Skateboarder Killed In Collision

[an advocate]

AFather wrote:

Ummm, there's a difference between a raccoon or a deer and a human being. If your going to hit a raccoon, sometimes its better to just hit it so you don't kill yourself or hit on coming traffic. A human being requires a little more thought. Understood that this child should have been supervised at this time of night but it is the troopers JOB to be a professional at what he does, that includes driving. Either way, he should be charged with involuntary vehicular manslaughter. SP enforce our laws, at what they claim "a high standard" and should be held to the same standard when a wrong has been done, accident or not. I feel for everyone involved.

Obviously you DO NOT feel for everyone involved if that is your comment. Put yourself in the police officer's shoes, or better yet, what if that was you driving down the road in your normal car and didn't even see this child until you had
already hit him? don't you think that living with that mistake knowing what the childs family is feeling FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE would be punishment enough? or how about walking down the street and knowing that people are looking at you thinking "isn't that the guy who killed that kid?" It is certainly difficult to be on either side of this terrible incident, but, justice is not being served if this officer is charged with a crime when one was not committed. But I guess you have never made a mistake right?

[beckleydirt]

Amother wrote:

I just want to know if anyone out there other than me thinks this is a crime?

i just thoght it was funny that the troopers repeatedly told the boys dad "it was nobodys fault" right after they told him that an officer killed his child.

i know if i hit a kid on the road @ midnight , Id be in the SRJ until my day in court ! It is disgusting that officers are immune from the laws that they swear to uphold

[Thinking]

beckleydirt wrote:

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i just thoght it was funny that the troopers repeatedly told the boys dad "it was nobodys fault" right after they told him that an officer killed his child.
i know if i hit a kid on the road @ midnight , Id be in the SRJ until my day in court ! It is disgusting that officers are immune from the laws that they swear to uphold

I truly believe the police officer did not see the boy. In fact his own brother said the boy was bent over to pick up his skate board in the road.
"YES" Maybe if it was you who had been in the accident ,and driving you would be in the SRJ ,because of your "attitude "on this subject along with your comments on the other forums .Sure hope you stop ,and think before you open your mouth !!!!!!!!!!

[Jacque]

Even though I have friends who are in Law enforcement, I am not one to come to the defense of a cop. Especially from around Beckley, but I know from experience it is real easy to sit back and judge someone, and say what you would or would not do. Fact is you will never know exactly what happened; even the cop probably is still running it through his mind.
And you have no idea what you would do in the same situation until you are there. So don't say you would take a chance with your own life to keep from doing something to someone. Sure you would like to think and say you would, but self survival kicks in, and you can't always overcome it. So give the cop a break. If you want to think what you would do; think about what he is going through.
This is a bad thing for all involved, but place the blame where it should be. DEAR OLD MOM

[Thinking]

Jacque wrote:

Even though I have friends who are in Law enforcement, I am not one to come to the defense of a cop. Especially from around Beckley, but I know from experience it is real easy to sit back and judge someone, and say what you would or would not do. Fact is you will never know exactly what happened; even the cop probably is still running it through his mind.
And you have no idea what you would do in the same situation until you are there. So don't say you would take a chance with your own life to keep from doing something to someone. Sure you would like to think and say you would, but self survival kicks in, and you can't always overcome it. So give the cop a break. If you want to think what you would do; think about what he is going through.
This is a bad thing for all involved, but place the blame where it should be. DEAR OLD MOM

I fully agree with your comment. It is very sad for all involved , but I sure could not like to be in the mothers shoes. Sad to give up ypur own kids. Maybe they were better off with out her. WHO KNOWS ?????????

[Ques]

YOUR STUPID wrote:

<quoted text>You know it is people like you that have no perception of reality. You are the kind that will be the first to point the finger but when your wrong you will blend in to the background. I am someone who has first hand knowledge of this accident and investigation. The child was caught on Wal Mart video playing in traffic long before the accident. Now with that said the trooper never seen the child coming because it was dark and the child was wearing dark clothes and the child struck the vehicle on the very front corner. Morons like you should keep your mouth shut until you know all the facts. Trooper Stone is a great guy and you have no right degrading him on this site. If you think you can do such a better job then apply, pass the physical then the physical agility test, then the psych. eval. and then the interview board and if you pass all that. then spend your time in the academy. It is funny how jealousy will drive people to say and do the things they do. I will say this, I would never wish such a terriable thing on my worst enemy. So may god help you if you would ever strike another human with a vehicle and you should have to eat your malicious words.

