Family Worship center
mi scusi

Norwich, VT

#833 Nov 17, 2009
noonewillknow wrote:
I read so much crap from all of your guys stuff, letters you have wrote to the Over-seer and it is rediculous! i cant stand to read it all! it gets under my skin so bad, to know that the people who were elected to be there for te pastor, to be there when he needed them and to be an example for our church would say all this crap!
Bogus again. If, as you claim, you have read any of this material and you still say that anywhere in those documents anyone was called a "tramp," then I question your comprehension and/or your honesty.

The deacons did exactly what they were elected to do which was to confront the dangerous doctrine PK was preaching and the questionable actions and leadership he was displaying. When all warnings went unheeded by everyone in positions of leadership, there was nothing more to be done than to remove themselves and their families from under this dangerous teaching.

Oh, and, by the way, i'm not one of those "guys."

Since: Nov 09

Beckley, WV

#834 Nov 17, 2009
To the one speaking in italian, please excuse or something like that. anyway. I am still there, and will continue to be there, nothing you guys will say will make me leave. I know where I am supposed to be, and that is there with the rest of the God loving congergation. Now if you dont like it there then thats on you. I really dont care. But you need to stop running your mouths and be happy where you are and start focusing on the new church and quit focusing on what and who you left behind. you guys left it for a reason and that was because of what yiou think is going on, well your not there anymore so do us all a favor and stop dragging this out. Im staying at FWC and will continue to sand by pastor Ken and the rest of our church, God Bless.

Since: Nov 09

Beckley, WV

#835 Nov 17, 2009
rosie wells wrote:
<quoted text> Okay, I went back and read the rest of the forum that I had skipped and I see now what all I had missed. I only have one more ? you only have one re-haired woman in your choir?
what does a woman having red hair in our choir have anything to do with what were talking about?
Pathetic

Oak Hill, WV

#836 Nov 17, 2009
Whats next wrote:
Does anybody know anything about something happened at TCA today? Don't know all the facts yet but I heard the youth pastor got a kid out of class and yelled at him for saying he was leaving the church. The kids mom may be getting the law involved. What is going to happen next?
Once again I see another one of you turning to your vice of gossip. You said I heard the youth pastor got a kid out of class. The key words are "I heard." What is the matter with you hypocrites? Do you all have no dignity at all.

Since: Sep 09

AOL

#837 Nov 17, 2009
Let us reason together wrote:
<quoted text>
What doctrinal issues? Were there real doctrinal issues and, if so, how were they addressed by the leadership of the Church of God?
Let us reason together

What doctrines does PK teach that the other long term pastors and deacons do not agree with.
These doctrines have been thoroughly discussed in earlier blogs, both side had an ample opportunity to respond.

But there are a couple:

For FWC, it is the change in church government from a system where the pastor is an employee of the church

As such is accountable to the church for his actions, to a theocracy that is run by an apostle who is answerable only to
God.

Modern day apostles are not recognized because to be an apostle you must have been a followers of Jesus from John?s
baptism and have seen the physical resurrection of Jesus. This is impossible for anyone today. The term apostle today
means one who is sent (a missionary). The foundation has been laid by the original apostles and is complete, no need
for modern apostles.

The restoration of the doctrine of the OFFICE of five fold ministry that will usher in the millennium. This doctrine is
about 180 years old, and has failed and been repackaged many times.

The Church of God refuses to address this issue.
WOW

Roanoke, VA

#838 Nov 17, 2009
"noonewillknow" are you blind??? or are you in denial??? What has PKW done to you people to be this blind. do you not see what god is doing??? PK is being delt with by god <god is telling his people to go elsewhere away from PKW>. Can you not see the turmoil thats going on because of this man??? You can not tell me that Pastor S was dismissed or left because HE IS in the wrong!!! That man is a wonderful man of god. When you mentioned a mans daughter in this convo just shows how desperate you have become. You never involve children and that makes me question if your a christian at all

Since: Nov 09

Beckley, WV

#839 Nov 17, 2009
Ok dude, listen up. I dont know who you are but i do know your not there anymore and need to focus on where your at now instead of us at the church. you left us for a reason now leave us be and stop with this bull. And for you Deacons and anyone else who read this, you guys are just Deacons, you guys didnt go to school to be Pastors, Nor were you called to be pastors, if this was the case then you would be at your own church with your own congergation, the people that were called in to evaluate and assess the situation are by far more older than you guys, and have more experience in this field, and if anyone would find something wrong with the way he was handling our church then he would no longer be here,

Since: Nov 09

Beckley, WV

#840 Nov 17, 2009
correction, If anyone would find something wrong with the way he was handling things it would be the over-seers that came in to evaluate. And just to clarify, the one i was talkin about being pregnant was one of the deacons daughters, not anyone else. just to clarify

Since: Sep 09

AOL

#841 Nov 17, 2009
Almost Speechless wrote:
Shouldn't this stuff be discussed inside the church instead of online ??!! I clicked on this discussion because I thought it was something like the church having a Fall Festival or planning something nice...but NO it was a trashing gossip fest ! God Bless you this holiday season and I pray peace upon this church !
It should have been, it could have been, but wasn't allowed.

