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Unreal

Oak Hill, WV

#21 Nov 4, 2012
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-most-overpric...

Lets get rid of this debate. Top 5 overpriced cars and 3 are chevy, 1 is ford and 1 mistsubishi. they overprice to make up for slow times and a downed economy. an impala is #1 at 5,200 more on the msrp than it is worth. i dont mind paying for what i am getting but a smart buyer and one that cares about the economy and their family will not pay for what they are not getting. top five best buys on the market and 3 are toyota, 1 is kia, and 1 is a nissan. It is not about window stickers. It is about getting the lowest difference between your trade in and the car you are buying. That is how you make a good business decision. The markups are on all vehicles. You have to know the invoice price and see who gets you the closest. It is that easy. I have nothing else to say on the issue but please be smart. Our economy is broke because people are willing to be ripped off and pay more than a product is worth. They pay for a Lexus and get a busted out chevy, ford, or gm. Quit sidetracking people on how they put it on the window and give them the truth. Every vehicle has an award for something JD power they all do. Everyone has a recall. Chevy does too. Overpriced is a crime committed on poor areas like this. Just read the facts.
unreal is unreal

Beckley, WV

#22 Nov 4, 2012
I said you can't go by MSRP found online because of the equipment involved. Some features are standard. Some cost extra. Why is that so hard to understand?

I sold cars for 10+ years before going into a franchise opportunity. The mark-up is not in the new car market. It is in used cars. There is much more room to dicker over prices on a used car. There are two stickers in every new vehicle. The one with cost from the manufacturer, and the other with dealer prep charges, also called a "bump" sticker.

I love how every joker who has ever bought a car acts like he is smarter than the dealership, and that he knows more about the business. As someone else said, car dealers don't make money by giving away cars at no profit.
Unreal

Oak Hill, WV

#23 Nov 4, 2012
Please, I do not have to sell cars to know business. I am well educated and a business owner. I served our country. Show me a little respect please.

Of course if you have an invoice price and add to it the price increases. The issues is not with add on’s, that is your cover up for the issue. The issue is invoice and msrp. The price of GM, Ford, and Chevy are 5,000 more than the cost of their cars and 10,000 on the MSPR. The price of Toyota, Nissan, and Honda is literally within 1,200. It is easy really. Ford, GM, and Chevy do this so they can take a 1000 of MSRP and give you 2,000 more than your vehicle is worth and still make 2 – 7000 on each deal and that is not counting the money held back as a dealership. It is basic business. To complain about a 3,000 mark up sticker used at Toyota, Honda, and Nissan which is given to the customer on trade to help them get a loan when their product is 5 – 10000 overpriced is a bit hypocritical.

It is sad that without taking advantage of their own buyers and the American taxpayer, they would right now not even exist. The American people have forever had to fight against white collar criminals who overprice products, underpay their workers, and smile as they live rich. It is the responsibility of American people to make better decisions so that bankruptcy rates decrease. When a person owes more than a car is worth, it is a sign that a dealership has taken advantage of them for not being educated. This is where Chevy, GM, and Ford make their money with invoice being 10,000 less than their selling price. They have to. Their product does not match up. This is why Nascar banned the Toyota engine. They did not want people to realize how poor their vehicles performed and how overpriced they are.

Why do you think they went bankrupt? Bad business. Swiss watches are unbeatable. German knives are unbeatable. No one thinks this is a bad investment. American people must hold the greedy American owners accountable. Too many people file bankruptcy on cars because they have been blistered by an invoice/msrp scam. Smart buyers understand that Toyota, Honda, and Nissan are now manufactured right here in the states and are not taking advantage of the American people. If American owners were taking better care of their own people, they would not be negotiating with other countries for money. They took advantage of their own people and “We the people” must be more responsible with our money. They used the buy American add as a weapon. Its sick. If we don’t take care of our own money, who will? Either make a better product or sell the vehicle a little closer to MSRP. I used to buy American Trucks because my grandfather was a military man but we have both read into it and realize that the owners just don't have America in mind. I cannot support that. American has a new war; the economy. I am willing to help fight it! Top five most overpriced vehicles:

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-most-overpric...

