Possible Lawsuit ---- Know Pain Clinic

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unknown

Bridgeport, WV

#1 Oct 1, 2009
the clinic did everyone that goes there very wrong. I here there is going to be a lawsuit, has anyone else heard this?
Look Deeper

Beckley, WV

#2 Oct 3, 2009
Yes, its in the news. However some other facts need to be considered. The doctor had not been paid in a long time. That is not his fault, and we did away with slavery a long time ago. I cannot blame him as I would not work for free either. The clinic had a long history of problems, from a supervisor pulling a gun on employees to holding pay for other workers. The WV Board of Medicine might be thinking of charging the doctor with patient abandonment, but they themselves could have prevented this by allowing a legislative bill to be passed last session giving Physician Assistant expanded prescriptive privileges as they can in most other states. But the board fought that bill with powerful paid lobbyists. So they bear some fault. And the Board of Medicine can't force someone to work as a slave, either - no matter how big they think they are. The clinic owner, Mr. Graham, and anyone else on the corporate charter would be most directly responsible. If there is any issue of abandonment, the onus must stop with the big boss. By abandoning his doctor-employee, he indirectly created the chain of events that led to patient abandonment. The Board of Medicine needs to be accountable as well, as they had the opportunity to support expanded Rx powers for PAs and killed the bill. That had negative effects for lots of patients in WV, and they knew it when they did it.
Direct or indirect, it doesn't matter. The outcome of the crime is still the same. So, at first glance it might look like the Dr. was the sinner.. but look a little deeper. Slavery is working without pay. I don't blame him one bit. He gave fair enough warning. How many of you would work 3 months with no pay?
I Know

Beckley, WV

#3 Oct 3, 2009
I don't work for free, neither should this doctor. Dr. Cecil Graham is the responsible party. He has always been a "wannabe" who got in over his head and couldn't pay the bills. He also failed state boards. There are multiple reasons he is no longer living in this area. Let's see...Graham Ranch.......Saddlebred Golf Course......Saddlebred Housing Development....Know Pain Clinic.....all once belonged to him, all flopped and now belong to someone else. You either have a head for business, or you don't. I'm not bashing him, just stating what I know from several people who have worked for him and his former wife.
Reader

United States

#4 Oct 3, 2009
Interesting. A few weeks ago I googled the name of Cecil Graham. His occupation came up listed as investor. Right then and there I wondered where the money from the Know Pain Clinic had been going. What has happened to the patients there is awful but I do not blame Dr. R. at all. As a doctor, Graham's first ethical responsibility was to his patients rather than other investments. Just ain't right.
ME TOO

Nicholasville, KY

#5 Oct 3, 2009
I don't know alot about this facility, but I too said the same thing, that I would not work without pay either. And it is a crying shame that this has happened. "Dr. Rod" as we the patients called him, was a very caring and concerned Doctor. I think it is a shame that they treated him this way. It is very rare that you find a Doctor that you can trust, and I for one feel "abandoned". I will be moving on for treatment after learning of this, so I thank you "I Know".
Stop and think

Beckley, WV

#6 Oct 3, 2009
I have been told several things that caused DR.R to leave .# 1 His wife picked up his pay checks ,and didn't tell him . He is a caring DR. and will be missed. I sure hope they can get things back before long. Doing without the proper pain meds. hurts a person in alot of ways. If you drop to a lower pain med. your body still hurts so what is the best thing to do ? A family DR. will not give you the same meds.as you took before even if you have your chart from the pain clinic. So pain is pain and hard to live with. Hope they reopen soon . Wonder who and how they will call their people back for treatment ? Alot still unknown .Just try to hang in is all we can do .
WOW

Beckley, WV

#7 Oct 3, 2009
Didn't Dr. Graham get into some problems with Raleigh General when he was doing the anathesiology there. Some Dr.s didn't get paid and at least one had just moved to Beckley and ended up without a job. It is just too bad when people like Dr. Graham who have such potential to help so many people make such poor decisions that it affects not only him but many other people in the process.

