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Flake: Trump rallies reflect 'spasms of a dying Republican party'

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Jonathan Bernstein

Atlanta, GA

#2 Dec 25, 2017
How much longer will the Liar in Chief be in Longer

1. Christopher Federico on public opinion and the tax bill. Excellent. I'll add something I neglected to mention in my item earlier this week on the topic of those who benefit not realizing it: That's exactly what happened with the Obama-era tax cuts in 2009. It will be different this time; Obama didn't talk much about cutting taxes, while Trump has and certainly will continue to do so. That may have real effects. But the point here is that many of us don't actually know whether we're paying a little more or a little less in taxes. And as Federico explains, we're apt to be upset if we think others did better. In fact, it seems quite possible to me that Trump's rhetoric encouraging citizens to believe that others are the ones really benefiting from government action could backfire on him here by encouraging feelings of relative deprivation even when it's Trump in the White House.

2. Vanessa Williamson at the Monkey Cage on the history of Republicans and tax cuts for the wealthy.

3. Josh Huder on what's happened to the Senate in 2017.

4. Margot Sanger-Katz on the Affordable Care Act without the individual mandate.

5. Matt O'Brien on Republican dishonesty about the tax bill. Deserved. The idea that Trump is personally going to pay more is a joke, for example, and yet he and others have claimed it repeatedly.

6. Since I wrote earlier this week on ways in which Trump doesn't have many achievements this year compared with a typical president, I'd better link to Nick Tabor's list of what has changed. Fifty-five changes sounds like a lot -- but I expect that similar lists from other presidential first years would be at least as long. And that still leaves the question of how much credit (or blame) Trump himself deserves for many of these items. My view: Trump seemingly randomly selected a handful of engaged people to head some departments and agencies, and those political appointees are implementing a lot of the Republican agenda, without many of the normal constraints a typical White House would place on, for example, acting on unpopular portions of that agenda. Elsewhere, not much is going on.

7. And Ben Collins on how some congressional interns amuse themselves.
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Melvin

Edinburg, VA

#5 Dec 25, 2017
The Dems are underestimating Trumpís support. I personally will NEVER vote for another Democrat because of the disrespect they have shown to a US President. Not to mention all of the corruption that has been brought into the light. The Dems and the DNC are eat up with corruption.
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bob

Beckley, WV

#8 Dec 27, 2017
Melvin wrote:
The Dems are underestimating Trumpís support. I personally will NEVER vote for another Democrat because of the disrespect they have shown to a US President. Not to mention all of the corruption that has been brought into the light. The Dems and the DNC are eat up with corruption.
AMEN
Steak

United States

#9 Dec 27, 2017
Jonathan Bernstein wrote:
How much longer will the Liar in Chief be in Longer

1. Christopher Federico on public opinion and the tax bill. Excellent. I'll add something I neglected to mention in my item earlier this week on the topic of those who benefit not realizing it: That's exactly what happened with the Obama-era tax cuts in 2009. It will be different this time; Obama didn't talk much about cutting taxes, while Trump has and certainly will continue to do so. That may have real effects. But the point here is that many of us don't actually know whether we're paying a little more or a little less in taxes. And as Federico explains, we're apt to be upset if we think others did better. In fact, it seems quite possible to me that Trump's rhetoric encouraging citizens to believe that others are the ones really benefiting from government action could backfire on him here by encouraging feelings of relative deprivation even when it's Trump in the White House.

2. Vanessa Williamson at the Monkey Cage on the history of Republicans and tax cuts for the wealthy.

3. Josh Huder on what's happened to the Senate in 2017.

4. Margot Sanger-Katz on the Affordable Care Act without the individual mandate.

5. Matt O'Brien on Republican dishonesty about the tax bill. Deserved. The idea that Trump is personally going to pay more is a joke, for example, and yet he and others have claimed it repeatedly.

6. Since I wrote earlier this week on ways in which Trump doesn't have many achievements this year compared with a typical president, I'd better link to Nick Tabor's list of what has changed. Fifty-five changes sounds like a lot -- but I expect that similar lists from other presidential first years would be at least as long. And that still leaves the question of how much credit (or blame) Trump himself deserves for many of these items. My view: Trump seemingly randomly selected a handful of engaged people to head some departments and agencies, and those political appointees are implementing a lot of the Republican agenda, without many of the normal constraints a typical White House would place on, for example, acting on unpopular portions of that agenda. Elsewhere, not much is going on.

