No, I am just a questioner. I don't feel the need to repost the statistics everyday!Lurker do you ever have anything besides simple questions that offer nothing to the 2000 plus children in this district that are not getting the education they deserve?
How about a thought or two about the 3/8 of our kids who are being left behind without a thought?
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#23487 Feb 17, 2013
#23488 Feb 17, 2013
Have you no thoughts of your own?
Perhaps you could either verify or provide an alternate reading to children scoring 32% on a test and being deemed Proficient.
2000 plus children in this district are scoring failing grades according to Dr. Malone's definition of grades A-F on our state achievement tests.
Share with us your thoughts on how to reverse this unfortunate happenstance.
#23489 Feb 17, 2013
So why in the world is our school superintendent proposing approval from the board to develop an early childhood center
that "provides a continuum of services based on the developmental needs of young learners?"
Exactly what is "continuum of services" and how much is this going to cost taxpayers, somewhere down the road, when our school superintendent comes to the voters for more money to pay increased salaries and benefits to our union teachers (who are sacrificing themselves to teach)? Can you imagine the distorted emotional manipulation by the union activists?
Why not simplify meeting the special needs of our preschoolers
(which our school outsources to ESC) by sponsoring a conversion school, instead of bringing the early childhood education business into the public schools tent?
The JW building would be a good facility for our special needs school for our little ones; and the K-12 public schools budget would save that $5000 increase in administrative salary for the Clearcreek elementary principal.
#23490 Feb 17, 2013
Approximately 90% of any given Boro grade achieving "Proficient" or above, by hurdling over those OAA minimum cut-off scores that are as low as 32%!
This is how Lurker and his gang define Springboro Schools "Excellence with Distinction"
#23491 Feb 17, 2013
....held back to the rest of the pack?...not enough people?.....or resources?
Why is our district not pursuing conversion schools to address these student's unmet needs?
Why does our school district allow this same group of union/community activists dictate what their insiders want, at the expense of what our students need?
And why is our school superintendent ignoring these "unmet needs" of students; and proposing going into the preschool early development business?
Why not focus on building up resources and people to meet our K-12 students "unmet needs" before bringing the expenses of preschool learning centers into the Tent of taxpayer-funded public schools?
#23492 Feb 17, 2013
Would you like the district to cast aside a rating that the State of Ohio gave it? I think everyone can agree that the scores and system is wrong, but don't cast aside the hard work that some students put into getting our schools that rating. From my understanding, which I'll admit isn't much, the OAA and OGT are comprehensive exams. Both my kids were proficient on the OGT and scored 24 and 27 on the ACT. I'm happy they scored well enough to get into the schools they chose and are doing fine. It's ridiculous that a single test can mean so much to a school.
#23493 Feb 18, 2013
Congrats to you, Boro Mom! You apparently avoided membership to Boro'S 2000 club.
#23494 Feb 18, 2013
I'm more interested in ACT and SAT scores then a rather meaningless test. I talked to my girls and they laughed when I asked if it was difficult. They said they knew they'd pass and didn't really care about the test. It was very frustrating to hear that answer and realizing that they could have done better. I'm guessing more students feel the same way...maybe some kind of scholarships attached to scores could make students interested in trying hard?
#23495 Feb 18, 2013
Scholarships are tied to rigors of coursework, class standing, and ACT and SAT scores.
Reducing the incentive to venture outside the high school campus to a college campus does a disservice to the students and parents when the school downgrades their efforts via grade weighting.
Funny way the high school has of inducing students to participate in a program designed to reduce the cost of higher education while easing our better students into the college environment.
The OAA tests are more about how well your school is performing and identifying deficiencies within the student body. Corrective action is more easily targeted if you have an idea of who knows what.
2000 plus of our children in this school district are by Mr. Malone's definition failing.
I do not take any joy in that fact or number.
#23496 Feb 18, 2013
I hear what you're saying 100%. However IMO in Springboro as well as most other public schools, there's WAY too much emphasis on test-preparation in order for each respective district to gain that much-coveted state recognition of "Excellent". At the same time there's NOT NEARLY enough emphasis being placed to match what they're learning to job demands they'll see in the real world. This is the area especially where many of their peers around the globe are kicking their American counterparts butts.
Take Germany for example..By the time a typical German child reaches his or her senior year (in addition to their regular schoolwork) they've already chosen a vocational field and have taken great strides to master it.
