and I will forever be there for his. Yes, he is human, and he sometimes falls short of what God plans for him. Don't we all? If I recall right, and I may not so correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt the Bible say that our righteousness is as filthy rags? Do we not all sin and fall short of the glory of God? I know I do on a daily basis. One thing is for sure, I have the comforter dwelling inside of me to correct me and lead me back to the path of righteousness when I start to stray, and so does the "short fat boy". He is more of a man than most men will ever be simply because he realizes his short comings and corrects them and asks for forgiveness. You had more than you could ever imagine in that young man. His devotion and passion is something that most girls dream about and do not simply scoff at. So lets not throw stones simply because you have a problem with someone showing affections and uncompared devotion to you. This young man has done nothing but good for everyone that he comes into contact with. When this young man says he will pray for you, he means it wholeheartedly, and I know for a fact that this young man that you are trying to bring down still prays for you daily. Prayers for your happiness and well being. He is not the "creep" or "stalker" type that you so willingly portray him as. He is simply a servant of the most high God. He does not worship man, woman, or PK as so many of you would like for others to believe. Let's stop directing blame and stop throwing stones at others, but let us turn the finger on ourselves. Maybe if we examined our own souls, we would find the cause of all this turmoil.
LJW

Bald Knob, WV

#1407 Dec 11, 2009
All this started because he wasn't an ass kisser
Who

Bald Knob, WV

#1408 Dec 11, 2009
LJW wrote:
All this started because he wasn't an ass kisser
LJW,

Who are you referring too? PKW, Justin, etc?
Whats The Deal

Bald Knob, WV

#1409 Dec 11, 2009
Cowgirl Cait wrote:
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I heard about this post from a friend and all I can do is laugh. Lol!! I was with this short fat boy for a short period.(Thank God!!) Justin is just a needy little servant. I really think that he thought I would be impressed by him carrying a computer and a towel for his pastor. I mean come on really?! If Justin is a product of this pastor's mentoring then no wonder things are going downhill for this church.
I also read the post supporting Justin. Everybody acts like he is a "great young man of God." He serves no purpose. For those of you who supported Justin expect him to go buy you a hundred gifts now, pray for you, call you all the time, and get attached to you. If you show this guy, or shall I say boy haha, any sign of care he will get hooked on you. Hopefully Justin will go to Ohio, Florida, or anywhere but here, with PKW. PKW, my advice would be do what I did, dump the short little fat boy and get a real man like my Patrick. My life has been better since Justin and maybe things will get better for you to PKW.
I'm glad you see the light Cowgirl Cait. I can't blame you for dumping the boy. Honestly, who wants a fat boy who wears cheap suits and carries a laptop, towel, and water for a man? From your post I assume that PKW was nice to him one day and the boy got hooked on him too. Maybe he wasn't appointed by PKW and started doing this on his own. Sounds like a nutcase to me. Cowgirl Cait can you clear up my questions about this kid? Did he come from Ohio or is he from here? What's he like? Is he truly the great young man that everyone claims for him to be or is a fake? Many of you think I'm jealous of this kid or that I'm just trying to tear him down, but I just got tired of seeing him upfront when he has no right to be there. What qualifications does he have? He is just a kid. The other problem I have is what use is an armor bearer? I go to another church now and I don't see that pastor with one. I've been in church all my life and have never seen any of my pastors with a so called "armor bearer". PKW listen to this girl, get rid of the boy. Obviously her life is better and maybe things will get better for you too.
coug-eer fan

Naoma, WV

#1410 Dec 11, 2009
I get that feeling that "what's the deal," "LJW," "who," and "cait" are all the same person or a couple of people coming up with their own storyline for the forum to become entertainment. I wouldn't endulge them in this charade. I can't imagine that many different people connected to an ip address in cool ridge posting within minutes of one another.
It's obvious this forum isnt about answers or healing (or has it ever been), but it's about some people getting their kicks at other's expense and reputation.
NeverWereDeaconM aterial

Beckley, WV

#1411 Dec 11, 2009
Whats The Deal wrote:
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I'm glad you see the light Cowgirl Cait. I can't blame you for dumping the boy. Honestly, who wants a fat boy who wears cheap suits and carries a laptop, towel, and water for a man? From your post I assume that PKW was nice to him one day and the boy got hooked on him too. Maybe he wasn't appointed by PKW and started doing this on his own. Sounds like a nutcase to me. Cowgirl Cait can you clear up my questions about this kid? Did he come from Ohio or is he from here? What's he like? Is he truly the great young man that everyone claims for him to be or is a fake? Many of you think I'm jealous of this kid or that I'm just trying to tear him down, but I just got tired of seeing him upfront when he has no right to be there. What qualifications does he have? He is just a kid. The other problem I have is what use is an armor bearer? I go to another church now and I don't see that pastor with one. I've been in church all my life and have never seen any of my pastors with a so called "armor bearer". PKW listen to this girl, get rid of the boy. Obviously her life is better and maybe things will get better for you too.
Uh....Ronnie? Is that you?
VroomVroom

Beckley, WV

#1412 Dec 11, 2009
Chosen wrote:
Sadly, KW is very self-promoting. It permeates whether you talk with him a few minutes or listen to an hour sermon. He interjects "self" in much that he says and does. Cardboard cutout of him at the church, proclamations of doing things because he is the pastor and he said to do it, and facebook, look at me, me, me. If PK can give his pride to God, he could rise to the calling God has for him. To Florida Bound, if you are right, he will enjoy riding his Harley more in FL than on the crooked roads in WV (remember his drive/experience to Prince and down that mountain?) LOL
He doesn't have his Harley anymore, so sorry...no biking in FL!
Pathetic