Just a question? A lawsuit against who and for what? Isn't the clinic a business and businesses do freguently close?
wondering

Sunnyvale, CA

#8 Oct 3, 2009
Yes business do close frequently but when it comes to medical places treating patients especially on the medication these people are on they have to provide patients with a 30 day notice and treat patients for 30 days and taper the patients off there medications no just shut down... It is the state LAWS. It is not Dr. Rods fault he gave his warning notices and should not work for free. It is the clinics and Dr. Grahams responsibility to provide 30 day treat meet but with a sorry administrator that they have it is hard to tell what kinda lies she has told Dr. Graham, board of medicine and there lawyers. She should be investigated cause she is probably embezzling all the money like she did the other 6-7 business they uses to run and then file bankruptcy.
Dawdle

AOL

#9 Oct 4, 2009
My Dr. knew about the pain clinic over a year ago and would not send me there,had heard things,words get around,so they sent me to Charleston. Know of one person that went there and ended up selling. Never checked their blood levels or whatever I'm not for sure.Who's to blame? Guess time will tell.
Genny

Rupert, WV

#10 Oct 5, 2009
I am suprised Cecil kept it going as long as he did. He is a nice guy, he just has no business sense, it more of a con artist sense, or so it seeems.. Is he still married to Suzanne
I Know

Beckley, WV

#11 Oct 5, 2009
Yes, Graham got into trouble with RGH. One of the younger doctors he hired ended up without a job. Some of them went without pay. He and Suzanne split some time ago. I'm with you, Genny, he is no bussinessman!
What the Hey

Nicholasville, KY

#12 Oct 7, 2009
What is going on with this place? I have relatives that went there and now they are in a bad way! Anyone know what's going to happen? Anyone know if they plan to reopen any time soon?
marie

United States

#13 Dec 1, 2009
I Know wrote:
I don't work for free, neither should this doctor. Dr. Cecil Graham is the responsible party. He has always been a "wannabe" who got in over his head and couldn't pay the bills. He also failed state boards. There are multiple reasons he is no longer living in this area. Let's see...Graham Ranch.......Saddlebred Golf Course......Saddlebred Housing Development....Know Pain Clinic.....all once belonged to him, all flopped and now belong to someone else. You either have a head for business, or you don't. I'm not bashing him, just stating what I know from several people who have worked for him and hi

s former wife.
Well I know that Don Muirphy and Shaun Toney liked being cfalled doctor don and doctor Shaun and I know that one of the nurses said they made around 100,000 a year. I think That Don wrote this message and I think that he was writing prescrip[tions and Rodriguez signed whatever he got handed. I think that if the doctor don had prescriptive priveliges the drug dealers in Central America better watch out- they don't know enough to have prescriptive priveliges. Theh didn't go to medical school for 12 years - just 4 or 5 - that is bullshit.
suffering in silence

Brenton, WV

#14 Dec 3, 2009
Stop and think wrote:
I have been told several things that caused DR.R to leave .# 1 His wife picked up his pay checks ,and didn't tell him . He is a caring DR. and will be missed. I sure hope they can get things back before long. Doing without the proper pain meds. hurts a person in alot of ways. If you drop to a lower pain med. your body still hurts so what is the best thing to do ? A family DR. will not give you the same meds.as you took before even if you have your chart from the pain clinic. So pain is pain and hard to live with. Hope they reopen soon . Wonder who and how they will call their people back for treatment ? Alot still unknown .Just try to hang in is all we can do .
They are not going to reopen, I am sorry to tell ya, I am a former patient there, and still not found a doctor to help me. My family doc, my feferring doc, noone to help me.
suffering in silence