#23497 Feb 18, 2013
How is a college course weighted 15% less than a high school course?
#23498 Feb 18, 2013
Increased spending and smaller class sizes are not predictors of success in the classroom, according to Springboro Board of Education President.
Kelly Kohls said she has become gravely concerned over education in the past 5 years. "I'm driven to change education in this county". Globally, the U.S. is "losing ground" every year to other countries, despite spending the most per student in the world.
Ohio has increased per-student spending, while test scores have remained flat, Kohls said. In addition to spending, she also said smaller class sizes have not proven to be as effective in student performance. Class sizes in the U.S. have decreased, while performance has remained flat. Other countries are averaging class sizes of 30-38 and outperforming the U.S., which averages 23-28 students.
Kohls said school board members are larely to blame, and parents need to have more initiative when it comes to educating their children. Kohls also said a majority of teachers "are great people, are in for the right reasons, but somehow the system is not working for our kids."
The Ohio Graduation Test grades students using a low standard where a student can answer 43% of the questions on math and reading and still receive a "proficient" grade. "I think just raising the bar isn't going to help us," Kohls said. "We scan't even bring the kids to the standards we have. All it's going to mean is that you have a bar that a greater percentage of your students don't make it to. So it's a system failure, that I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel yet."
Kohls said education leaders need to treat education like a business.
Kohls encouraged people to be more involved with the education system, and run for school board. She said schools need help educating both the district employees and the community.
#23499 Feb 18, 2013
Finding ways to methodically advance student achievement should always be everyone’s goal. Implementing academic reforms will, for example, reduce the present need for so many of our students needing to take college remediation courses. This, of course, will immediately translate into money saved for parents whose students attend Ohio’s colleges. And, in order to meet this challenge of higher academic quality, the current school Board of Education and District are, or already have plans to, invest heavily in technology, professional development for teachers, new textbooks, as well as new computers for every teacher, plus much more.
All this being said, there is a lot of work yet to be done to assure you (parents) that we will strive to do more than meet the minimum state requirements. The current Board of Education is dedicated to being advocates for every student striving to push the bar higher than other districts.
Some say there’s no need to change because our district achieved an “excellent with Distinction” rating for our most recent school year. But we live in a world that is dynamic, a world of ever-evolving expectations and realities that require our constant attention. What once was an acceptable level of achievement is now a relic of the past that will ill serve our children and our taxpayers in the future.
As parents, we all desire that our children be provided the best we can afford. We constantly challenge our children with the hope that doing so will help prepare them for the world and better lives than we ourselves enjoy. We are also highly cognizant of the importance of true learning and greatly value education and the promise of what it may bring.
Everyone in the school community has more in common than they have differences. Let us meld that commonality to push forth a better school system than we enjoy today. We owe it to our children. Let us come together to push for real achievement and higher standards that we currently demand.
#23500 Feb 18, 2013
Change is especially important when it comes to
K-12 education. Reformers often appropriately use the term "kids first" when it comes to our educational priorities. Too many times, however, "adults first" is the prevailing philosophy. That has to change, and thanks to Kelly Kohls, it is changing in our Springboro school district.
Springboro's old philosophy was like that of many public school districts: Teachers were given annual "step" raises and administrators received nice salary perks, whether there was money in the district's budget or not. If the district couldn't afford it, voters were expected to approve tax hikes to pay for it all, or accept cuts to student services.
That old "adults first" approach was on full display in 2009, when district officials chose to address their financial woes by eliminating busing for high school students, laying off 30 district employees and raising pay-to-play fees for after school activities.
Not long after that, Kelly Kohls, a mother of five and a former college professor, joined the Springboro school board and a new "children first" philosophy began to emerge.
Kohls' approach of challenging the "business as usual" mindset has proven very effective.
The district now requires employees to contribute more for their health insurance plans. Backdoor bonuses for administrators have been eliminated, annual teacher "step" raises have been frozen, and a variety of spending cuts have been implemented.
Kohls' self-described "kids first" approach has caused a lot of heartburn among Springboro's school establishment. During her tenure on the board, district officials have publicly blamed Kohls for the defeat of a $6 million school levy, the departures of a superintendent, a district treasurer, a school board president and the large turnover in school administrators.
(Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners continue applauding in appreciation and continued support the good work of putting "our kids" first).
