Dayton leading in vacancy rates

Mar 11, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Dayton Daily News

More than 20 percent of the city's housing units affected, data show. Updated 11:24 PM Thursday, March 10, 2011 Despite Dayton's efforts to tear down abandoned and nuisance properties, it still led the region in both vacancy rate in 2010 and growth in vacancy rate during the last 10 years, according to new census data.

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Julie

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Mar 11, 2011
 
Can I come home now.
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Mar 11, 2011
 
There is something very strange going on in America. Most towns and cities are losing populations. They have many blocks of almost empty homes, many burnt out and stripped. Yet the population increases in other cities due to fleeing citizens to other places are not being seen as they should.

Yet, after much reading of other than US news, it is being made clear that their is a mass exodus of people out of the US and to other countries. In fact Mexico and other foreign papers comment on the influx of people, mostly returnees from the United States.

They can't find jobs, are being evicted from foreclosed homes, and more places are demanding true papers from them to keep work or get social services if any can be found. The sad part about Dayton or Detroit or a thousand other towns and cities is that the populations may not be coming back to fill those empty lotts, homes, and low paying jobs.

A solution to revive dying large cities being proposed is to invoke Health and Safety concerns and cut off all utilities and services to small dying towns. Offer to re-locate all those remaining persons to the big city. They will live, shop, and spend in those cities even if the homes are given away to them.

The alternative is to watch most of the towns and cities slowly die, lose their stores and bus systems and theatres and churches and police and on and on and on. Prophet Atlantis of Olympia, WA
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Mar 12, 2011
 
Prophet_Atlantis wrote:
There is something very strange going on in America. Most towns and cities are losing populations. They have many blocks of almost empty homes, many burnt out and stripped. Yet the population increases in other cities due to fleeing citizens to other places are not being seen as they should.
Yet, after much reading of other than US news, it is being made clear that their is a mass exodus of people out of the US and to other countries. In fact Mexico and other foreign papers comment on the influx of people, mostly returnees from the United States.
They can't find jobs, are being evicted from foreclosed homes, and more places are demanding true papers from them to keep work or get social services if any can be found. The sad part about Dayton or Detroit or a thousand other towns and cities is that the populations may not be coming back to fill those empty lotts, homes, and low paying jobs.
A solution to revive dying large cities being proposed is to invoke Health and Safety concerns and cut off all utilities and services to small dying towns. Offer to re-locate all those remaining persons to the big city. They will live, shop, and spend in those cities even if the homes are given away to them.
The alternative is to watch most of the towns and cities slowly die, lose their stores and bus systems and theatres and churches and police and on and on and on. Prophet Atlantis of Olympia, WA
Are you sure they are going to other countries? How are you sure? It is reported that some other countries may not be suffering the slow meltdown we are; but they're not doing well either.

In sincerely hope this is not the case. In that case we are abandoning the country we SHOULD be fighting for. Don't you find it ironic that other people from some other countries are coming here?
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Mar 12, 2011
 
Also, I do not care for your solution.
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Mar 12, 2011
 
Ohio leaders need to take the state with true nuts. Tell the federal government, as so many other states are doint to shove it. Take off the regulations for business. Stop taxing the crap out of them. THEN you will have businesses start moving back and you will have jobs. THIS is what should have been done. Plus tell the frickin unions to BACK OFF.
Make youur state a right to work state.

Hate to say it, but this advice is almost too late.
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Mar 12, 2011
 
And don't give me this,'it's dead' stuff. I know dang well there is an airforce base there and there at least WAS a technology park.
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Mar 12, 2011
 
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And don't give me this,'it's dead' stuff. I know dang well there is an airforce base there and there at least WAS a technology park.
If you mean WPAFB, it is alive and well but not considered to be in Dayton. What technology park? In Dayton?

