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Beckley, WV

#41 Dec 27, 2012
John Eight Seven wrote:
I wanted to add to my previous post. Im not trying to seem like a know it all or perfect Christian. Im a man who has plenty of faults. However, I one day saw that I was wearing a mask. I loved to gossip, judge others, and all the while would hide my wrong. God saved me and helped me to love others. When I die I don't want the dash between birth date and death date to represent a man of judgement, pride, and evil. I dont want to be known as a man who ran everyone down on topix, twitter, and facebook. I want to be known as a man who loved, worked hard, and gave his best. In Gods eyes I want to be seen as a faithful, loving, serving, and obedient man.
We all make mistakes and sin. I'm not telling people your going to hell if you get on here. I juar want Christians to open their eyes and be true Christians.
True Christians SPEAK THE TRUTH to their neighbors and WARN BOTH the Wicked and the Righteous..we are Commanded of God to do so.Sometimes it is through forums such as this that warning and truth is known.You can call it gossip if you wish, but the same thing is done in every building YOU call a church and everytime YOU mention anyones name to another Person. And I suggest YOU learn more of the Gospel Truth and scripture.WE as Gods people are to Judge these matters among Gods people and sadly it takes posting on forums to get to them cause they refuse to speak to some in person.What ? Know you not we shall judge angels , and we can not Judge the matters that pertain to this life ? Shall we allow him who is least esteemed to Judge then ? I speak to your shame.
There was a great wrong done among people who claim to be of God at the FWC.If they were of Him, then at least they would do the works He did as well, not deny them and then claim and make excuses for not doing so.
People like me deal across this country with ones like those children and parents who have been beaten and battered and bruised by the actions and deeds of people who claim to be of God and leave so many broken and in pain and NO one is there to restore them.They blame God because they deem those people of God.SO before you say it is mere Gossip, I suggest some learning and understanding by the True Spirit of God to know the difference.
And also know this same thing is happening in every man made religious idol they call church and it makes no difference what name is above it's door.
When the people of God start acknowledging Gods True word and His True spirit then things will change among them, but untill then people like me and many others will continue to WARN , CRY ALOUD, the Real Truth of scripture.Inspite of those who refuse to adhere to them and call it anything but !!

But know this one thing.God shall judge the matter and already has and He knows the Heart of man and everyone Reaps what They sow.

Meanwhile We will continue to WARN those whom we are Told to Warn By the Spirit of God, not the assumptions or speculations of men who think silence is justice and do not realize silence is agreement.And as it is written do not be a partaker of another mans sin...when you refuse to speak up and speak truth and set in your silence you agree with them and help them do the wickedness and worse your refusal to warn them places their blood on YOUR hands and you will answer for it before God Himself and not man.

Now YOU know the Truth and have been warned.It is all on your own head now, as well.
John Eight Seven

Springfield, NJ

#42 Dec 28, 2012
So it's my place as a Christian to judge matters and warn people of evil. Before I respond, YOU made the statement that the parents and children have been beaten, battered, and bruised by the actions and deeds of I'm assuming the FWC church. I haven't seen one person with a black eye, busted lip, bruised body, or broken bones as a result of what happened at FWC. Now I do believe people have been hurt emotionally by things that have been done. I know some who have and I pray healing in their lives. However, I'm sure that the pastor and faithful members(many who have done no wrong) have been hurt because people have chosen to get on a topix forum and participate in spreading RUMORS. Many people do not have facts. They were not personally involved in any of the FWC matters, nor was I. How can one say that something is absolute truth when it comes from someone you know or you read it on a forum? If I was there and saw with my very own eyes that the pastor was doing wrong, then I would have the responsibility to go to the deacon council. If they took no action, then I would go to the state overseer of the denomination. If he did nothing, then I could contact the international office. Maybe I can go to local authorities or legal advisors and see what they can do. If nothing is done by any of these people then I've done all I can do. Its in God's hands. it is not my place to get on topix, facebook, twitter, and other sites and tell everyone what I saw.
Jesus gives us two commands and that is to love the Lord your God with all of your heart, all of your soul, all of your strength, and all of your mindand your neighbor as yourself. The scripture reference is Luke 10:27. Jesus didnt say judge thy neighbor, hate thy neighbor, ridicule thy neighbor, etc. Love is correction and truth but not judgement, ridicule, slander.

