Libya: What Did Obama know and When Did He Know it

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Social Worker

Dayton, OH

#1 Oct 20, 2012
"Cover-Up: America's slain ambassador in Libya repeatedly sought security which went unheeded, new documents show. The CIA, meanwhile, told Washington within 24 hours that the Benghazi attack was terrorism. So where was our president?

The sorry answer is that it's starting to look as though he and his team knew all along that the attack in Libya was a terrorism from the start.

That hasn't been what he's presented to the public. But instead of owning up to it, the White House has perpetrated the red herring that a old YouTube video depicting Islam in a bad light was the real reason, because calling terrorism terrorism would reveal their their Middle East policy failure."

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/1019...

Since: May 12

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#2 Oct 23, 2012
In an opinion piece for The Hill, Williams offered three "corrections" for what he describes as "deliberate misinformation" from Republicans (and their conservative media mouthpieces) about the Benghazi attack.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/10/22/delib...

In a blow to his own network, Fox News host Juan Williams debunked false narratives that Fox News has frequently pushed since the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

In an opinion piece for The Hill, Williams offered three "corrections" for what he describes as "deliberate misinformation" from Republicans (and their conservative media mouthpieces) about the Benghazi attack.

Misinformation #1: "U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice lied to the American people in the days after the attack" when she suggested that a viral anti-Islam video sparked violence and wide-spread protests. Fox News has repeatedly pushed this narrative to make it seem like the administration was deliberately misleading the American people.

Correction: Williams debunked this false narrative, pointing to the "simple fact" that James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence, "confirmed that Rice told the truth in describing the assessment of the intelligence community at the time of her remarks." Williams went on to explain that CIA Director David Petraeus briefed the House Intelligence Committee with the same intel Rice used, as did Undersecretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy in testimony before Congress earlier in October. Furthermore, as Media Matters has previously exposed, Williams noted that Rice "stressed that there was an ongoing investigation where conclusions were subject to change." Indeed, Rice appeared on all major networks and repeatedly stressed that there was an ongoing investigation into the attacks.

Misinformation #2: "[R]equests for extra security in Benghazi were denied by the administration," coupled with the suggestion that the "attack would have been stopped, and the ambassador still alive, if the requests had been granted." Fox News pushed this myth on multiple occasions.

Correction: Williams pointed out that requests for extra security were focused on the embassy in Tripoli, not Benghazi, and State Department officials believe that even if the requests had been granted, they would likely not have changed what happened in Benghazi because the consulate would have been ill-equipped to respond to such a large-scale assault (again echoing a previous report by Media Matters):

It is being charged that requests for extra security in Benghazi were denied by the administration.

The suggestion is that the attack would have been stopped, and the ambassador still alive, if the requests had been granted.

But at a hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee this month, Charlene Lamb, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and head of the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, testified that the request was for added security in Tripoli, the capital of Libya, and not Benghazi.

The added manpower would have been based 400 miles away from the violence.

In addition, U.S. security officials report more guards could not have repelled heavy weapons used by the attackers.

Since: May 12

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#3 Oct 23, 2012
Misinformation #3: "[T]he attack on Benghazi is evidence that al Qaeda is resurgent." Fox News has pushed this myth multiple times, suggesting on October 11 that one of the reasons for violence toward U.S. officials overseas is a "resurgence of Al Qaeda attacks" in the Middle East and North Africa. In another segment on October 12, notorious warmonger John Bolton suggested that the Libya consulate attack shows a "resurgence of Al Qaeda" and "evidence that the War on Terrorism is still very much with us."

Correction: Williams explained that the Obama administration has successfully diminished Al Qaeda, including the removal of leader Osama bin Laden, with targeted drone strikes and anti-terror policies:

The reality is that missions authorized by the Obama administration have killed the top commanders of the terrorist group, including bin Laden.

In addition, President Obama's drone strikes targeting al Qaeda members have decimated the remaining members of the group.

Tommy Vietor, a National Secretary Council spokesman, explains the impact.

"Our assessment that we have decimated al Qaeda leadership is unchanged. Dozens of their senior leadership have been taken off the battlefield as a result of the president's anti-terror policies," Vietor said.

"We know affiliates like al Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula will seek to target us and that's why we go after them relentlessly."

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#4 Oct 23, 2012
In a blow to his own network, Fox News host Juan Williams debunked false narratives that Fox News has frequently pushed since the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

In an opinion piece for The Hill, Williams offered three "corrections" for what he describes as "deliberate misinformation" from Republicans (and their conservative media mouthpieces) about the Benghazi attack.

Misinformation #1: "U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice lied to the American people in the days after the attack" when she suggested that a viral anti-Islam video sparked violence and wide-spread protests. Fox News has repeatedly pushed this narrative to make it seem like the administration was deliberately misleading the American people.