Brenton, WV

#15 Dec 3, 2009
WOW wrote:
Didn't Dr. Graham get into some problems with Raleigh General when he was doing the anathesiology there. Some Dr.s didn't get paid and at least one had just moved to Beckley and ended up without a job. It is just too bad when people like Dr. Graham who have such potential to help so many people make such poor decisions that it affects not only him but many other people in the process.
Just a question? A lawsuit against who and for what? Isn't the clinic a business and businesses do freguently close?
The lawyers are filing a medical malpractice lawsuit..
suffering in silence

Brenton, WV

#16 Dec 3, 2009
What the Hey wrote:
What is going on with this place? I have relatives that went there and now they are in a bad way! Anyone know what's going to happen? Anyone know if they plan to reopen any time soon?
No they are not going to re open can anyone tell me where I can find a doctor?? I cant find one, my family doctor or feferring doctor will not help me..Thanks..
informed

Beckley, WV

#17 Dec 5, 2009
marie wrote:
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Well I know that Don Muirphy and Shaun Toney liked being cfalled doctor don and doctor Shaun and I know that one of the nurses said they made around 100,000 a year. I think That Don wrote this message and I think that he was writing prescrip[tions and Rodriguez signed whatever he got handed. I think that if the doctor don had prescriptive priveliges the drug dealers in Central America better watch out- they don't know enough to have prescriptive priveliges. Theh didn't go to medical school for 12 years - just 4 or 5 - that is bullshit.
Marie, how much time did YOU spend in schoo? In case you didn't know, PA's DO have prescriptive priveleges. WV is the ONLY state that has such ridiculous limitations on what PA's can write for (no anticoagulation, narcotics limited to 72hrs, etc.) just to name a few. This is all because the WVAPA is run by blooming idiots that can't get their heads out of the BOM's ass long enough to promote their own profession. Not only was the BOM part of what killed that bill this year, the lobbyist for the WVAPA also knocked it down - simply because he didn't think of it first. Also 100,000 a year is only an average salary for a PA in a specialty like pain management- especially when you consider the volume of patients that they cared for between the two of them. When YOU can make it through that "only 4 or 5 years" of PA school then you can talk about bullshit.
xyz123

United States

#18 Dec 5, 2009
suffering in silence wrote:
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The lawyers are filing a medical malpractice lawsuit..
Any lawsuits should be filed against Dr. Cecil Graham for his failures as adminstrator that led to his patients being dropped like hot potatoes during their time of need.
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alan and liz

United States

#20 Dec 5, 2009
Our dad went to Know Pain for 9 years. Dr Shah was a great do c (he was there before Rodriguez) and he did injections on dad's neck. Rodriguez just pushed pills - if you wanted it he would write it and after the numbing wore off the injections Rodriguez gave didn't work - he transferred to UVA this summer and is getting his injections again. they used to have really good nurses too and it went way downhill. The only one worth anything that was there this summer was Lesley - she was very sweetand professional. The medical staff bec ame a joke there, and that was the problem. Although it was good to go and not see half the medical staff in the parking lot smoking.
allie

United States

#21 Dec 5, 2009
WOW wrote:
Didn't Dr. Graham get into some problems with Raleigh General when he was doing the anathesiology there. Some Dr.s didn't get paid and at least one had just moved to Beckley and ended up without a job. It is just too bad when people like Dr. Graham who have such potential to help so many people make such poor decisions that it affects not only him but many other people in the process.
Just a question? A lawsuit against who and for what? Isn't the clinic a business and businesses do freguently close?
I worked at Raleigh General (at BARH now) and when Lifepoint bought the hospital they used a national anesthesia group and the contract was lost at the hospital - not one doc or nurse didn't get their paycheck. Dr Graham's wife (now ex) would not live in WV - she hated it here, and he tried to work one week a month here and go back there and that probably had something to do with it. Turned out she was cheating on him all the time. No one liked her- she was from California and was real crazy- he didn't know he was going to lose the contract and he couldn't help the doctor moving here for a job and the doc (I know who you're talking about) definitely got paid. Don't talk when you don't know the truth.

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