Spoken Truth, you do have the right to believe how you want to believe. Maybe we interpret things differently. However, you do not have the final say on judgement day. I will speak the truth but I will not bash any Pastor, congregation member, deacon, etc on a public forum or media outlet. Even if I know the 100% fact truth I will not use this as a way to expose it. You said that God gives this public forum to us as a way to spread truth. This forum, this thing called topix was formed by man. It has turned into a site used to degrade and to demean people. Take time to research this site and most forums. It is not informative, helpful news. It is gossip and defamation of character. Topix is not of God. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to tell me your interpretation of the truth. I believe that if I tell people the truth through love, love God with all my heart, soul, strength, and mind, and I love my neighbor as myself then I will inherit the kingdom of God. I don't feel that I will go to hell by choosing to not say that Pastor so and so or that this person or that person did this on a topix forum.
I do completely agree that gossip takes place in all churches, but I don't agree with that. It shouldn't take place anywhere. I am ok with people getting on here and saying "I feel this matter at FWC should be investagated" or "if the things that I read or hear are true then this church needs a change." I'm not ok with people saying "Pastor Ken Wright did this" or "the deacon council said". Im not ok with people making statements based off of what they heard or making judgements off of statements made on topix, facebook, etc. If Pastor Ken did this or that then you need to get off of here, go to him, the deacons, the denominational leadership, and handle it that way. It is a free country and anyone can say what they want, but as a Christian I am to obey Gods Word and God does not approve of gossip and me telling things that I didn't see with my own two eyes.
Spoken Truth wrote:
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John Eight Seven

Springfield, NJ

#43 Dec 28, 2012
So it's my place as a Christian to judge matters and warn people of evil. Before I respond, YOU made the statement that the parents and children have been beaten, battered, and bruised by the actions and deeds of I'm assuming the FWC church. I haven't seen one person with a black eye, busted lip, bruised body, or broken bones as a result of what happened at FWC. Now I do believe people have been hurt emotionally by things that have been done. I know some who have and I pray healing in their lives. However, I'm sure that the pastor and faithful members(many who have done no wrong) have been hurt because people have chosen to get on a topix forum and participate in spreading RUMORS. Many people do not have facts. They were not personally involved in any of the FWC matters, nor was I. How can one say that something is absolute truth when it comes from someone you know or you read it on a forum? If I was there and saw with my very own eyes that the pastor was doing wrong, then I would have the responsibility to go to the deacon council. If they took no action, then I would go to the state overseer of the denomination. If he did nothing, then I could contact the international office. Maybe I can go to local authorities or legal advisors and see what they can do. If nothing is done by any of these people then I've done all I can do. Its in God's hands. it is not my place to get on topix, facebook, twitter, and other sites and tell everyone what I saw.
Jesus gives us two commands and that is to love the Lord your God with all of your heart, all of your soul, all of your strength, and all of your mindand your neighbor as yourself. The scripture reference is Luke 10:27. Jesus didnt say judge thy neighbor, hate thy neighbor, ridicule thy neighbor, etc. Love is correction and truth but not judgement, ridicule, slander.

Spoken Truth, you do have the right to believe how you want to believe. Maybe we interpret things differently. However, you do not have the final say on judgement day. I will speak the truth but I will not bash any Pastor, congregation member, deacon, etc on a public forum or media outlet. Even if I know the 100% fact truth I will not use this as a way to expose it. You said that God gives this public forum to us as a way to spread truth. This forum, this thing called topix was formed by man. It has turned into a site used to degrade and to demean people. Take time to research this site and most forums. It is not informative, helpful news. It is gossip and defamation of character. Topix is not of God. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to tell me your interpretation of the truth. I believe that if I tell people the truth through love, love God with all my heart, soul, strength, and mind, and I love my neighbor as myself then I will inherit the kingdom of God. I don't feel that I will go to hell by choosing to not say that Pastor so and so or that this person or that person did this on a topix forum.
I do completely agree that gossip takes place in all churches, but I don't agree with that. It shouldn't take place anywhere. I am ok with people getting on here and saying "I feel this matter at FWC should be investagated" or "if the things that I read or hear are true then this church needs a change." I'm not ok with people saying "Pastor Ken Wright did this" or "the deacon council said". Im not ok with people making statements based off of what they heard or making judgements off of statements made on topix, facebook, etc. If Pastor Ken did this or that then you need to get off of here, go to him, the deacons, the denominational leadership, and handle it that way. It is a free country and anyone can say what they want, but as a Christian I am to obey Gods Word and God does not approve of gossip and me telling things that I didn't see with my own two eyes.
pastor leaving