It is that easy!
Unreal

Oak Hill, WV

#24 Nov 4, 2012
One more thing before I put a bow on this present - did you say, "I love how every joker who has bought a car acts like he is smarter than the dealership" ? Sounds like an arrogant, take advantage of people kind of car salesman I used to deal with. Are you saying that the dealer knows best? Does the dealer really know what is best for someone's family? This is exactly what I meant in each of my comments, it is a dirty business and an overpriced business. Be smarter than the dealer lol, read people, buy a vehicle that is priced nearest the invoice price. Even if they sell at invoice, they make money because of kickbacks and dealer hold backs. Matter of fact, they make at least 1,000 when they break even on a deal with is the invoice price. Listen to this guy, 10 years in the business, mocking the buyer, and been moved into a franchise position. Be smarter than the dealer lol, that well educated dealer otherwise you will be driving a car you cannot trade because it is not worth what you paid and will have your credit destroyed when you file bankruptcy. Look up the invoice price. Demand an invoice price and throw the MSRP garbage away. It is that easy. Then again, if you buy Toyota, Honda, or Nissan you get what you pay for and don't have to do so much work. Arrogance kills me. Please protect your money. Spend it wisely.
no money

Huntington, WV

#25 Nov 4, 2012
Unreal wrote:
One more thing before I put a bow on this present - did you say, "I love how every joker who has bought a car acts like he is smarter than the dealership" ? Sounds like an arrogant, take advantage of people kind of car salesman I used to deal with. Are you saying that the dealer knows best? Does the dealer really know what is best for someone's family? This is exactly what I meant in each of my comments, it is a dirty business and an overpriced business. Be smarter than the dealer lol, read people, buy a vehicle that is priced nearest the invoice price. Even if they sell at invoice, they make money because of kickbacks and dealer hold backs. Matter of fact, they make at least 1,000 when they break even on a deal with is the invoice price. Listen to this guy, 10 years in the business, mocking the buyer, and been moved into a franchise position. Be smarter than the dealer lol, that well educated dealer otherwise you will be driving a car you cannot trade because it is not worth what you paid and will have your credit destroyed when you file bankruptcy. Look up the invoice price. Demand an invoice price and throw the MSRP garbage away. It is that easy. Then again, if you buy Toyota, Honda, or Nissan you get what you pay for and don't have to do so much work. Arrogance kills me. Please protect your money. Spend it wisely.
And dont ya love when they tell ya they aint makin no money off of ya now.lol
unreal is unreal

Beckley, WV

#26 Nov 4, 2012
Sounds like you got your butt burned and so you're pissed at all dealeships. You have taken offense to everything I've written, yet you misinterpet everything, too. Do you think it's just possible that auto dealers MIGHT know about their costs?

The fact that you promote buying imports tells me something about you. Don't come back with how the parts, etc., are made here, either. Only a paltry sum remains in the U.S. economy. Guess where the rest goes?

But, since you are an expert, you'd know far more about taxes and politics, too. I'm pretty sure that once your know-it-all ass appears in a dealership, they'd rather you take your business elsewhere. My favorite part was about filing bankruptcy. If you're stupid enough to overextend yourself that much, you get what you deserve. If you're upside-down in a vehicle trade or even a mortgage, that's YOUR fault!!
Unreal

Oak Hill, WV

#27 Nov 4, 2012
no money wrote:
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And dont ya love when they tell ya they aint makin no money off of ya now.lol
Go to any used lot and it is real easy to see that there are far more GMs, Fords, Jeeps, and Chevys than there are toyota, honda, and nissan. Why? Well it is easy, everyone traded out of their rip off and are a little smarter now than they were 10 years ago when Ford, GM, and Chevy made a decent product. I love the new ad chevy has, "The vehicle you want for the price you are willing to pay." There are a few people that will say, "I've always..." well guess what if you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always had. I won't pay those ridiculous prices. I don't care if it is bump sticker, market sticker, msrp sticker or a scratch-and-sniff sticker. If it is worth 15,000 then don't tell me it is worth 25,000. No thank you, I am not a vain spender. I care about my family, my country, and my future. I don't mind them making a living which they can do at invoice. I do mind them ripping of my son, my daughter, or anyone I consider a friend. It is sick. I was glad to see them leave Beckley. I cannot believe they are back and people are willing to buy at that price.