I drove through downtown Dayton the other night and thought it looked good....it actually looked real nice and clean. The ballpark has been a huge success so maybe things will turn around for Dayton....but then I read about the Dayton Police and Fire exam being lowered and then I realize Dayton won't succeed because the people who run the city won't allow it.
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Mar 13, 2011
 
evil conservative wrote:
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If you mean WPAFB, it is alive and well but not considered to be in Dayton. What technology park? In Dayton?
I drove through downtown Dayton the other night and thought it looked good....it actually looked real nice and clean. The ballpark has been a huge success so maybe things will turn around for Dayton....but then I read about the Dayton Police and Fire exam being lowered and then I realize Dayton won't succeed because the people who run the city won't allow it.
The technology park I spoke of is not downtown, but on the eastern side nearest Beavercreek. Don't remember the road it's on now, but it occupies where the old state farm area and I THINK the old drive in movie used to be.

I don't see lack of success just because the people of Dayton won't allow an exam bar to be lowered. Don't make the connection on that one. Or do I misunderstand?
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Mar 13, 2011
 
Let me see, what business used to be downtown- there were various restaurants, the old Victory theater, a book store, the Mead building, Metropolitan Life Insurance Company health claims division, a bank just down stairs, various department stores, the county seat. You mean they're all gone?

Thought I read about a tea party meeting in the county seat square a few months back. Of course the really BIG business was Alcoha, Delco, I know NCR moved out.
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Mar 15, 2011
 
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The technology park I spoke of is not downtown, but on the eastern side nearest Beavercreek. Don't remember the road it's on now, but it occupies where the old state farm area and I THINK the old drive in movie used to be.
I don't see lack of success just because the people of Dayton won't allow an exam bar to be lowered. Don't make the connection on that one. Or do I misunderstand?
That's Research Park Blvd.(Patterson Road and County Line Road)
That area is also alive and well and not in Dayton proper. Surrounding areas, Kettering, Beavercreek, Riverside, Fairborn, Huber Heights,Englewood, Vandalia, Centerville, West Carrollton and even Moraine, are doing pretty well. Anything within the city limits of Dayton continues to struggle, although downtown Dayton looks pretty good. A lot of the old business are long gone, Kettering Tower is in foreclosure.

The drive in was called Belmont Drive In. It closed a few years ago.

All of these surrounding communities have their own police departments and do their own testing and training. They are not connected to Dayton and the lowered test scores. These communities are probably more than 90% white and Dayton is now more than 50% black.
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Mar 15, 2011
 
Kettering Tower is the old Winters Tower.
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Let me see, what business used to be downtown- there were various restaurants, the old Victory theater, a book store, the Mead building, Metropolitan Life Insurance Company health claims division, a bank just down stairs, various department stores, the county seat. You mean they're all gone?
Thought I read about a tea party meeting in the county seat square a few months back. Of course the really BIG business was Alcoha, Delco, I know NCR moved out.
The department stores are all gone (Beermans, the Arcade stores, Rikes (Shillitos) There a a couple of small stores that cater to blacks. There are some new buildings downtown but not sure what businesses are in them (Caresource, maybe) All the county and city buildings are still there and have been enlarged and look good. Sinclair College is huge and the ball park was a big success. The Victory theater is still there and pretty popular and also the Schuster Performing Arts Center has been successful.(Second and Main) A lot of banks downtown and the Convention Center is surviving at Fifth and Main. There's an area on Monument St between Main and St. Clair called Riverscape and it is very popular, too. Dayton trys but then will turn around do something stupid like support this exam standard that is turning into a national scandal. They try to accommodate the black community and get nothing back in return.
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Mar 15, 2011
 
There may be some restaurants downtown, but none that I can think of....King Cole and places like that are gone. Flying Pizza is probably still there ...Wympee's recently closed. White Towers are still there. There are some small diners downtown, still. Oregon District bars still doing okay. Wilkies bookstore is gone but the porno places are still there and so is the Stagedoor! DDN moved into one of the NCR Buildings on S. Main with Channel 7. That's the run down on Dayton as far as I know. I left in 2006 and can't get Dayton channels on Dish satellite so I miss a lot of what's going on.
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Mar 16, 2011
 
The Tea Party did have a big rally downtown during the summer. I wasn't there but heard it was very good.

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