Beckley, WV

#44 Dec 29, 2012
I have heard from multiple people that the pastor has looked into leaving, but has not found a suitable job yet. He may have a difficult time finding a job he likes with all the controversy surrounding his ministry.

The most trustworthy source told me in confidence, so I would never reveal who he is, but he is someone in a position to know.
If true

Beckley, WV

#45 Dec 29, 2012
peopelamaze me wrote:
THey didn't force kids to public school. They sent them to Greater Beckley and paid for the tuiotion difference and the books. NO OUT OF POCKET FOR THE PARENTS.
Idiots, kjonw your facts.
So they took kids who were being taught the Bible through Church of God teachings and to a Baptist church that does not believe in any of them and paid their way ? And that call that helping the kids and furthing missions ? Ha Ha Ha ha..Now If that is true what you say...Then WE know now without fact that Pastor is NO man of God at all ...they would be better off in Public school and away from him!!
Spoken Truth

Beckley, WV

#46 Dec 29, 2012
John Eight Seven wrote:
SO you do not see bruises, no battering, not harm , no foul ? All you see is what you see with your natural eye and because you do not see busted lips, black eyes nothing happened but maybe some feelings got hurt ? And call yourself oF God ?
Humm, how should I respond to that ? But also Topix is not of God cause man did it ? Gee, your parents got together and created you, so was God not involved ? You live in a house did God not provide ? you eat food, or drive a car and breathe air even, But God did not provide any of them ? And you say Your a Believer in the Lord ?
You have never set with a child, man or woman who have attended a church were they were lead to believe certian things by it's leaders only to be basically tossed out and all that was taught them and shown them was torn away in a moment by the ones who claim to be Lead of God, and YOU think the worse they endured was hurt feelings ? Then I suggest to you Mr John Eight Seven, you need to open that BOOK you claim to like to try and quote and READ just what Jesus said about those who do such things to His Children ? Did God lie when He said Woe unto the Pastors that scatter His Sheep? Or if one of his was offended, how it would be best for them a mill stone be hung around their neck and cast into the sea? But what I learned by Church going folk who try and pretend to Know God and yet have No wisdom of Him they speak elegantly and with sweet words that tickle ears and flatter the hearer, but they have nothing and are full of dead mens bones and a great looking cup outwardly but inward nasty and dirty.
God used a donkey to warn the Prophet but I guess that to was not God ? He even used a dirty bird to feed Elijah but of course God was not in it ? He used a sinner to bare Jesus, but God was not in it either perhaps by your standards ? God uses anything and anyone for His Glory and to get the Truth out.From the Internet forums , to radio, TV and street corners...but I guess God is not able to get beyond your plush padded church pew to use anything but the soft side of your seat ? Maybe if you got off your seat and on your knees you would wise up and see Truth and instead of thinking you know what you know not.
And I will say again, what happened at FWC as in many other places was and IS Not of God.In fact Sir I will boldly go further and tell you what people do in man made buildings they call Church is NOT of God. For I tell you a Truth a God who says "The Most High dwells not in temples made with hands ", why then would he say build one and attend it ?
So I tell you what you keep your nice cymbal sounding words and I will continue to sound the Alarm and do what I was told to do and Yes at the End we both shall stand before a Righteous and Holy God.
HE will Judge the matter and we will then see who followed His Word and obeyed it or who made excuses for it and keep it silent .

And one further thing IF topix is just a gossip sight and you oppose it being so..Why are you here ? Seems to me a man who does not like it sure finds ways to be a part of it. And everyone knows what they say about excuses..everyone has one Right ? There ya go !!