Finally... some common sense

[juicepole]

In 1968 my Grandmother was struck and killed right above where the accident happened. I was 2 when this happened. I have been told bits and pieces of what happened. She had one more step to go before she was off the road but yet the driver who hit her, wouldnt stop. I have heard so many stories about this since people found out who my Grandmother was. Ive even heard it was a police chiefs wife who was drunk. Who knows. All I know is, Ive never had the chance to know my Grandmother due to this tragedy. This was never fully investigated neither. My Grandmothers glasses are still missing after all these years. They think they were caught on the fender. They found her purse not far from her. My Grandmother was going home from evening worship.
So I do know how this family feels. I feel for this family. I worked with the childs Aunt and Grandfather. The State Trooper will have to live with this forever. I feel for him also. Just a sad day for all who knew everybody involved.

[beckleydirt]

Jacque wrote:

Even though I have friends who are in Law enforcement, I am not one to come to the defense of a cop. Especially from around Beckley, but I know from experience it is real easy to sit back and judge someone, and say what you would or would not do. Fact is you will never know exactly what happened; even the cop probably is still running it through his mind.
And you have no idea what you would do in the same situation until you are there. So don't say you would take a chance with your own life to keep from doing something to someone. Sure you would like to think and say you would, but self survival kicks in, and you can't always overcome it. So give the cop a break. If you want to think what you would do; think about what he is going through.
This is a bad thing for all involved, but place the blame where it should be. DEAR OLD MOM

LAST TIME I CHECKED I LIVE IN AMERICA AND AM ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS, TRY TO BE INFORMED, AND HAVE MY OWN OPINION.ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MY TAX DOLLARS AND MY PUBLIC SERVANTS !
BOY YOU'D LOVE TO LOCK ME UP WOULDN'T YA ?,SHUT ME UP? WE HAVE A WORD FOR THAT , IT'S CALLED OPPRESSION! AND NEO-NAZI ISN'T TOO FAR BEHIND !

[Amy]

Why don't you people let this story rest? All parties involved have been through enough and will go through it the rest of their lives and they don't need our opinions about the situation. They have enough to deal with without any of us putting in our two cents where it doesn't belong. Instead of blowing this hot air and saying who is right and who is wrong, why don't we each take time out to say a pray for EVERYONE involved. You never know when the shoe is going to be on the other foot.

[Ralph Marlow]

When I was young I had to be in at 10 pm. Now days kids get 4 or 5 hours sleep at night and try to go to school half asleep. Did someone say this happened at midnight? That would be the last thing I would be expecting to dart out in the road at that time of night. That said , it wouldn't surprise me if the police car was going a bit fast. Who is going to make them slow down? Bottom line is blame could be on both sides. I am sure the mother is grieving and the policemans worst nightmare. Nobody is a winner here.

[Ralph Marlow]

I don't remember where I got this idea, but I thought there was a law, written or unwritten, I don't know, that when there was a fatality, a citation was in order, and if no one was hurt, no citations are given. Maybe policemen are exenpt. perhaps this policy only applies when they see fit. People have been given citations no matter how bad they felt.

[Jacque]

beckleydirt wrote:

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LAST TIME I CHECKED I LIVE IN AMERICA AND AM ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS, TRY TO BE INFORMED, AND HAVE MY OWN OPINION.ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MY TAX DOLLARS AND MY PUBLIC SERVANTS !
BOY YOU'D LOVE TO LOCK ME UP WOULDN'T YA ?,SHUT ME UP? WE HAVE A WORD FOR THAT , IT'S CALLED OPPRESSION! AND NEO-NAZI ISN'T TOO FAR BEHIND !

Talk about going off the deep end. What is your problem cupcake? not feeling pretty anymore? I never even implied anyone not express their opinion. I was expressing mine! Sounds like you are the one who has the problem. Another opinion- seek some help while there is time. I have been told your condition only gets worse.

[Phil Putnam]

beckleydirt wrote:

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LAST TIME I CHECKED I LIVE IN AMERICA AND AM ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS, TRY TO BE INFORMED, AND HAVE MY OWN OPINION.ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MY TAX DOLLARS AND MY PUBLIC SERVANTS !
BOY YOU'D LOVE TO LOCK ME UP WOULDN'T YA ?,SHUT ME UP? WE HAVE A WORD FOR THAT , IT'S CALLED OPPRESSION! AND NEO-NAZI ISN'T TOO FAR BEHIND !