Wasnt it funny where the "Unreal is Unreal" guy acted like a 5,000 markup on a new impala was because of a CD player and sunroof. What did they put it in once it arrived on the lot? It came from the manufacturer that way and in no way does it change the price and no way did it change it 5,000. you gotta be kiddin me. Let me guess they put the lift kit on an HHR and that is why its overpriced. It is easy, invoice is what the car costs to make and sale, MSRP is the rest of the money the dealership winds up with and when they add on it just gets worse. Add it on and then overprice it more. 5000 more on an HHR and impala 10000 - 15000 more than what a Silverado is worth. Oh yea and the invoice price is 10,000 and MSRP is 15,000 but that is not a markup because it is a new car. Lol. Then what is it? Then someone said, it was best to buy used. Used cars have a higher interest rate. You pay more for less on a used. On a used vehicle, you really get blasted. There is nothing to compare the price to. Buy new. Buy Toyota and Nissan. Honda is good too but not near the quality of Toyota and Nissan. Pay 12,000 more when you can get a better quality for less. What a joke!

Oh and the guy that bought a Silverado for 4,000 less than MSRP you are still losing 8,000. Do you really think they are losing when they can do a 10,000 off any fullsize truck later in the year? They make money even at that! Know the invoice price or actual value of your car and their car (or truck). Know the rebates and that my friends is the price you should be receiving. Then again, just buy Toyota and Nissan and rest easy knowing your money has been well spent.
Unreal

Oak Hill, WV

#28 Nov 4, 2012
unreal is unreal wrote:
Sounds like you got your butt burned and so you're pissed at all dealeships. You have taken offense to everything I've written, yet you misinterpet everything, too. Do you think it's just possible that auto dealers MIGHT know about their costs?
The fact that you promote buying imports tells me something about you. Don't come back with how the parts, etc., are made here, either. Only a paltry sum remains in the U.S. economy. Guess where the rest goes?
But, since you are an expert, you'd know far more about taxes and politics, too. I'm pretty sure that once your know-it-all ass appears in a dealership, they'd rather you take your business elsewhere. My favorite part was about filing bankruptcy. If you're stupid enough to overextend yourself that much, you get what you deserve. If you're upside-down in a vehicle trade or even a mortgage, that's YOUR fault!!
Couldn't have said it better myself. I got burned. I promised it would not happen again. I was young and bought into the commercials. I now have a business degree and had plenty of classes in accounting. I learned how to be a better buyer. I learned. It is as you have said, "If you are upside-down in a vehicle trade or even a mortgage, that's YOUR fault!!!" I learned. I thought getting 2,000 more than what Kelly Blue Book gave me for my trade and 1,000 off MSRP was a steal. I didn't know then and do know now. I hate that I made that mistake and refuse to do it again and want to show the truth of the market to all others. I tell everyone just what i'm telling here. The Ford, Chevy, and GM products are way way way overpriced as a means of deceiving people. As an American, it is disappointing. As a grandson of a Marine and a proud soldier myself it is sad that the American owners have placed their own people in such a mess. You are 100% right, I had to take responsibility and make better decisions.
someone who really knows

Corinth, MS

#29 Nov 6, 2012
If the user Unreal knew just half as much as you thought you knew then you may be qualified to voice your un-educated opinions on here. I have worked at many dealerships over the years including foreign and domestic, the markup on every single vehicle with the exception of the higher line models are at max 1/3 of the 6000 you're throwing out, in case you can't calculate that the figure is about 2000 with some domestic models with less than $300.00 markups. It just amazes me how folks like yourself can hide behind a computer screen and throw out un-truths and try to be self serving by talking trash about things they know absolutely nothing about!! And as far as quality lets look at the facts, the domestic brands typically have a longer warranty than imports and for the record if you would take some of your useless time and research it Toyota is the most recalled manufacture who was also fined millions by our government for covering up recall information. I am an honest person who has been making my living selling vehicles for many years by doing things right, and to have someone like yourself trash talk this industry just shows your lack of character and integrity. As in any industry there are good and bad in the auto industry, but until you've walked in these shoes why don't you discuss something that you may be qualified for that is if there is anything.As far as the original post about cross roads I know several of the folks there and they seem to be very genuine and try to do what is right.
I know a lil

Beckley, WV

#30 Nov 9, 2012
I can also add that Chevy and GM products have a resale value of 18% more than comparables. Everyone should take into consideration Toyota's huge recall record and the fact that Suzuki is ready to file Chapter 11 bankruptcy before hailing the imports!!
T Bas