Since: Nov 09

Beckley, WV

#842 Nov 17, 2009
Im not blind nor am i in denial. And i am a christian granted i am not a prefect one, but i will take up for my church and my church family. This turmoil could happen anywhere. It could have happened while Mark was stil here, let me ask you this. What if it did happen while he was here. would you still say the same things? or would you turn al this around and think it was the devil trying to break everyone apart.
mi scusi

Norwich, VT

#843 Nov 17, 2009
noonewillknow wrote:
To the one speaking in italian, please excuse or something like that. anyway. I am still there, and will continue to be there, nothing you guys will say will make me leave. I know where I am supposed to be, and that is there with the rest of the God loving congergation. Now if you dont like it there then thats on you. I really dont care. But you need to stop running your mouths and be happy where you are and start focusing on the new church and quit focusing on what and who you left behind. you guys left it for a reason and that was because of what yiou think is going on, well your not there anymore so do us all a favor and stop dragging this out. Im staying at FWC and will continue to sand by pastor Ken and the rest of our church, God Bless.
You are abslotuely free to attend church wherever you'd like. I'm certainly not trying to dissuade you. It's between you and God. If you have weighed all the allegations and have found no merit, then you are probably in the right place.

Just because I have left FWC does not mean that I do not still care about it and all that it used to stand for. The church's deterioration over the last year and a half is grievous indeed.
fyi

Beckley, WV

#844 Nov 17, 2009
SHELZ wrote:
<quoted text>
You guys are all very carnal “Christians.” How can you stand to even look at yourselves in the mirror knowing that you are ridiculing a family the way that you are. You talk about sin and what not but you are all on here running your mouths about other people, pretty sure that is gossip and is a sin. Why don’t you take a look in the mirror and worry about yourselves instead of worrying about other people. When the day come you will all be Judge by God himself. And I would hate to be the one in the shoes of those who are going again their authority, not only that but a MAN OF GOD.
You may have not noticed but .. all the men "of God" (in leadership) have already left the building!
BELIEVE DAT

Oak Hill, WV

#845 Nov 17, 2009
Three days ago there was a little boy that was setting on a bench by the side of the road. He was a little boy and had nothing but his little dog skippy. He was waiting on the bus to pick him up. He had bought a one way ticket to africa. Which by the way have you noticed the politics in africa lately? They are doing really great things for those little black babies. Anyway, back to the story.... He got on the bus and sit down beside a man... Did I mention that the bus was a grayhound? they have awesome rates for long distance trips.... Any way, The bus never made it to africa. Which for those of you who are reading this knows that it is impossible for a bus to drive to africa. That is all =)

Since: Nov 09

Beckley, WV

#846 Nov 17, 2009
yes, people have left, but people have also came. do u not justify that? can YOU not see that?
fyi

Beckley, WV

#847 Nov 17, 2009
noonewillknow wrote:
Ok for the people who dont even go to the church you guys need to lay off. your not there to know or understand whats even going on. Pastor Ken is a wonderful man of God, the people who left are no diciples of God as they claim to be. They may think they are but if they truly were they would be there no matter what, and not try to get the man fired. Ken has done nothing wrong in the church, and those people need to see it. The people who left are mad because when Mark was there they got chosen to do everything, because they had "money" or kissed butt, yes, Pastor Ken does not get to visit everyone that is hospitalized but he tries his hardest, there is too many people in the church to visit them all. That is why he has assistant pastors and deacons, but the deacons he had let him down because they werent in charge anymore. the people that are now at the church are the true men and women of God and will stand by Pastor Ken No matter what.
wow, you are blind! might as well tell pkw bye because he is history!!!! he, and his ohio bunch are outta there!...

Since: Nov 09

Beckley, WV

#848 Nov 17, 2009
So are you saying Pastor Tony is not a man of God, Nor Ken, Nor Steve?, Nor the retired pastors remaining? I think this is just weeding out all the hipocrytes and the non believers and we will prosper in the end. Blunt, but true.

Since: Nov 09

Beckley, WV

#849 Nov 17, 2009
we will see who comes out in the end. see ya round fyi. oh, and fyi, do u realize that i could be someone you see on a daily basis? we could be the best of frieds when we see one another but have total different views on this. just something to think about.
fyi

Beckley, WV

#850 Nov 17, 2009
noonewillknow wrote:
How can you sit there and say this is bogus when i have seen what was said!! dont you sit there and lie! you who claim to be men and women of God!! your just trying to cover ur butts now! and yes i do know for a fact that they said that! i listend to them admit it! Now call me a liar again.
LIAR! You heard NO SUCH THING!
WOW

Roanoke, VA

#851 Nov 17, 2009
See its obvious some of you havnt been going to FWC for long. "noonewillknow" Do you not know what happend to the pastor before pastor M??? He was removed also because of issues similar to this. If pastor M did this I would feel the same way as I do about pastor K. I really hate all of this. I dont care who the pastor was before this but the church was in alot better shape before PKW came. This church was made by the elders of this church. They made this church into a huge place of worship. Why do we need a man to come in and think he needs to change things from the glory the church had before. He is wanting to totally change the face of the church. That was not needed at FWC.
fyi

Beckley, WV

#852 Nov 17, 2009
noonewillknow wrote:
To the one speaking in italian, please excuse or something like that. anyway. I am still there, and will continue to be there, nothing you guys will say will make me leave. I know where I am supposed to be, and that is there with the rest of the God loving congergation. Now if you dont like it there then thats on you. I really dont care. But you need to stop running your mouths and be happy where you are and start focusing on the new church and quit focusing on what and who you left behind. you guys left it for a reason and that was because of what yiou think is going on, well your not there anymore so do us all a favor and stop dragging this out. Im staying at FWC and will continue to sand by pastor Ken and the rest of our church, God Bless.
question: when he has to leave are you gonna follow or stay at FWC?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Beckley Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
lennoxx?????????????? 4 hr Kimmy 50
Nails in Beaver Area 8 hr Tim the Plumer 2
Cute lady 10 hr Painter 17
little robert the biggest cry baby in Fayette c... 12 hr Robert the Rock 6
Create your own Forum (Jun '15) 13 hr I no everything 4,169
Upside-down flag patches on army uniforms. (Aug '13) 15 hr Louis 18
pine lodge nursing home (Jul '11) 15 hr Louis 40

Beckley Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Beckley Mortgages