Now go gossip with that. While I continue telling those who desire the Truth , The Real truth.

And help the battered, broken and bruised , While the blind and foolish people like you watch them fade away and never take to heart the harm they have endured nor ever try and restore them.
A Real Shepard(Pastor ) Leads, Feeds, Protects and Restores and if he fails at anyone of those with the sheep, he is not a good shepard.Thank God HE is the Only True Shepard of the flock and it is not man called ones we have to depend up on and especially not blind men who rather stay in darkness of self-righteousness then to admit they are blind and can not see and blame others who Can !!
Could it be true

Beckley, WV

#47 Dec 30, 2012
Looks like it is true after all
Come on

Springfield, NJ

#48 Dec 30, 2012
Get a life..
BAD

Beckley, WV

#49 Dec 30, 2012
What was his reason for leaving? Did he say?
Get a life

United States

#50 Dec 30, 2012
If u were really part of the discussion today you would have been there to know... If you are a member and didn't make it, contact him and find out, not a message board where lies and gossip are spread. Otherwise you are just interested in gossip and stirring it up. Move on and get a life. If your only interest is to run your mouth and further speak ill will about someone then you have issues. Grow up.
wild

Washington, DC

#51 Dec 30, 2012
Hope not. His daughters are hot.
You have Blinders on

Beckley, WV

#52 Dec 30, 2012
QUOTE Get a Life-
Blind leading the Blind....and they all have fallen in the ditch at FWC.
2 posts removed

Since: Aug 12

Beckley, WV

#55 Dec 31, 2012
Stay in your Kingdom (Lucy Fer)....you can't have mine......or our Heart's .....or our Mind's ...or Our Love .....you stay where you were sent.

You spew and spit the hate....they are just deciding... and changing the mind as to where to hear the message.

Goodbye :)
Sooooo

Oak Hill, WV

#56 Dec 31, 2012
pastor leaving wrote:
I have heard from multiple people that the pastor has looked into leaving, but has not found a suitable job yet. He may have a difficult time finding a job he likes with all the controversy surrounding his ministry.
The most trustworthy source told me in confidence, so I would never reveal who he is, but he is someone in a position to know.
After what has happened at FWC, I don't think any church would want him as a pastor.
Sooooo

Oak Hill, WV

#57 Dec 31, 2012
If true wrote:
<quoted text>
So they took kids who were being taught the Bible through Church of God teachings and to a Baptist church that does not believe in any of them and paid their way ? And that call that helping the kids and furthing missions ? Ha Ha Ha ha..Now If that is true what you say...Then WE know now without fact that Pastor is NO man of God at all ...they would be better off in Public school and away from him!!
I will add that the Christian school many students are at now also has students who have been expelled from public schools.....
In the know

Beckley, WV

#58 Jan 1, 2013
Beckley will be much better off with him gone. He needs to go back to being a used car salesman.
well

Beckley, WV

#59 Jan 1, 2013
He never left. He is still the pastor.
Sooooo

Oak Hill, WV

#60 Jan 1, 2013
well wrote:
He never left. He is still the pastor.
He's leaving. Announced it Sunday.
Susan McGuffin

Ardsley, NY

#61 Jan 3, 2013
I used to attend there and found a new church home shortly after he came on as pastor. Did he say why he's leaving?
Reporter

Beckley, WV

#62 Jan 3, 2013
In a Beckley Magazine, it quotes Pastor Ken Wright as saying," He's especially proud of the church's childrens ministry" and goes on to say,"We have a lot of young families as members and people are sometimes intimidated by our size,but when they visit us,they see we're a very loving and giving church."

Proud of the cildrens ministry and a loving and giving place , but throws the children under the bus as it were and gives them the boot ?

I learned at a very young age that a person is only as good as their word.If they say one thing and do another, they are called Liars and two faced.
So I have an issue with whats being said and then what is actually being done at FWC . Many here have defended the actions, many speaking against it, all I can say is I hope everyone repents and makes it right with God and each other amongst that group, cause it is evident it has divided what was already an unstable environment .

But unless the Truth is told and the lies stopped, it will forever be a meaningless place and a rumor mill.

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