im considering a career/degree in psychology any opinions?

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Mountaineer

United States

#2 Sep 26, 2012
rj wrote:
I want to pursue a degree in psychology, any advice for this area?
If you're interested in making a comfortable living, don't quit before Ph.D.
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do not waste your time

Charleston, WV

#4 Sep 27, 2012
A Master's degree don't pay about 16,000 to 20,000 in West Virginia. That is 6 years of education.
get the facts

Oak Hill, WV

#5 Sep 27, 2012
do not waste your time wrote:
A Master's degree don't pay about 16,000 to 20,000 in West Virginia. That is 6 years of education.
Starting pay in the beckley area for a masters is about 34k. There are job openings with the VA in other areas that start at 54k.
lostball

Beckley, WV

#6 Sep 30, 2012
the advance in psyththropic mediations would not be a plus for your field. this kind of "rent a buddy" mental health treatment will end in the next 20 years, IMO.
chocolate covered nuts

Beckley, WV

#7 Sep 30, 2012
Most people I know who work in the mental health field are certified nut cases themself. Most have a history of alcoholism or drug abuse, a few DUIs behind them and have become so jaded and twisted they actually believe their own lies. Have worked with quite a few who have no business dabbling in other people's lives because they are nuts themself. One woman I know who works in child psychology has the most mixed up kids on earth. Like I said, after a while they start to believe their own lies. Better be very grounded and stable if you enter this profession. The suicide and burn out rate is unbelievable. They do not make much money but want to be looked at like they are a doctor. Judging from the ones I know, I worry about their clients.
chocolate covered nuts

Beckley, WV

#8 Sep 30, 2012
get the facts wrote:
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Starting pay in the beckley area for a masters is about 34k. There are job openings with the VA in other areas that start at 54k.
Where do they start at 34k? No where I know of. More like in the 20k to 30k range with some fringes. I was making 38k in the 80s without a masters doing administrative work. Sure not a lot of money when you consider the education required. Of course a lot of them finish their degrees "on line" and it shows. If you see one with a big house and fancy car, you better believe they are milking some man for alimoney. They can't afford much on their own salary.
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psych student

Beckley, WV

#10 Oct 1, 2012
I am getting a bachelor's degree in psychology in a couple of months. But, I am getting my master's in social work so that I will have more opportunities. You can still counsel with the type of master's in social work that I am getting.Bluefield State is a good college and they offer a lot of classes over at Beaver. The classes are interesting. I think that you would like it.
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“Pissed off underwater tiger.”

Level 6

Since: Apr 12

Imitated but never duplicated

#12 Oct 1, 2012
I too am working on the same as psyche student. Social work will present you the easiest transition into paying jobs, be it for the state, hospitals, ect. However know this most people who go into social work do not stick with it long because it is too easy to get disenfranchised and start assuming the worst of people.

The golden rule of longevity with psychology is to understand that the people you see only represent a small fraction of all the people. So no matter how many times you see the same problem, those problems are actually only 1/100 type ratio.

And one thing I eventually had to accept is honestly 95% of all psychology is bullshit. The science of it is more the tinkering with body chemistry that we really do not fully understand and use testing measures that conflict with typical scientific method procedures.

As for schools, I would not do the UofL or ITT tech type schools. Honestly most schools have extensive online programs and realistically Just through your associates the only "campus" class you would need to take would be public speaking. So even a school like Concorde would have what you need in the means you need it and really are going to typically be cheaper over all.

Good luck with it all.
psych student

Beckley, WV

#13 Oct 2, 2012
rj wrote:
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Going for your phd?
I doubt it.
low salary

Bronx, NY

#14 Oct 2, 2012
chocolate covered nuts wrote:
<quoted text>Where do they start at 34k? No where I know of. More like in the 20k to 30k range with some fringes. I was making 38k in the 80s without a masters doing administrative work. Sure not a lot of money when you consider the education required. Of course a lot of them finish their degrees "on line" and it shows. If you see one with a big house and fancy car, you better believe they are milking some man for alimoney. They can't afford much on their own salary.
Yes, the salary is low. I know people with psych, social work, criminal justice type degrees who barely scrape by. Some people who tell you inflated salary may have an ulterior motive, like getting you to attend a program they work for. The OOH online also inflated salaries because it averages places where the costs of living are very high so the salary looks good. Best advice is to call HR offices where you would consider working and ask what starting salaries are for your degree and experience.
for real

Danville, WV

#15 Oct 2, 2012
Go ask Capitalist Pig, Informed Citizen and JamieWV - they're psychos
Lana

Beckley, WV

#16 Oct 3, 2012
If the person on here is who I think it is.....you can do it. I'm sure of it. You are the most caring, intellectual, deep person I have ever met. Our brief time together is something I will forever cherish. I'm here when you need me.
can do it

Bronx, NY

#17 Oct 3, 2012
The degree requirements are only slightly challenging fir a person of average IQ, so you CAN do it. The question is after you have spent/borrowed the money, will you make enough to live well?
MSU had a great program

Hurricane, WV

#18 Oct 4, 2012
I am so sorry that you are now unable to take advantage of MSUs program. They had world-class faculty in their psych programs. I am sure you would have been challenged and had no problem finding gainful employment following graduation. So sad that they are going away!
Seriously

Hurricane, WV

#19 Oct 4, 2012
VirVoX Populi wrote:
I too am working on the same as psyche student. Social work will present you the easiest transition into paying jobs, be it for the state, hospitals, ect. However know this most people who go into social work do not stick with it long because it is too easy to get disenfranchised and start assuming the worst of people.
The golden rule of longevity with psychology is to understand that the people you see only represent a small fraction of all the people. So no matter how many times you see the same problem, those problems are actually only 1/100 type ratio.
And one thing I eventually had to accept is honestly 95% of all psychology is bullshit. The science of it is more the tinkering with body chemistry that we really do not fully understand and use testing measures that conflict with typical scientific method procedures.
As for schools, I would not do the UofL or ITT tech type schools. Honestly most schools have extensive online programs and realistically Just through your associates the only "campus" class you would need to take would be public speaking. So even a school like Concorde would have what you need in the means you need it and really are going to typically be cheaper over all.
Good luck with it all.
Consider going to college. Even an intro to psych course would provide enough information for you to see that it is a valuable discipline. As a psychologist, I have been able to make a major difference and use a great deal of models to inform my practice.

“Pissed off underwater tiger.”

Level 6

Since: Apr 12

Imitated but never duplicated

#20 Oct 4, 2012
Seriously wrote:
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Consider going to college. Even an intro to psych course would provide enough information for you to see that it is a valuable discipline. As a psychologist, I have been able to make a major difference and use a great deal of models to inform my practice.
If directed at me. I am currently enrolled, about to obtain associates, with focus on humanities pushing into first social work then psychology. I have extensive psyche transcript for AA. Intro to psyche, Intro to social work, Sociology, Ethics, philosophy, Addictions, abnormal psyche (currently working on), Psy of aging, Aspects of death, Developmental, Application of statistics, experimental, Dev of social welfare and crisis intervention off the top of my head. Honestly the more I study it the more it becomes clear that most of the actual "talking cure" is a lot of common sense and rent a buddy as it was put earlier.

All that makes it a legitimate science is the modification of body/brain chemistry and its effects to do so. However true Psychiatry service (which requires MD) makes up a smaller portion of the whole realm of psychology, which a lot of people are not prepared for the investment of going through the MD course because if they were capable of completing MD, they would be able to make so much more money in other medical fields where there is infinitely more need.

Perhaps I am already jaded, Or perhaps I try to approach it with a realistic outlook of what it is.

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