Correction: Williams debunked this false narrative, pointing to the "simple fact" that James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence, "confirmed that Rice told the truth in describing the assessment of the intelligence community at the time of her remarks." Williams went on to explain that CIA Director David Petraeus briefed the House Intelligence Committee with the same intel Rice used, as did Undersecretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy in testimony before Congress earlier in October. Furthermore, as Media Matters has previously exposed, Williams noted that Rice "stressed that there was an ongoing investigation where conclusions were subject to change." Indeed, Rice appeared on all major networks and repeatedly stressed that there was an ongoing investigation into the attacks.

Misinformation #2: "[R]equests for extra security in Benghazi were denied by the administration," coupled with the suggestion that the "attack would have been stopped, and the ambassador still alive, if the requests had been granted." Fox News pushed this myth on multiple occasions.

Correction: Williams pointed out that requests for extra security were focused on the embassy in Tripoli, not Benghazi, and State Department officials believe that even if the requests had been granted, they would likely not have changed what happened in Benghazi because the consulate would have been ill-equipped to respond to such a large-scale assault (again echoing a previous report by Media Matters):

It is being charged that requests for extra security in Benghazi were denied by the administration.

The suggestion is that the attack would have been stopped, and the ambassador still alive, if the requests had been granted.

But at a hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee this month, Charlene Lamb, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and head of the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, testified that the request was for added security in Tripoli, the capital of Libya, and not Benghazi.

The added manpower would have been based 400 miles away from the violence.

In addition, U.S. security officials report more guards could not have repelled heavy weapons used by the attackers.
Romney Voter

Dayton, OH

#5 Oct 23, 2012
And here you have the official Obama narrative; the cover Obama's backside spin!

In fact, the state dept. was listening in on phone calls from the consulate while the attack was underway; they knew it was a terrorist attack.
Furthermore, they could have sent aid even then (Navy missiles) and didn't. Meanwhile Obama went to bed because he had a big fundraising party in Vegas the next day!
Stevens had been begging for increased security for months and Obama ignored him. Britain on the other hand sent it's personnel home for their own safety!

Media Matters is a George Soros owned and guided uber liberal front group. The three above posts are not the truth, they are CYA on Obama's behalf because the voters know he has blown it. He is directly responsible for the deaths of four good men.
"Where did the jihadis get the guns they used on our consulate personnel? From us, of course.
Even more specifically, from the Obama regimes "Fast and Furious" gun running to all of the middle eastern Islamist rebels.
Obama frankly is helping the muslim brotherhood to overthrow the moderate governments of Egypt, Libya, and Syria, by arming them."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/ ...
Romnesia

Loveland, OH

#6 Oct 23, 2012
Wow, conservatives keep using Benghazi for the Romney campaign! Sick!
Social Worker

Dayton, OH

#7 Oct 23, 2012
Romnesia wrote:
Wow, conservatives keep using Benghazi for the Romney campaign! Sick!
Benghazi is the worst scandal in years, including Watergate.

NO ONE DIED DURING THE WATERGATE BREAK IN. Or the cover up.

But Benghazi killed four Americans. They didn't need to die, but they did because Obama and Hillary Clinton turned their backs on them! The ambassador pleaded for increased security. In fact, the security budget had 2 BILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE. A contingent of Marines would have been fully funded. The British were so alarmed by the increasing threat that they sent their people home!
Obama blew it. He went to a fund raiser instead.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/ ...
African American

Richmond, KY

#8 Oct 23, 2012
I can tell you this. That could have been my son killed in that attack. And what would I have got to explain why he died? Some fool in California and a stupid video???

How about just the damn truth? Is that really too much for us to ask for Obama?

They ran their flappers and said Romney was talking trash because he was talking the same day it happened. So you tell me that Romney and his crew have that much a head start over Obama and Hillary? Really?? Everyone knew when he was crying video in front of the world that you gotta be a fool not to know what happened. Those crazy's struck again.

You said you was gonna change things Obama? All you changed is peoples unemployment status and made several millionaires handing out all that cash to everyone but the people that needed it.

Seriously, name me one damn person you know that got any help? None???? Not a single one????? Well people that 17 trillion dollars went somewhere!

Think about this Dayton. It would take less money than that to give ever single person in Dayton a Million dollars each. In fact that same amount that Obama gave away would have given every person in Dayton over 8 Million dollars each. How much did you get? Really, tell me, cause No one I know got a cent.
African American

Richmond, KY

#9 Oct 23, 2012
Damn I am glad I posted my feelings. Sis, you are ok, I like this place.