San Francisco, CA

#1413 Dec 12, 2009
I was there wrote:
Try 352, I was there and counted.
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How sad that you most likely only attended church to rejoice in the fact that people weren't there and then to report YOUR count.
Remember God knows exactly who was there and why.
Rejoice in

United States

#1414 Dec 13, 2009
GOD today, Let this business pass and let the Lord take over, this is the one day it's not about the head count it's about the Heart & soul count. Church's that have the presence of God in them are what matters, not what Church all Churches.. Be blessed and loved for Our Lord will bring the message today of Hope, peace, faith and Mostly LOVE!
I take each of you to my list of prayers, there is no one greater then The Lord to pray to, I dont not bow down to a man, I bow down to "the Man..", The Lord Jesus Christ!
Have a wonderful Sunday no matter where you go, it's your right to be loved, it's His Glory and Praise that does it!
Amen..and God Bless
amen

Mount Hope, WV

#1415 Dec 13, 2009
"Rejoice in" I stand in agreement with you my dear friend!Let it be about our lord and Saviour today and every day.
happy gurl

Sophia, WV

#1416 Dec 13, 2009
Amen
SadAngel

United States

#1417 Dec 13, 2009
I third that.. AMEN to the Good Lord above.
PEACE BE STILL

United States

#1418 Dec 16, 2009
The pastor is an exellent man of God. Humble and has always been up front with the congregation. Whatever lies has been spoken has truly been a work from satan to set back the move that God is getting ready to make in our community. I am sad that people would stoop to such levels but when your dealing with satan...I guess nothings too low. Just keep this in thought.

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister GRACE unto the hearers.
Ephesians 4:29

And never forget the first thing you ever learned in kindergarten....if you can't say anything nice don't say anything AT ALL.

But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account therof in the day of judgement. For by thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 12:36-37

A prudent man concealeth knowledge:but the hear of fools proclaimeth foolishness.
Proverbs 12:23

If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridelth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
James 1:26

Please everyone put this to rest. Let the church handle their own problems within the sanctity of their 4 walls and not all over the web.
Two Cents

Beckley, WV

#1419 Dec 16, 2009
Lol, it just about WAS at rest, this topic was way way down on the list. But you dredged it back up.
This absolutely must STOP

United States

#1420 Dec 16, 2009
Nothing is being done to fix whatever situation arises. Nothing at all...whethe he/she has clear meaning of the situation or not.....it does not matter. What matters is that people need to altogether just stop posting and stop replying to one another.....

WHERE THERE IS NO WOOD THE FIRE DIES!

Put it to rest and once again let the own church MEMBERS and ATTENDERS work out whatever problems they may have. Please

Just stop the fire and let it rest...

because NOTHING is being solved and if you have to look at Topics to decide whether or not you agree/ disagree with a situation, it's sad.

A man is known by his Spirit and if you can't clearly see because of all the he said she said things than it's just best that you leave a situation ALONE and let those people it envolves...let them take care of it..

Stop the Rumors

Stop the Lies

and stop running your fingers....it's doing no good!
Chosen

Beckley, WV

#1421 Dec 16, 2009
To the poster - "This Absolutely Must Stop", you are much late in posting kudos to KW. LOL. This was all buried until you resurrected it. And besides people have stopped adoring and worshipping this man. Have you not seen that people are worshipping and loving God again? Get your eyes off the Topix and look around the city. The many folks who have left FWC and are still leaving have learned a valuable lesson, "Put no confidence in the flesh." Don't you understand that people could care less about KW now? Little battles, little battles, he finds every service,and he is picking and choosing his own battles now with the "wheat" because all the so called "tares" are gone. Now Beckley is just praying that KW finds God's purpose in his life. Beckley, WV can live without him, and they will.
For crying out loud

Beckley, WV

#1422 Dec 16, 2009
Strongs words from chose, and I agree. To the poster known as "Peace Be Still", when is the last time you have been in one of the services and heard the jabs? You call that 'sanctity' within those 4 walls? It is more like a battlefield of souls. Peoples' hearts and souls are thrown aside like a field of bones that the crows have picked away. And still doing it all in the 'name of Jesus' with a little stomp and dance and a few hallelujahs thrown out for good worship.
thereitis

Beckley, WV

#1423 Dec 16, 2009
PEACE BE STILL wrote:
The pastor is an exellent man of God. Humble and has always been up front with the congregation. Whatever lies has been spoken has truly been a work from satan to set back the move that God is getting ready to make in our community. I am sad that people would stoop to such levels but when your dealing with satan...I guess nothings too low.
I am a former attender ... long, long time member actually .... I PERSONALLY was lied to by KW and them watched him try to manipulate someone else to escape getting caught ... I witnessed this first hand ... I also PERSONALLY know of sin in the music ministry that was pushed under the rug so KW could 'look good' on Sunday mornings ... so these statements are truth, not gossip, not lies, not slander ... they are truth!!!!!!! I am so tired of people trying to ignore the FACTS. Anyone with ANY SENSE AT ALL can not justify FWC losing over half of their congregation since this man has been there as God's work. Don't try blaming this on God ... Do you really want to associate Him with all of this doubt, confusion, hate, greed, etc. So yeah, we are dealing with satan here, he loves this kind of thing, he has destroyed a church. Sadly, KW, because of his greed and need for self-glorification is the one being used. At this point, when you try to defend this man, you just sound pathetic!

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