We also have a word for the type of person you are. It is called ignorant a** hole.

[ASS_U_ME is what you get]

Ralph Marlow wrote:

I don't remember where I got this idea, but I thought there was a law, written or unwritten, I don't know, that when there was a fatality, a citation was in order, and if no one was hurt, no citations are given. Maybe policemen are exenpt. perhaps this policy only applies when they see fit. People have been given citations no matter how bad they felt.

As a police officer here my suggestion to you is for you to be best informed, my suggestion to you is call and ask Larry Frail or Kristen Keller that question and see what kind of answer you get.

[AFather]

Ralph Marlow wrote:

I don't remember where I got this idea, but I thought there was a law, written or unwritten, I don't know, that when there was a fatality, a citation was in order, and if no one was hurt, no citations are given. Maybe policemen are exenpt. perhaps this policy only applies when they see fit. People have been given citations no matter how bad they felt.

Bingo!!! That was the message I was trying to convey to begin with. A civilian would be charged and cited No Questions Asked!! I have had friends that were involved in a wreck, conditions were wet, car would not stop and hit another car. They were cited with failure to maintain control even though the real problem were the wet conditions.

The other point I was trying to make was that we pay outrageous taxes to support the training that the officers receive to avoid these kind of situations. Because of this, they should be held to a higher standard. Only makes logical sense. In the court of law, feeling bad about something does not replace the facts.

[AFather]

YOUR STUPID wrote:

<quoted text>You know it is people like you that have no perception of reality. You are the kind that will be the first to point the finger but when your wrong you will blend in to the background. I am someone who has first hand knowledge of this accident and investigation. The child was caught on Wal Mart video playing in traffic long before the accident. Now with that said the trooper never seen the child coming because it was dark and the child was wearing dark clothes and the child struck the vehicle on the very front corner. Morons like you should keep your mouth shut until you know all the facts. Trooper Stone is a great guy and you have no right degrading him on this site. If you think you can do such a better job then apply, pass the physical then the physical agility test, then the psych. eval. and then the interview board and if you pass all that. then spend your time in the academy. It is funny how jealousy will drive people to say and do the things they do. I will say this, I would never wish such a terriable thing on my worst enemy. So may god help you if you would ever strike another human with a vehicle and you should have to eat your malicious words.

Wow, with first hand knowledge of the investigation, I guess you simply forgot to mention that the child was "bending over in the road to pick up his toy". Not running through the street, not shooting across the intersection on his skateboard, but standing still, in the road bending over to pick something up.

I never said I could do a better job. I wouldn't want that job in the first place simply because I don't think its worth the little amount of compensation a trooper is given to put his/her life on the line. I simply said that they should be held to a higher standard than the rest of the public because of the training they receive aimed at preventing these kind of situations.

As for calling me a moron and stupid??? Why the name calling, I never called you anything. I never said anything about you to take it to a personal level. This is just my perception of what happened. Everyone has different minds that allow us all to evaluate situations from a different perspective. Weather my perception is right or wrong, its still my perception.

All I have to say is "Takes one to know one".

[AFather]

an advocate wrote:

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Obviously you DO NOT feel for everyone involved if that is your comment. Put yourself in the police officer's shoes, or better yet, what if that was you driving down the road in your normal car and didn't even see this child until you had
already hit him? don't you think that living with that mistake knowing what the childs family is feeling FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE would be punishment enough? or how about walking down the street and knowing that people are looking at you thinking "isn't that the guy who killed that kid?" It is certainly difficult to be on either side of this terrible incident, but, justice is not being served if this officer is charged with a crime when one was not committed. But I guess you have never made a mistake right?

Geezee, You know how I feel? You know that I have never made a mistake? Maybe you should look up Deon Warwick and see if you two can get the Psychic Friends Network back up.

Any other civilian would have been at least charged with failure to maintain control.

Wonder where I can get one of those police officer law immunization shots?

[NO THANKS]

Amy wrote:

Why don't you people let this story rest? All parties involved have been through enough and will go through it the rest of their lives and they don't need our opinions about the situation. They have enough to deal with without any of us putting in our two cents where it doesn't belong. Instead of blowing this hot air and saying who is right and who is wrong, why don't we each take time out to say a pray for EVERYONE involved. You never know when the shoe is going to be on the other foot.

I really agree with this comment! We need to do as Amy suggest,and pray for all involved . The officer ,and the boys family . Only God knows it could have been one of us driving or our child." God Bless All"