For the first time in my adult life, I am proud. Naw, jus had to add that.
Mr Spock

Dayton, OH

#10 Oct 23, 2012
African American wrote:
I can tell you this. That could have been my son killed in that attack. And what would I have got to explain why he died? Some fool in California and a stupid video???
How about just the damn truth? Is that really too much for us to ask for Obama?
They ran their flappers and said Romney was talking trash because he was talking the same day it happened. So you tell me that Romney and his crew have that much a head start over Obama and Hillary? Really?? Everyone knew when he was crying video in front of the world that you gotta be a fool not to know what happened. Those crazy's struck again.
You said you was gonna change things Obama? All you changed is peoples unemployment status and made several millionaires handing out all that cash to everyone but the people that needed it.
Seriously, name me one damn person you know that got any help? None???? Not a single one????? Well people that 17 trillion dollars went somewhere!
Think about this Dayton. It would take less money than that to give ever single person in Dayton a Million dollars each. In fact that same amount that Obama gave away would have given every person in Dayton over 8 Million dollars each. How much did you get? Really, tell me, cause No one I know got a cent.
The mother of one of the slain men has been begging the Obama regine to tell her the truth about what happened to her son. To date she has been given nothing but promises and that cockamamie video story. Obama doesn't dare tell this woman the truth. He lied and four men died. The entire regime is involved in this coverup. Their actions are treasonous. They have been arming the Muslim brotherhood with guns from the US. In fact, in the past year the Obama regime has purchesed 750 million rounds of ammunition through various agencies that do not need or use firearms.

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Romnesia

Loveland, OH

#11 Oct 23, 2012
SOCIAL PLAYING THE NAME GAME wrote:
<quoted text>
The mother of one of the slain men has been begging the Obama regine to tell her the truth about what happened to her son. To date she has been given nothing but promises and that cockamamie video story. Obama doesn't dare tell this woman the truth. He lied and four men died. The entire regime is involved in this coverup. Their actions are treasonous. They have been arming the Muslim brotherhood with guns from the US. In fact, in the past year the Obama regime has purchesed 750 million rounds of ammunition through various agencies that do not need or use firearms.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/dhs-to-purchase-a...
You really think that many people post on Topix?

All these Dayton IP locations are you. You might be fooling Leon(who is an idiot like you), but you aren't fooling anyone else.
Fire Obama

Williamson, WV

#12 Oct 27, 2012
Romnesia wrote:
Wow, conservatives keep using Benghazi for the Romney campaign! Sick!
If it were your Child I doubt you would be saying this.
PLEASE people when you go to the POLL to VOTE, In REMEMBRANCE of the Bengazhi attack in Libya, the four dead heroes with grieving parents , also the Fast and Furious, and Fort Hood. Please DO not let our young men and women be forgotten.
VOTE for ROMNEY.
Social Worker

Dayton, OH

#13 Oct 27, 2012
Fire Obama wrote:
<quoted text> If it were your Child I doubt you would be saying this.
PLEASE people when you go to the POLL to VOTE, In REMEMBRANCE of the Bengazhi attack in Libya, the four dead heroes with grieving parents , also the Fast and Furious, and Fort Hood. Please DO not let our young men and women be forgotten.
VOTE for ROMNEY.
Very, very well said! Benghazi is proof that Barack Obama is an uncaring jerk, without a clue.
OBAMA 2012

West Mifflin, PA

#14 Oct 28, 2012
Fire Obama wrote:
<quoted text> If it were your Child I doubt you would be saying this.
PLEASE people when you go to the POLL to VOTE, In REMEMBRANCE of the Bengazhi attack in Libya, the four dead heroes with grieving parents , also the Fast and Furious, and Fort Hood. Please DO not let our young men and women be forgotten.
VOTE for ROMNEY.
Im going to the polls for Obama ......the other party let 9/11 happen with the bombings of the twin towers and pentagon and have 3000+ dead on Bush/Cheney war crime family's watch. Going into 2 unpaid useless un winnable wars that killed over 4000 soldiers that we are still paying for.
The Republicans are a Nazi no nothing party that has jacked off Obama from day 1.
Obama 2012!!!!!!

yeahhh babyy!!
Social Worker

Dayton, OH

#15 Oct 28, 2012
OBAMA 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>Im going to the polls for Obama ......the other party let 9/11 happen with the bombings of the twin towers and pentagon and have 3000+ dead on Bush/Cheney war crime family's watch. Going into 2 unpaid useless un winnable wars that killed over 4000 soldiers that we are still paying for.
The Republicans are a Nazi no nothing party that has jacked off Obama from day 1.
Obama 2012!!!!!!
yeahhh babyy!!
Liberals are either remarkably ignorant or liars, or more likely both, as is this poster.
Dr No

AOL

#16 Nov 2, 2012
Why did Obama allow the Americans to be killed in Benghazi, Libya Embassy?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/why_ob...

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