Members of the Springboro Education Association - the local teachers union - use public schoool board meetings to excoriate Kohls for opposing teacher pay raises and proposing budget cuts.
Kohls response is that: some people get so entrenched in the old philosophy that it's tough to get them to think whether or not something is going to help the kids.
Voters seem to agree. In November 2011, two additional "fiscal conservatives" were elected and took majority control of the five member school board, with the beginning term January 2012.
Kohls says her approach has been to "ask a lot of question" and to explain the board's spending decisions to the community.
Since January, 2012, the new board has enshrined its "children first" philosophy in a series of 29 goals, which include setting district money aside to help prepare students for the ACT test, among other things.
The board has switched to zero based budgeting, meaning that school budgets will not automatically increase every year. The board is also developing policies that prioritize district spending, to ensure that student-centered spending needs are met before employee benefits and wage increases are considered. Kohls is crafting a point system to determine which employees will receive bonuses from the available funds.....
and this is just the beginning...
Thank you, Mrs. Kohls, Mr. Petroni, Mr. Rigano.
#23501 Feb 18, 2013
Mr. Malone weights an A/P class taken at the high school 1.1 times the percentage earned
Mr. Malone weights a college course taken on a college campus to compute a student's GPA as:
If you had scored thusly at the high school on an A/P class the student would have received the calculation below to compute a student's GPA
How is this fair for the student or the parent looking for ways to reduce the cost of higher education for their children?
#23503 Feb 19, 2013
Get your FACTS straight DOUG! You are a loser! The college courses taken through PSEO AND the grades are NOT Dr. Malone's grades - it is what the STATE mandates. You don't like take it up with them. You are bitching b/c you like to bitch! Get a life!
Blame someone else for your unhappy life!
#23504 Feb 19, 2013
Hey Lisa shove that in your pipe and smoke it
#23505 Feb 19, 2013
I looked in the policy book of this school district and was unable to find anything on weighting of grades. I also looked in the Ohio Revised Code and could discover nothing in relation to weighting of courses and grades.
If you have some resources that document your point, please share them with us all.
#23506 Feb 19, 2013
A nation's choice between spending on military defense and spending on civilian goods has often been posed as "guns versus butter." But understanding the choices of many nations' political leaders might be helped by examining the contrast between their runaway spending on pensions while skimping on military defense.
Huge pensions for retired government workers can be found from small municipalities to national governments on both sides of the Atlantic. There is a reason. For elected officials, pensions are virtually the ideal thing to spend money on, politically speaking. Many kinds of spending of the taxpayers' money win votes from the recipients. But raising taxes to pay for this spending loses votes from the taxpayers. Pensions offer a way out of this dilemma for politicians.
Creating pensions that offer generous retirement benefits wins votes in the present by promising spending in the future. Promises cost nothing in the short run -- and elections are held in the short run, long before the pensions are due.
By contrast, private insurance companies that sell annuities are forced by law to set aside enough assets to cover the cost of the annuities they have promised to pay. But nobody can force the government to do that -- and most governments do not.
This means that it is only a matter of time before pensions are due to be paid and there is not enough money set aside to pay for them. This applies to Social Security and other government pensions here, as well as to all sorts of pensions in other countries overseas.
Eventually, the truth will come out that there is just not enough money in the till to pay what retirees were promised. But eventually can be a long time.
A politician can win quite a few elections between now and eventually -- and be living in comfortable retirement by the time it is somebody else's problem to cope with the impossibility of paying retirees the pensions they were promised.
Inflating the currency and paying pensions in dollars that won't buy as much is just one of the ways for the government to seem to be keeping its promises, while in fact welshing on the deal.
From Dr. Thomas Sowell's column dated 2/19/13
#23507 Feb 19, 2013
Students at Springboro are not challenged. A school that challenges them is what these kids need. The union activists instead of thinking of the kids took community members and whipped them into a frenzy and brought them to a meeting where they shouted and ridiculed our school board for thinking of the kids first. Shame on these Babb and Bowman and Greenberg and Carlisle for doing the bidding if the union and telling people lies that a conversion school would hurt the kids. A conversion school would challenge these kids and they know it they just want the union to run education and a conversion school may not have to be run by the union. School choice is what we need. Let the money follow the kids and let schools compete for their business.
Shame on you people for hurting our kids just to please your friends and peers. You people embarrass this town with your divisive behaviors
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