7. And Ben Collins on how some congressional interns amuse themselves.
Blah blah - got nothing else better to do than to make stuff up
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ardith

United States

#11 Dec 27, 2017
Everything Trump says is on video, or on twitter. The criminal has given himself away a thousands times. He is a racketeer, a thug, a grifter, a thief and the worst liar in worldwide history of politics. Trump holds the Worldwide Liar Award!! Republicans are so proud.
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bob

Beckley, WV

#14 Dec 28, 2017
ardith wrote:
Everything Trump says is on video, or on twitter. The criminal has given himself away a thousands times. He is a racketeer, a thug, a grifter, a thief and the worst liar in worldwide history of politics. Trump holds the Worldwide Liar Award!! Republicans are so proud.
and Hillary is better?
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Mail Carrier

Jamestown, TN

#17 Dec 29, 2017
part time golfer /part time pretending president,also the liar in chief.

Washington Post data reporter uncovered a stunningly hypocritical error message on Trump's website

Presumptive Republican nominee for US president Donald Trump visits Trump International Golf Links on June 25, 2016 in Aberdeen, Scotland. The US presidential hopeful was in Scotland for the reopening of the refurbished Open venue golf resort Trump Turnberry which has undergone an eight month refurbishment as part of an investment thought to be worth in the region of two hundred million pounds.

Donald Trump, full-time golfer, part-time president

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Donald Trump has spent a stunning amount of time and taxpayer money playing golf. In one year alone, American taxpayers have spent close to an astonishing $92 million to ferry him to and from his privately owned golf courses. As the graphic below illustrates, Donald Trump has spent more time golfing and vacationing than any other president in modern American history. Itís not even close!

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Mike

Morgantown, WV

#19 Dec 30, 2017
Melvin wrote:
The Dems are underestimating Trumpís support. I personally will NEVER vote for another Democrat because of the disrespect they have shown to a US President. Not to mention all of the corruption that has been brought into the light. The Dems and the DNC are eat up with corruption.
AGREE
Mike

Morgantown, WV

#20 Dec 30, 2017
bob wrote:
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AMEN
Must be a nut
Gt FOiA

Oak Hill, WV

#21 Dec 30, 2017
bob wrote:
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and Hillary is better?
Can someone explain why conservatives just cannot even fathom the reality here? NOBODY wanted her. She knew nobody (that wasn't making 6-7 figures annually anyway) wanted her. Like Romney in the prior election, She failed because she assumed that after stepping aside for the black man that it was finally her turn. So knowing she did not actually have the support, she refused to let it stop her and kept running despite people telling her to step aside again and she did not care in the slightest that she was the second most hated candidate in the election.

Look, Someone else summed it up far better than I can. If you are a conservative, understand this is how your opposition saw what went down last year.

Worst event of 2016; Donald Trump won.
Best event of 2016; Hillary Clinton lost.
That is how all non Trump supporters (because there were also a lot of Republicans who didn't vote for Trump either.) saw the election. NO ONE wanted to be with her.

So for the love of God will you people please knock it off already? Quit bringing that clueless gynoceros lost up like anyone is actually supposed to get upset by it. It has been a year and we are still seeing it everywhere, conservatives are waving it around like they just captured the flag. It is not in any way insulting to anyone. Just because people wanted a candidate with experience, relevant skills, that could think forward and understands how to set and accomplish large scale, long term goals that would break the trend and actually put the people first, does not mean they wanted an idiotic dried up , man hating, self entitled DINO loon.

No more than they were going to accept an incompetent, family entitled, silver spoon sucking, trust fund, man child, that has no concept of "No", who's only success ever earned in his life has been living off the interest drawn from his daddies investments, finding new and mind numbing ways to humiliate himself (and now the country) who needs to be taken out into a field to be horse whipped like his daddy should have done ages ago to beat some sense into him before he was able to get to the point of no return to thinking and acting like a normal, sane human being, as an acceptable alternative.

So just understand, if you are still bringing that insipid walking blue waffle up in any context a year after your guy won, not only are you painting yourself in gallons upon gallons of stupid, you are giving that pant suit wearing infected hemorrhoid just a little more attention which is why she keeps coming back like Satans whack a weasel. Rest assured NONE of us want that. So stop bringing her up so she can finally go somewhere and die of neglect. She is every bit as much of an attention \v/|-| 0re as Trump is and she absorbs energy from bad attention just as much as she does from good.

Everybody has LONG been done with that ride and is dying to get off of it. So why do you nitwits keep feeding the machine quarters? Give it a rest. How about every time you feel the urge to brag about beating Cliton, instead you brag about the things he has accomplished and what can be conclusively be proven to be the direct result of his governmental actions.

And before any of you can rub both your brain cells together, My "long" post you aren't going to read is not proof I am in any way bothered by anything in the election. My response is just my nature because I can't help but to feel pity on dumb, helpless animals.

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