Beckley, WV

#31 Nov 18, 2012
Unreal wrote:
<quoted text>
Go to any used lot and it is real easy to see that there are far more GMs, Fords, Jeeps, and Chevys than there are toyota, honda, and nissan. Why? Well it is easy, everyone traded out of their rip off and are a little smarter now than they were 10 years ago when Ford, GM, and Chevy made a decent product. I love the new ad chevy has, "The vehicle you want for the price you are willing to pay." There are a few people that will say, "I've always..." well guess what if you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always had. I won't pay those ridiculous prices. I don't care if it is bump sticker, market sticker, msrp sticker or a scratch-and-sniff sticker. If it is worth 15,000 then don't tell me it is worth 25,000. No thank you, I am not a vain spender. I care about my family, my country, and my future. I don't mind them making a living which they can do at invoice. I do mind them ripping of my son, my daughter, or anyone I consider a friend. It is sick. I was glad to see them leave Beckley. I cannot believe they are back and people are willing to buy at that price.
Wasnt it funny where the "Unreal is Unreal" guy acted like a 5,000 markup on a new impala was because of a CD player and sunroof. What did they put it in once it arrived on the lot? It came from the manufacturer that way and in no way does it change the price and no way did it change it 5,000. you gotta be kiddin me. Let me guess they put the lift kit on an HHR and that is why its overpriced. It is easy, invoice is what the car costs to make and sale, MSRP is the rest of the money the dealership winds up with and when they add on it just gets worse. Add it on and then overprice it more. 5000 more on an HHR and impala 10000 - 15000 more than what a Silverado is worth. Oh yea and the invoice price is 10,000 and MSRP is 15,000 but that is not a markup because it is a new car. Lol. Then what is it? Then someone said, it was best to buy used. Used cars have a higher interest rate. You pay more for less on a used. On a used vehicle, you really get blasted. There is nothing to compare the price to. Buy new. Buy Toyota and Nissan. Honda is good too but not near the quality of Toyota and Nissan. Pay 12,000 more when you can get a better quality for less. What a joke!
Oh and the guy that bought a Silverado for 4,000 less than MSRP you are still losing 8,000. Do you really think they are losing when they can do a 10,000 off any fullsize truck later in the year? They make money even at that! Know the invoice price or actual value of your car and their car (or truck). Know the rebates and that my friends is the price you should be receiving. Then again, just buy Toyota and Nissan and rest easy knowing your money has been well spent.
You have no clue how a dealership works. That is all...
For real doe

Beckley, WV

#32 Nov 19, 2012
T Bas wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no clue how a dealership works. That is all...
Amen T... This person couldn't last 1 week...
25 years in car biz

Oak Hill, WV

#33 Nov 25, 2012
you people know so much about the car business you should go sell cars. Any car salesperson that throws you a price when they first meet you and knows nothing about you will never be there to take care of you when you come back. Trust me. Also there are so reasons why you cant through a price at someone....shop bills , repairs done by dent repair people, body shop work etc.....thats why we use computers because there are hundreds of vehicles on the lot all with different scenerios. Also the value of your vehicle is determined by many factors and i assure you can take your trade to 100 dealerships and they will all appraise your trade in within about 300 dollars as they are all in the same car biz people. A good deal isnt always the best price a good salesperson will be there to help you anytime you call and answer and return your calls 3 days or 3 years later....
Would you believe

Beckley, WV

#34 Nov 25, 2012
The crooks are back the lerose brothers least the ones that are out of jail . Heard Tucker's son is part owner wonder how long before he goes to jail like father like son is what I have always heard
Quality

Sophia, WV

#35 Nov 26, 2012
They have been around for years and are good people to deal with
Me too

Sophia, WV

#36 Nov 26, 2012
I have known them for years with other dealerships and have always treated me right
not quite

Beckley, WV

#37 Nov 28, 2012
Neither of the owners of Crossroads Chevrolet have been in jail. They are not brothers. They are father and son. There is no one named Tucker employed there. You are slandering a business and you don't know what you're talking about. I know because I work there. "would you believe"should be very careful about spreading rumors. IP addresses are not that hard to trace.

Everyone I work for is good to me. They are good to our customers, too. If you deal with Crossroads, you'll be treated right.
Really

Beckley, WV

#38 Nov 22, 2014
These people are horrible people to deal with. They don't give a crap about employees, and they sure don't care about customers. They are sleazy, dishonest people. Take your car in for service and see what happens!
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Jim

Beckley, WV

#40 Feb 22, 2016
I bought a car there 3 years ago from Eric Arthur and he was great but I went back to trade and he wasn't there anymore and they had somebody that was very rude if they bring Eric back I would trade again
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Ex Ford Owner

Oak Hill, WV

#42 Feb 23, 2016
Don't even think of going to Midstate Ford in Summersville. They are crooks. Their service manager is a total jerk. I wanted to bash his face is. He is a total puss with a big mouth

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